There are many different ways to sniff and spoof. These things are not common knowledge but they are the required learning for network IT guys.

Spoofing: Making a persons router think that you are the admin, and making the persons computer think you are the router. Man in the middle attack. This is a compromised network. See ARP spoofing, or UDP Spoofing, or SYN ACK attack.

Sniffing un compromised networks: In these we can snoop traffic, therefore any thing sent over a HTTP session can be snooped for and ripped open with a packet sniffer, HTTPS makes this harder. You throw a baseball, some one catches it, and then reads whats on the ball then sends it along. No network is safe from that unless, its a private network with no internet connection. Now it is possible to find these snoopers, by hop transfer time estimation. If a normally fast connection takes forever to return a page, then it could be a sign of an attack. If you have a notable ISP, or a good firewall and a secure HTTPS site like .gov or bank sites then it is a bit safer. That doesnt stop the ISPs from tracking your stuff.

In short if you have a firewall, you are safe from hijacking, but when you send stuff out over the internet (Like this comment here) then it is possible some one will read it. That is the nature of the beast.

If you suspect that the traffic is going some where it shouldn't be, trace its route to the server. I did a trace to this page from my gateway and it has about about 11 hops, traffic spikes once it makes its way over towards the west coast, thats normal from the east coast.

http://visualroute.visualware.com/

http://www.selfseo.com/find_ip_address_of_a_website.php - this page doesnt send you to a web server, it sends you to a gateway, where your traffic stops.

I am not a professional, and I have no affiliation with the above systems linked. From your friendly neighborhood white hat.

PS: The odds of a computer with a good firewall being attacked are pretty slim.

I think the lady is trying to milk the situation for money and that the cop is guilty of police brutality and should be fired and prosecuted, and probably won't.

Basically whenever someone resists the orders of a cop they are supposed to get them under control. This usually involves spraying pepper spray in their eyes or tazing them. Continuing to taze someone like that is torture, though.

Nothing pisses me off more than seeing some cop continually tazing someone. This is nothing compared to that traffic stop video where the lady won't get out of the car. The cop keeps telling her to get out and she won't comply, and he warns her twice he'll taze her if she doesn't. He then discharges the tazer and she immediately opens the door.

Then he starts shocking her continually as she screams in agony (really) and falls out of the car, screaming on the ground.

He didn't have to shock her.

That's one high intensity traffic stop.

There are some things I just do not understand. First our country was founded on the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, why do we not learn them? Second, even when people in a free nation find something wrong they say nothing and do less. Third, in a free republic, no one should be afraid of there government. Fourth, laws for the people should not fill libraries when even lawyers only learn parts, however; the people can be prosecuted on any of them, even in the face of ignorance. Fifth, why is it we invade and occupy other countries trying to be the police of the world? Is this the free nation so many have died for? Is this the nation we wish to leave to our children?

I joined the army to support and defend our Constitution against terrorism. I am finding the real terrorist are ourselves. We have turned a blind eye to our government and let them do as they please. Income tax is unconstitutional so they passed the 16th amendment, we let them. Yet in 6 months of looking I cannot find the law that Congress passed outlining income tax. According to the Constitution, the Military can only be governed by Congress, not a hand-full of appointed people, article 1 section 8 paragraphs 12-16. We can only go to war with a declaration of war, war on drugs, war on terrorism, and war on poverty, all unlawful. Conflicts are another issue, reading the Constitution, I can only find two reasons to commit troops; defense of invasion and declaration of war. The people holding office have sworn to uphold the Constitution; we need to hold them to their oath. We are responsible to know and enforce the Constitutional law; full understanding of it should not be in question. It is the Supreme law of our land, it should be the one law every American knows passionately and intimately it is not open to manipulation.

