So in your world non-human animals are only eligible for life and dignity if they're endangered? Do you consider killing animals an act of harvesting a resource, and if the resource isn't running out it's all good?
>> ^TheFreak:
The Japanese are catching Minke whales in Antarctica. This whale is nowhere near endangered by anyone's estimation.

Having to explain myself like this is annoying. The "still legal" part bothered me because it suggests the existence of globally enforceable law (sure there are treaties, but countries walk away from treaties all the time, or ignore judgments against them). I was looking for clarification from the original poster regarding respecting national sovereignty verses acting for the "greater good".

The recent murder of an El Monte (California) school administrator in Mexico has stirred some local "we [the US] gotta do something" sentiments. I want to ask the people quoted in the local paper what (or if) they think about sovereignty and jurisdiction.

>> ^aspartam:
Than if the laws are local, they should only whale locally! They are way out of their waters when they kill them for research, of course. Let me ask you a question: What do you think happens when you wipe out the top of the food chain? Good things or bad things happen.
>> ^Hawkinson:
>> ^Mcboinkens:
How is whaling still legal? This is sickening.

Because the Japanese want to whale. Laws are local. Are you suggesting japan sovereignty should be trumped by foreign moral outrage?

>> ^aspartam:
Hey jackass, did you watch The Cove yet? Do it before you make yourself look any dumber than you already have.
>> ^westy:
[...] Fact is the whalers are doing this for a living and its been in there culture for a long time



Instead of calling sum one a dumass why don't you just provide something that disproves what sum one says, surly you reolise when you call most people a jackass that they are going to pay less attention to what you put and be less inclined to believe what you say.
and no haven't seen that film yet , but i have been meaning to watch it.


If you link me to something that proves that the whalers r not doing it for a living then ill change what i think . I know that the the majority of whale meet is used for BS medicen and stuipd shit , im not infavor of hunting whales but at the same time you have to appreciate that our culture dose equally retarded shit and that sending boats out to annoy people is probably not the most constructive method of stopping whaling from happening.

for example in the uk people have protested fox hunting for fookin decades. I Evan had sum one in my family that used to do stuff to try and make the dogs lose the trail . although it can be satisfying to have an effect in that one instance, on the global scheem of things its pointless , only when the government policy in the uk changed and it became illegal to do real fox hunting has it really stopped. granted for the 10 or so years it took to ban it shit loads of foxes died in shitty ways , but at least now almost non will die.

Than if the laws are local, they should only whale locally! They are way out of their waters when they kill them for research, of course. Let me ask you a question: What do you think happens when you wipe out the top of the food chain? Good things or bad things happen.

>> ^Hawkinson:
>> ^Mcboinkens:
How is whaling still legal? This is sickening.

Because the Japanese want to whale. Laws are local. Are you suggesting japan sovereignty should be trumped by foreign moral outrage?

Hey jackass, did you watch The Cove yet? Do it before you make yourself look any dumber than you already have.

>> ^westy:
[...] Fact is the whalers are doing this for a living and its been in there culture for a long time

Lasers and such aren't going to stop whalers but international awareness has and will continue to stop whaling... lasers and these games are interesting enough to show up here so it increases international awareness.

Reminds me of a mediocre book I've read roughly 15 years ago, "San Andreas" by Alistair MacLean. It's based during World War 2 and in it, the hero manages to ram a German U-boat with a damaged Navy hospital ship. The German captain simply was too eager and too much of an idiot.

Same here: if you're in a 45kts speedboat and get your bow rammed off by a bloody whaler, you're an overly eager idiot.

But maybe it'll escalate to the next level and they'll finally arm their Batmarine with mini-torpedoes.

>> ^Sagemind:
Captain Watson said the Ady Gil was idling in Antarctic waters when it was suddenly rammed by the Japanese ship Shonan Maru, which was providing security to Japan's whaling fleet.


Seriously, could a ship that size sneak up on you and "suddenly ram" anybody with half a brain? And if getting hit by the firehose (prior to being "suddenly rammed") wasn't incentive enough to get out of the way, fuck 'em, i say.

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag. (show it anyway)

I haven't had meat, but I've had blubber. It tasted like an inner tube soaked in tuna fish oil.

>> ^maestro156:
>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
Does whale taste like cow, or it is more like chicken? Or is it as tasty as dog?

While I was visiting Iceland, I had the opportunity to taste whale meat. It was cooked medium-rare and had the texture of beef. The flavor was somewhat like beef or buffalo, but with a slight fish-oil hint to it.
It's not a bad meal, but I prefer beef.

Your video, Japanese Whaling Ship Shears Bow off High Speed Anti-Whaler, has made it into the Top 15 New Videos listing. Congratulations on your achievement. For your contribution you have been awarded 1 Power Point.

"Thanks to a $1 million donation from its namesake, US multi-millionaire Ady Gil, formerly known as Earthrace, the Ady Gil has become the latest addition to the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society's protest fleet". I quote Linda Carel: "(do you) you support the Japanese fisherman illegally shooting pregnant mother whales with spear guns that explode inside of them…in an area named a sanctuary by the IWC, which Japan refuses to abide by? Why would they? It serves them to refuse to recognize this sanctuary… the fish are so plentiful - they come to what they think is their safe haven to give birth to their calves." Whaling is wrong - especially in protected waters - so these people should be applauded for braving the harsh conditions and putting up a fight. >> ^westy:
>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
1.5m dollars on a boat...the true spirit of the modern conservationist movement.

lol yah if they had any brains they would have gotten say 20 cheep boats that way they could scare whales of from all the whalers.

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
Does whale taste like cow, or it is more like chicken? Or is it as tasty as dog?


While I was visiting Iceland, I had the opportunity to taste whale meat. It was cooked medium-rare and had the texture of beef. The flavor was somewhat like beef or buffalo, but with a slight fish-oil hint to it.

It's not a bad meal, but I prefer beef.

>> ^Mcboinkens:
How is whaling still legal? This is sickening.


Because the Japanese want to whale. Laws are local. Are you suggesting japan sovereignty should be trumped by foreign moral outrage?

>> ^Mcboinkens:
How is whaling still legal? This is sickening.
Commercial whaling IS illegal.
Japanese don't call it whaling!
All of their ships have huge RESEARCH letters painted on them. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/Nisshin_Maru.jpg
The Japanese fleet consists of a factory ship, two spotter vessels, and three harpoon boats. The whalers say that lethal research is needed to accurately measure the whale population, health, and response to global warming and is essential for the sustainable management of the world's cetacean stocks. Australia and New Zealand have started a non-lethal whale research program to show that the Japanese lethal research program is no longer necessary. Sea Shepherd and other environmental groups dispute the Japanese statement of research "as a disguise for commercial whaling, which is banned." Meat from the hunt is available at Tokyo's famed Tsukiji fish market and Japanese restaurants.

http://www.videosift.com/video/Japanese-Whaling-Ship-Shears-Bow-off-High-Speed-Anti-Whaler