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The Day Liberty Died

bcglorf says...

I don't trust your video, not even a little bit.

I know you just dismissed opposing evidence earlier up thread, but here's a link to audio recordings and english transcripts the NSA captured and posted from Israeli helicopters in the area at the time. Again, I know you dismiss it, but they certainly were uncertain of what had just been hit/attacked.

https://www.nsa.gov/news-features/declassified-documents/uss-liberty/recordings.shtml

Friendly fire is a fact of war, Canadians on a training mission in Afghanistan where killed by USAF runs despite their training operation and location being registered with the airforce. Fatal screw ups happen in war so it seems much less of a stretch to call this an accident than a deliberate scheme against an ally.

You go ahead and believe some video referring to the 'mockingbird media' and using literally 4-5 words of audio and leaving out all other communications though, I'm sure they left it out for brevity and not because it contradicts their narrative. That's something only the mockingbird media would do...

Or perhaps more briefly, provide a little better evidence before acting like this is as clear cut as our knowledge that the earth is round...

newtboy said:

So you didn't watch the video, where they included audio of them identifying the ship prior to attacking and again afterwards.

I guess you didn't read any comments either, because a few reasons why they would do this have been given.

If unmarked ships/planes were targets, they might have attacked themselves as the attacking planes were also unmarked.

They knew the American ship was there, we told them beforehand. As mentioned in the video, they had to know which frequencies to jam, and they jammed American frequencies, not Egyptian. Again, watch the video, they identified it as American before sinking it.

The Day Liberty Died

bcglorf says...

This.

I get there is plenty of room to criticise Israeli actions and call them too aggressive. This is just not such an example, in any way, shape or form.

As vil said, this happened when Israel was actively at war. Nasser had blocked Israeli shipping and moved Egpytian forces onto the border. Israel then made a pre-emptive strike wiping out the Egyptian air-force, and then launching a ground offensive. The USS Liberty was running as an unmarked ship in the wrong place at the wrong time and Israel hit it too.

Israel knew it was a US military vessel or they didn't. If they didn't, it's highly possible they decided the unmarked military vessel was a threat and hit it. If they did, they decided it was a good idea to hit an American owned military vessel while starting/engaging a war with Egypt.

I can't reason out any situation where Israel thinks it's a good idea to deliberately kill and engage the US here, it's all bad for them. The most reasonable explanation is they attacked an unmarked military vessel in a war zone because they knew it wasn't their own.

vil said:

6 day war under way, standing orders to sink anything that moves near the shore, unmarked ship. Either pick a side or get out of the way.

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timtoner says...

I never though there WAS a question. I mean, the name itself, "WORLD TRADE Center". It's all about anti-globalization. They mind the fact that we remove crude oil from their homelands (which, given their delusions about an Eternal Caliphate, is a big swath of land), and give monstrously corrupt regimes all the cash and military might they want, as long as they keep the situation contained. The region was never stable to begin with, but with the way it was set up, it'll never get better. In their eyes, the WTC was where all those petrodollars were laundered and used to put a respectable business face on the dark deeds of the past. It's why Ward Churchill got into so much trouble by referring to those who worked in the WTC as 'little Eichmanns'-- hey, man, they were only following orders, pushing papers around an office. He wasn't calling them Nazis. Rather, Eichmann was found guilty not of killing anyone, but rather perfecting a system, the consequences of which was the slaughter of millions. This does not justify in any way the actions taken by the hijackers and their masters. The religion they so fervently follow forbids 'collateral damage'. They are hypocrites, and they are delusional. All this came out before, and I can imagine the MSM not really giving a damn about trucking out that bag of loons one more time.

As for 'It's Israel, stupid!" I'm not a fan of atrocities against unarmed civilians. I have no idea what it would take to make that part of the world get along. I do know that, were we to follow the whims of Khalid Sheikh Mohammad, the entire country AND race would be driven into the sea and drowned. There is no pretense to compromise. Israel is a convenient head to hang their hate. Simple as that. Could Israel chill the crap out a little more? Probably. 34 Americans died on the USS Liberty because Israel got sloppy.

The Palestinians need to realize what the people in Kansas seem incapable of understanding--there are people out there who will deceive you. They will make you believe that they are on your side, and protecting your interests. In truth, they only want to stir up the muck within yourselves, and will often make you act outside of your own self-interest. If we can't solve it among people at relative peace, how do we solve it when both sides have been going at it for decades?

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joedirt says...

I love the faux shock. Firstly this video is crap, and I have serious doubts about the translations, but I've seen shittier anti-muslim crap that attributed even worse translations, but that's ok because we have always been at war with Eastasia.

Anyways, please waste your breath on appropriate videos. This is clearly never going to make it out of the dead wasteland, so quit with your personal crusade. Do I really need to get out my avatar created just for one special person. SIFTERS FOR RACERISTS VIDEOS

Someone is batshit crazy with their everyone is a racist conspiracies.

Anyways, there is a legitimate news story about Israeli students and Israelis connected to 9/11. It isn't quit the level of the usual 9/11 conspiracy stuff, and I haven't seen it investigate enough. Anyone who does not think there are a ton of Mossad in this country are just sadly half-retarded. Now, this video just plays on the semi-facts regarding the FBI investigations, but it is real the group of "art students" or whatever they claimed to be.

And it also isn't racerist as you like to say. There are other races who happen to be Israeli also. There are also other religions who happen to be Israeli. So don't assume someone is racist because they criticize Israelis. They are no friend to this country and are quite expensive to keep as "allies" when the US has to pay out the welfare program in arms and protection money. The US could easily insure all the low-income children in THIS country if we just cutoff the funds we send to Israel to keep their economy propped up. Look at the video of the naval blockades or even the USS Liberty. (Of course the US is much much worse when it comes to their actions in the world)

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Krupo says...

Interesting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident has the Wiki summary, which points out that this video's theory is the product of the 2003 book by Peter Hounam called Operation Cyanide: How the Bombing of the USS Liberty Nearly Caused World War III.

The interpretation I understood until now was the arugment that Israel didn't want the States to see how well it was doing in its war, which would encourage it to stop the whole conflict at the UN.

Wonder what the backup for the conspiracy claims (6th fleet ordered to withdraw, etc.) looks like... sounds serious.

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joedirt says...

The closing the books on USS Liberty was equally overt on what politicians are willing to overlook when it comes to sending billions annually to Israel. You would think it would at least be debateable.

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