There is NO LAW anywhere stating we must pay or file income tax, out of fear we do. The Federal Reserve is not a department of any branch of our government; it is not subject to audit or investigation by any outside organization. It somehow has the right to print our money and control the interest rates. Our government borrows from them and pay’s it back with interest. The Constitution says we will only “Coin” money to keep its value true and real. We watch as our fellow Americans are jailed and stripped of every thing. We have let them set up the CIA, FBI, NSA and Department of Homeland Security, to spy on us and everyone else doing nothing. We have let the Department of Education tell us what to teach our children. Department of Protective Services tells us how to raise our children. Departments of; Transportation, Energy, and many more you can look up.
http://www.usa.gov/Agencies/Federal/All_Agencies/index.shtml

The inefficiencies, and contradictions, are astounding. The vast majority of them could be abolished and we would be better off without them controlling our lives and business.


We all live in fear and are intimidated by our government, the phrase “You can’t fight City Hall” or “What can you do about it, it’s the government.” Our police, enforcing blind obedience, treat us as criminals all the time even during traffic stops. Put in handcuffs just to be taken in for questioning. We are required to show identification if asked. Registering cars, boats, guns, pet’s, even ourselves. We must ask permission to get married, drive, skill trades, hunt, fish, build a house, or alter it. As an added insult we must pay for the privilege. Does this sound like Land of the Free, the Home of the Brave? They can take our lands if they decide it is in the Public’s best interest, without vote, or consideration of the land owner. The most disturbing thought is we have people who have been serving in Washington and the military for 20 plus years. Why have none of them done any thing to fight for it? The obvious fact would be they do not think we can make decisions for ourselves, or as we give up our freedoms the power over us increases and they like the power. I would like to see anyone who has knowingly compromised the Constitution pay back every dime they were paid and put in jail. The device of control they so carefully implemented.

I have yet to meet anyone who says they know all the laws, even Lawyers going to school for 8 years or more only learn to specialize in one area. Our Republic was not intended to repress or control every aspect of our life. Freedom should mean Free. Free choice, right or wrong, is ours to make. We as the People of a Free Republic, looking out for each other in common respect, would not need tomes of law to live in peace. We need to know we are not a capitalist democracy. We do not need our government to dictate how we live, think, believe, behave or raise our families. Here is a fact about our legal system, Alaska has 683,000 total population, Texas has 706,000 in the correction system, the prison budget of 52.4 billion (2006) nation wide, once in the system there is a 90% repeat offender rate. It does not look as though the correction system is working!

I am a Soldier sworn to defend and uphold the Constitution; I will spend the rest of my life doing so. I have read and reread the Constitution, it is very clear as to our role in World politics, trade but not interfering with the internal politics of other Countries. We have 106 bases outside the U.S. securing our interests. We are given live ammunition and the right to apprehend anyone trying to cross someone else’s border but not our own. Try if you can to imagine China, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Iran, Russia, France or any other nation having one of their bases in the U.S. When I look up the definition of terrorist, then look at our behavior world wide and internally, I see true terrorism. We the people have let down our founding fathers. We the people have to make it right. Congress, down to your local townships, must understand we are in charge. Write letters, form groups, learn the Supreme Law, and push to implement it. No law maker any were at any level can write a law that is in conflict to the Constitution. This includes the military, no regulation that removes rights is Constitutional, only congress can govern us, they were not given the right to govern us out side the Constitution. I am very disappointed with the unprofessional silent obedience the officers have demonstrated over the years, for us to get to this point the military, law enforcement, politicians and the courts have all failed to do there civil service. For more than a hundred years we have let things go, without a doubt it will take time to correct.

