It that the best you can do? Liken me to a wacko? Son, I served my time, don't bother insulting me because of your failures in the service. Some belong, and others like you find out they didn't. Don't rehash the past anymore...

This preacher is insignificant next to the power of racism which is Jeremiah Wright. He's more composed, not a wacko, and doesn't think much of Hussein boy. I kinda like him actually...

While I generally identify with Bill Mahr's viewpoint, I can definitely see where Huckabee is coming from. My dad is very similar to him and we've had many talks about religion that have helped me understand where he's coming from. Even if I don't agree with him.

Granted there are a huge number of wacko nutjobs like Bill Mahr takes issue with, there are also a large number of people like Mike Huckabee and my dad who believe in this way. So I could totally see where Huckabee was coming from and what he was trying to say.

I thought they both made excellent points even if the result was basically a draw. You'll never get either of those guys to come to an agreement on religion. The mindset, reality, and way of thinking are too far apart to be compatible.

The slickness of the presentation scares me. I like my zealous wacko's to wear bad suits, use bad video cameras, and poor audio equipment. Sweating a lot is a plus.

People might be fooled into thinking this nutjob is credible.

I got it now...the most populated state in the country by far (12% of total U.S. pop. with Texas coming in 2nd with 8%) got that way because of immigrants and all the outcasts/wackos from the rest of the country moved here and the normal rich people have fled the state. I'm glad we are clear on that now...for a second I thought you were just pulling this stuff out of your ass.

Also Master of the Obvious..the point YOU were making was that the founding fathers didn't give gays equal rights. It is irrelevant who sold who in what country. The fact is they didn't give blacks equal rights at the time and they didn't give women equal rights at the time...so? What does that have to do with today?

>> ^CaptainPlanet420:

Yes, everyone I meet. The conversation? Well I doubt you have met as many millionaires and former Californians with houses in multiples states, whether I want to meet them or not. Yes, the immigrants and wackos move to California, but those aren't the normal people I deal with.
And yes, if white people had sold themselves into slavery like blacks did, then I wouldn't expect they'd get many initial rights in Africa either. MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS.

>> ^Grimm:
>> ^CaptainPlanet420:
Everyone I meet says "don't go to California" because it is worse than it used to be.

Everyone you meet? How does that come up in conversation? How is it that everyone you meet not only knows what CA is like now but can compare it to what it used to be like?
The worst things about living in CA is how crowded it is. Why is it crowded? Because of all the people who move here from other states and countries. I guess they havn't got your memo about "don't go to California" that you and everyone you meet knows about.
Regarding our Founding Fathers...they weren't perfect you know. They also didn't feel the need for blacks to have equal rights or "special rights" as you put it.


Yes, everyone I meet. The conversation? Well I doubt you have met as many millionaires and former Californians with houses in multiples states, whether I want to meet them or not. Yes, the immigrants and wackos move to California, but those aren't the normal people I deal with.

And yes, if white people had sold themselves into slavery like blacks did, then I wouldn't expect they'd get many initial rights in Africa either. MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS.

I hate to say it, but I think the Secret Service has its work cut out for them should Obama win. After watching the videos that have shown up here, it seems like quite a few people may be willing to attempt such a thing should he win the presidency. Bunch of wackos out there.

bravo for refusing to debate creationism, do not lend legitimacy to the wackos.

Glad to see some McCain/Palin supporters *trying* to be sensible and reasonable, And without Palin on the ticket, they would have my sympathy.

I also have mixed feelings about the wackoes in this video, on the one hand, Obama is neither muslim or communist, so they are just plain lying and/or being ignorant. Also, even if Obama was muslim, even an extremist muslim, the Palin-sticker on their shirts would make them hypocrites, at best.

That being said, I think questioning candidates religious affiliations is a good thing, and not, as some suggested, racist. Of course, since none of the candidates actually are muslims, I have another desert dogma in mind.

As spoco2 said, its all well and good to separate religion completely from politics, and that religion should "never inform your decisions" But lets be honest, What kind of religion are we talking about here? If you really believe what you say you believe, how can it not inform you decisions?

If the US president REALLY believed, for instance, that the earth was flat, and that the edge was out somewhere out in the pacific, would he/she still be hellbent on protecting the west coast? What for?

Similarly, if you think the earth is 6000 years old, and God has cooked up the perfect plan, whats the point in worrying about climate change?

Rational and informed thinking tells us that infact the earth isnt actually flat, and its closer to 4 billion years old, and we are apes evolved on a climactic knife edge. So if rational conclusions can DIRECTLY contradict religious beliefs, what would a sincere religious believer do? I think Sarah Palin, for instance, Seriously believes the universe is 6000 years old, and that God has a plan for everything, in the same way she believes Alaska is close to Russia. Can she even tell which of these two are fantasy and which is a reality? How compartmentalized and mentally ill must her brain be to give up one of these beliefs on weekdays for the greater good of the climate?

In short, if you are religious, and really believe the things you say you believe, I have a hard time imagining how you can distance yourself entirely from it. So when electing people whose decisions can make or break literally the entire world, I actually think their religious beliefs ARE our business, and that those beliefs should, in the head of an informed voter, disqualify* certain candidates.

(*I must stress not disqualify by law, but by opinion of the individual voter)

I think General Powell summarized the right wing wacko's problem
quite well, and their poor choices ..and he told it so well.

Another one of the old guard (e.g. mlx, deputydog, plastiquemonkey) gone. This whole thing was really ugly. choggie was a colossal wacko, but I'll miss that guy. At the very least he was an interesting creature.

>> ^NordlichReiter:
What is sifter's opinions on Scientology?


Wackos. Pure and simple.

>> ^ponceleon:
Hah, I love it... Keep attacking her and she'll get elected... yeah... great threat. You don't have a good defense so you just threaten that if you keep attacking, you'll look bad.
Seriously, she's a wacko. Not pointing it out is a crime because shes going to be running the country for 6 years after McCain has a heart attack.


I'm not threatening.. it's an observation of what I perceieve as an understanding of the way people react to things. The media needs to be careful in the way they criticize her or it will backlash, thats all I'm saying.

If the media lays off the sexist, hocky mom stabs and grills her nicely about her inexperience and obvious lack of knowledge on foreign policy then she won't be sympathized.

People like her because she comes across as one of the people, unspoiled by Washington blah blah. If the libs and media can craftily wipe away that glamor shots glo she's has going on, and stop bashing her long enough, they'll more effectivly convince the public she can't do the job on charm and spunk alone.

Hah, I love it... Keep attacking her and she'll get elected... yeah... great threat. You don't have a good defense so you just threaten that if you keep attacking, you'll look bad.

Seriously, she's a wacko. Not pointing it out is a crime because shes going to be running the country for 6 years after McCain has a heart attack.

The game is based on intelligent design. Until one of those wackos play it, the the creatures will be retard-designed.