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RNC 2020 & Kenosha: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

newtboy says...

It's not at all bad faith, since it's what he came for and what he did. He crossed state lines armed looking for trouble he might stop using his gun. He went armed to play cop with zero training and illegally carrying a weapon he was too young to have. He might have Intended to only shoot at arsonists, but what he did was randomly shoot into crowds and down the streets, killing two non arsonists, allegedly while blind due to being pepper sprayed.

I can't decipher your good guilty easy innocent hard targets. What?

He has no right to deputize himself, no matter what property crimes he assumed were forthcoming.

Yeah, try to equate property crime to violent murder, it only shows you aren't arguing in good faith yourself.

He was blocks from the parking lot he came, uninvited, to "protect". Was his beat the whole city now?

Big difference between crossing state lines to guard someone else's business and guarding your own home, more bad faith arguments. You can use force to protect your home and family from threats of serious harm, you can't shoot your neighbor for trespassing and cutting some tree branches you didn't want cut.

Do you know who owned the property he murdered the first guy on? Maybe he stands with the crowd and militia boy was trespassing, brandishing a rifle, and eventually murdering someone there before running and gunning his way back home without reporting the shootings, ensuring that property will be torched within a week.
Great job protecting them. For all he knew he was shooting the owner, he wasn't protecting property when he shot.
That is the innocent property owner here, not the owner of the owner of the original parking lot he was guarding, not the kid or his parents, and this gung ho kid's actions ensured their properties destruction and exacerbated the unrest, triggering more property damage. Good job, fucknuts...enjoy big boy prison.

scheherazade said:

I'm not OK with armed kids shooting up any neighborhood.

If you're presenting Rittenhouse as such a kid, that's a bad faith argument. There is no evidence that 'shooting up the neighborhood' was in any way his motivation when he positioned himself in that neighborhood.

All public information points to him being there to discourage destructive elements (such as armed looters) from taking action in that neighborhood.

The ostensibly guilty parties being a hard target doesn't transform innocent easy targets into valid targets.

Most damage is done to private businesses and of vehicles (with the odd unfortunate being beaten to a pulp on the street).
Minneapolis had homes and churches damaged. I can't speak to homes in other locations because I haven't read up on them.




Property wise:
Property takes money to acquire.
Money takes time to acquire.
Time requires life.

(Not all insurance covers 'angry mob')

If it takes you 3 months to work to purchase something, and someone destroys it, they are taking 3 months of working life away from you. Unless they can refund you that life time, that's life time lost forever.

Reality is : Property is only 'just property' when it's not your own property.
If you can't defend property with force, then people are simply free to show up and take everything you have, and you just have to accept it.

Generally, I empathize with innocent people. So I lean towards the property owners in these cases.

-scheherazade

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Danny MacAskill's "Way Back Home" - New street trials riding

WORD-(three spoken word shortfilms)

rougy says...

My Dog from Hell

It was the day I got laid off
Boss said I was lazy

I heard that word
On my way back home
With each footstep through the snow

La-zy, laz-y, la-zy

With a cold key
In an old door
I twisted the knob

From a blue void
I stepped into the orange glow
Of my lazy world
Reeking of patchouli
And crock-pot stew

Saw my dog, Tessie, lying on the couch
Awakened from a dream

“We're professionals here,” said my boss.
“Everybody works long hours.”

Tessie blinked her
Coal-black teddy bear eyes
Smiled immediately

“You just don't get it,” said my boss.
“When you get to this level, you have to sacrifice.”

She leapt to greet me
Turning pirouettes in the air
Jumping so high
Nipping at my fingers
With her tiny hell-hound fangs

I said, “Did he sacrifice, Tessie?”
“When he bought that membership to the Denver Country Club?”
“Or when his wife toured Europe last summer?”

Tessie rolled on her back
And offered me her belly

I trudged past her to my bedroom
Loosened my tie
Collapsed on the mattress

My attache sprung open
As it hit the wall
A flurry of pseudo-code
Littered my world

“I thought you were more mature than that,” said my boss.

Like
A furry little Lipizzaner
Tessie huffed and marched
With high paws through the
Blizzard of hard copy

She laid down on my chest
Licked me on the nose

Darkly, outside my window
The winter's gloom gathered

I pushed her off
“Not now!”
Rolled to my side

All of me
Turned against the world
Wingtips
Pleated pants
Bill Blass silk tie
Yves Saint Laurent jacket

Unfazed
At the base of my back
She curled into a little ball
Facing the doorway
And guarded me from demons
As I wept

How to create a Custom Player in YouTube® (Howto Talk Post)

schmawy says...

There are a lot of folks posting just the first segment of long videos. When I go to YT to watch the rest, sometimes I get lost and can't make my way back home to VideoSift.

*promote.

Also, miss you C_P.

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RadHazG says...

My first though exactly, "boo hoo poor executive VP". However! The problem here is - what if this wasn't a VP? What if this had happened to say, some regular guy who flies all over the place hardly ever sees his family, and is on his way back home? What if this was you? It doesn't matter than it happened to this particular guy, the fact is that it could have happened to anyone really. If that had been me, I'd be pissed as all hell, and who wouldn't be?

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