One more thing, just to ponder on a small group working for GM developed an electric car called the EV1. They built 4000 of them leased them to people in California for 4 years. Not one person who had them had any complaints about the car or its performance. At the termination of the lease GM refused to sell the customers the cars. GM sent an employee to the scrap yard to insure every one of them went through the shredder not just crushed but shredded. With the lack of maintenance and repair, the car would not be able to be sold for enough to make the same profits as the inefficient internal combustion engine. Big business has gotten out of control we must wake up and take our republic back. Anyone who is not willing to fight even die for their freedom does not deserve freedom and should consider leaving. I will gladly stand side by side with anyone fighting for freedom, and a fight is coming.

you all need to look and read up on Ron Paul. we do have a choice this time!! There are some things I just do not understand. First our country was founded on the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, why do we not learn them? Second, even when people in a free nation find something wrong they say nothing and do less. Third, in a free republic, no one should be afraid of their government. Fourth, laws for the people should not fill libraries when even lawyers only learn parts. However; the people can be prosecuted on any of them, even in the face of ignorance. Fifth, why is it we invade and occupy other countries trying to be the police of the world? Is this the free nation so many have died for? Is this the nation we wish to leave to our children?

I joined the army to support and defend our Constitution against terrorism. I am finding the real terrorist are ourselves. We have turned a blind eye to our government and let them do as they please. Income tax is unconstitutional so they passed the 16th amendment, we let them. Yet in 6 months of looking I cannot find the law that Congress passed outlining income tax. According to the Constitution, the Military can only be governed by Congress, not a hand-full of appointed people, article 1 section 8 paragraphs 12-16. We can only go to war with a declaration of war, war on drugs, war on terrorism, and war on poverty, all unlawful. Conflicts are another issue, reading the Constitution, I can only find two reasons to commit troops; defense of invasion and declaration of war. The people holding office have sworn to uphold the Constitution; we need to hold them to their oath. We are responsible to know and enforce Constitutional law; full understanding of it should not be in question. It is the Supreme law of our land, it should be the one law every American knows passionately and intimately and should not be open to manipulation.

There is NO LAW anywhere stating we must pay or file income tax, but out of fear we do. The Federal Reserve is not a department of any branch of our government; it is not subject to audit or investigation by any outside organization, yet it somehow has the right to print our money and control the interest rates. Our government borrows from them and pays it back with interest. The Constitution says we will only “Coin” money to keep its value true and real. We watch as our fellow Americans are jailed and stripped of everything. We have let them set up the CIA, FBI, NSA and Department of Homeland Security, to spy on us and everyone else doing nothing. We have let the Department of Education tell us what to teach our children. Department of Protective Services tells us how to raise our children. Departments of; Transportation, Energy, and many more you can look up.

The inefficiencies and contradictions are astounding. The vast majority of them could be abolished and we would be better off without them controlling our lives and business.


We all live in fear and are intimidated by our government, often quoting the phrases “You can’t fight City Hall” or “What can you do about it, it’s the government.” Our police, enforcing blind obedience, treat us as criminals all the time even during traffic stops. Putting us in handcuffs just to be taken in for questioning. We are required to show identification if asked. Registering cars, boats, guns, pet’s, even ourselves. We must ask permission to get married, drive, skill trades, hunt, fish, build a house, or alter it. As an added insult we must pay for the privilege. Does this sound like Land of the Free, the Home of the Brave? They can take our land if they decide it is in the Public’s best interest, without vote or consideration of the land owner. The most disturbing thought is that we have people who have been serving in Washington and the military for 20 plus years. Why have none of them done any thing to fight for it? The obvious fact would be they do not think we can make decisions for ourselves, or as we give up our freedoms the power over us increases and they like the power. I would like to see anyone who has knowingly compromised the Constitution pay back every dime they were paid and put in jail. The device of control they so carefully implemented.

I have yet to meet anyone who says they know all the laws, even Lawyers going to school for 8 years or more only learn to specialize in one area. Our Republic was not intended to repress or control every aspect of our life. Freedom should mean Free. Free choice, right or wrong, is ours to make. We as the People of a Free Republic, looking out for each other in common respect, would not need tomes of law to live in peace. We need to know we are not a capitalist democracy. We do not need our government to dictate how we live, think, believe, behave or raise our families.
Here is am interesting fact about our legal system: Alaska has 683,000 for a total population. Texas has 706,000 in their correction system. Almost the entire population of one state resides in the correctional system of another. The overall budget for the national prison system is 52.4 billion (2006). Once a person enters into the system there is a 90% repeat offender rate. It does not look as though the correction system is working!

I am a Soldier sworn to defend and uphold the Constitution; I will spend the rest of my life doing so. I have read and reread the Constitution. It is very clear as to our role in World politics. It is to trade but not to interfere with the internal politics of other countries. We have 106 bases outside the U.S. securing our interests. We are given live ammunition and the right to apprehend anyone trying to cross someone else’s border but not our own. Try if you can to imagine, China, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Iran, Russia, France or any other nation having one of their bases in the U.S. When I look up the definition of terrorist, then look at our behavior world wide and internally, I see true terrorism. We the people have let down our founding fathers. We the people have to make it right. Congress, down to your local townships, must understand we are in charge. Write letters, form groups, learn the Supreme Law, and push to implement it. No law maker any were at any level can write a law that is in conflict to the Constitution. This includes the military. No regulation that removes rights is Constitutional, only congress can govern us. They were not given the right to govern us out side of the Constitution. I am very disappointed with the unprofessional silent obedience the officers have demonstrated over the years, for us to get to this point the military, law enforcement, politicians and the courts have all failed to do there civil service. For more than a hundred years we have let things go, without a doubt it will take time to correct.

One more thing, just to ponder on. A small group working for GM developed an electric car called the EV1. They built 4000 of these then leased them to people in California for 4 years. Not one person who had them had any complaints about the car or its performance. At the termination of the lease GM refused to sell the cars to the customers. GM sent an employee to the scrap yard to insure every one of them went through the shredder, not just crushed but shredded. With the lack of maintenance and repair, the car would not be able to be sold for enough to make the same profits as the inefficient internal combustion engine. Big business has gotten out of control we must wake up and take our republic back. Anyone who is not willing to fight even die for their freedom does not deserve freedom and should consider leaving. I will gladly stand side by side with anyone fighting for freedom, and a fight is coming.

If you do not know the truth then you need to. If you do, why have you not taken steps to correct what you know is wrong? I will be spending all my time and effort to educate as many people as I can. You should all be doing the same. Please help us, help each other, please help yourselves. The consequences of doing nothing would be catastrophic.


Sincerely Patriot and Servant,
David Williams

Yes Fedquip, fear:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEpUtoUzE4U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3TDhgdwUeQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dBMHF3QvtA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baix0Xa9x3o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo0Z2WTDJnE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYDZK2u0g-o (about 1:40)

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f840ab50b2



Some examples of why, even if the cop is an ass, to be nice and sign the ticket. These are the kinds of things that are going through an officer's head when they make a traffic stop.

Here's another clip of a woman cop getting beaten down by a dad with his family in the car:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PaCHLgZc0A


We do have a cultural difference. The culture changed some years ago when people started beating and shooting cops during traffic stops. You should see these guys come up to your car at night now. They come prepared for a fire fight. That's why I say, "be nice. Sign the ticket. Argue later." It's a traffic ticket. Now really, how big of a deal is that in the game of life?

Evenin' Fedquip,

First, in every state of the Union that I'm aware of, you have to sign the ticket. It is not an admission of guilt. It says that right on the ticket and usually the officer voices the same: "This is not an admission of guilt." (Happened to me the other day, BTW). It just means you were there and the cop was there and then if you have a problem with it, you appear before the judge and argue your case. It's not a big deal. If you have no problem and you were breaking the law, you pay the fine and it's over. Also, no big deal.

Second, contrary to what some have said about this clip elsewhere, the guy doesn't get tazed for not signing the ticket. Watch the clip. Check out the driver's right hand before Johnny Law grabs the taser. What the heck is he DOING??!! As we play it back it appears that he's putting away a cell phone. But how does that look to the cop? People get shot for screwing around like that. Does he want to get shot? Cop looks at right hand . . . then grabs taser . . . dude starts back to car . . . turns his back . . . cop can't see where homey-chicken has his hands . . . end-game. The kid is lucky it was only a taser.

If you get pulled over in the states, place both hands on the steering wheel when the cop approaches. Don't go grabbing for stuff in your car. Move slowly when taking out your wallet, registration, etc. Answer politely when spoken to. Even if the cop is making a mistake, now is not the time to straighten him out. Sign the dang ticket and take it up with the judge. Too many of these guys have friends who didn't make it home to their families after a simple traffic stop gone bad. You'd have to be living in a cave to not know that.

Did he "deserve" to be tasered? No. He asked to be tasered.



PS: The clip you linked is the exact same clip. Both are 9:31.

Sc

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying your opinion is entirely impossible. I was just offering an alternative possibility. You know with adrenaline pumping you aren't always entirely accurate in word choice, esp. if while there first-hand you interpret something differently than a video playback implies.

Either way, I hope you're not saying that immediately when starting the traffic stop he was intentionally lying and already planning to end up killing him later somehow. In reality, his words at the beginning didn't have anything to do with the conclusion of the chase. IOW, the officer saying he was being almost rammed had no bearing on the suspect's final decision to hit the gas with an officer on his hood.

In reply to this comment by eric3579:
I think if you watch it again you can clearly see that the suspect stops his car after making the u-turn, in fear of a possible collision.

In reply to this comment by lucky760:
I agree this doesn't deserve a place in "Police gone bad." We missed the precious seconds prior to the firing officer ending up on the hood, but it seems like he was standing beside or in front of the vehicle when the driver accelerated which is how he probably ended up jumping on the hood. (Unlikely that the suspect vehicle was stopped and the officer just decided to climb aboard rather than approach the driver-side window.)

In any case, once the officer the was up there, the driver had no choice but to stop. The officer was not in the wrong, nor was he lying about the driver trying to ram him; it's very understandable that in the heat of the moment the suspect's initial U-turn could seem like an attempted collision that just couldn't turn tightly enough. After all, if he was just going to run, he could have just gone straight ahead.

I don't agree this is merely LCD indulgence. I think open discussions about important, controversial current events are very worth having, especially when they involve state versus citizen.

I was curious about any followup activity on this. So far I haven't found much, but some more interesting background I got a LOL out of.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/34992940ABCFBFF886257355000D2A55?OpenDocument

A check of court records shows Kuehnlein [the officer in this story] himself pleaded guilty of assault and stealing in two different cases, in 1988 and 1990. He successfully petitioned a judge in St. Louis County in 1998 to expunge his criminal record, which was making it hard for him to get work as a cop.

The judge ordered those records sealed, as well as records of an acquittal for drunken driving and an assault arrest that did not result in charges.

...

Five years ago, an administrative commission upheld an accusation that Uhrig [the police chief who suspended Kuehnlein] propositioned a 17-year-old girl for sex during a traffic stop in 2000, when he was an Arnold officer.

Cole told investigators that Uhrig had her drive to an empty parking lot where he spoke of jail, petted her arm and face, told her she was "beautiful, hot, and tempting," and suggested a "quickie."

...

Police misconduct is an old story in St. George. In 1981, Chief Milton Russell Schepp worked with the so-called "Syrian underworld" to plant a bomb in a car driven by mobster Paul J. Leisure. Leisure survived the blast, and Schepp went to prison.


Did you catch that last bit? A former police chief set up a car bomb. This sounds like a great place to live, with real role-model cops to help you through your daily life!


Edit: This seems to be a good place to keep up on what develops: http://www.zimbio.com/Brett+Darrow

I don't see why the two guys from the traffic stop are in cuffs, yet the person who just mowed down a cyclist is treated very nicely.

WARNING: SEE NOTE IN NEXT COMMENT RE: NSFW

It's painful to watch the injured man, but inspiring to see the professionalism of the cop.

Ironic that the original traffic stop was for a cracked windshield in the red car, seeing what happened afterwards.

This is one of those posts that I don't really see a channel for (although *action would no doubt cover it).