Ignoring the video - which is typical bilge - I'll move on to actual substance. Here is the crux of the current panic that is gripping the Warmies... Their empire is crumbling and they know it. Hence, they are lashing out in panic and anger. This is typical of most socialist scams when they go belly-up, as is further evidenced by the riots in Europe and elsewhere.

The Warmies have always had a particularly ugly sow’s ear they were desperately trying to turn into a silk purse. Their primary concern has never been the cliimate. Their sole objectives have always been entirely oriented around the creation of expensive programs which force human beings to accept decreased standards of living, reduced freedoms, higher taxes, less food, costly commodities, limited transportation, and onerous regulations. In exchange for all these burdens, humanity was to be provided a very nebulous ‘benefit’ (0.001% lower C02) which was by no means even guaranteed by the implementation of their draconian measures. That’s a tough bottle of snake oil to sell, even IF you have ironclad proof of your argument. And of course when it came right down do it the problem with the Warmies' argument was that they NEVER had proof of any kind beyond fabrications, exaggerations, and fevered imagination.

One of the main problems with all you Warmies is that you can't put forward a position. You talk about 'scientific proof' of 'climate change'. Pht. You don't need the rigor of scientific method to tell anyone that the climage changes. Dur dur dur. Everyone accepts the premise that Earth's climate is not static. Wow - what a keen observation.

Where the Warmies have lost the argument is thier plaintive, inaccurate, unproven position that HUMAN C02 emmissions are (A) what changes the climate and (B) the climate can be changed by reducing human C02. There was never any evidence of that position. But Warmies love to muddle terminology and pretend that just because 'scientists' agree that climate is changing (again - not much of an accomplishment) that also all those scientists agree that human activity is responsible for it (which they most decidedly do NOT).

Add on top of that the fundamental reality that many of the cornerstones of the APG Warmie movement have been proven to be complete bunk. Just this week the Polar Bear guy was proven by a federal probe to be completely full of crap. He had no data that bears were dying because of human activity as he claiimed. The hockey stick chart - falsified. East Anglia university data - the numbers are cooked. The IPCC panels - all thier data is bad and the majority of thier claims have all been debunked and failed. Time and time again when you put the Warmies under the microscope of REAL SCIENCE, the argument completely falls apart.

The video has it completely backwards. It is not FOX & conservatives who are faking thier way. The entire climate change movement and all its acolytes are the ones who are lying to accomplish a biased, incorrect, inaccurate, anti-science objective entirely for political purposes.

I understand why this is confusing as hell;

http://science.kennesaw.edu/~jdirnber/InvertZoo/LecIntro/TreeTime.jpg

... here is a relatively straight-forward 'evolutionary tree' cartoon,... the biggest thing to note is the Time axis... you have to trace the lines to see where species diverge and then look around to see if that line split happens before other line splits with respect to the Time direction.

Even in this simple diagram, you have to look at it for a minute to realize that reptiles, birds and most of the dinosaurs we think of split off from what became mammals, then reptiles split off from that group, then some dinos split off, then birds... So this is to illustrate that the split between what became mammals is farther back in time than the split separating birds and most dinos, and birds and reptiles. So this illustration really functions like a family tree, showing relationships with time and allow you to pick out that birds are closely related to dinosaurs, and that we have to go pretty far back to see where animals diverged into what became mammals and what became reptile/bird/dinosaurs.

If you're interested you should look for bigger ones trees,... when you start including plants, bacteria, archaebacteria, etc.... stuff gets pretty wild because you're reaching the edge of the science... and the complex smaller trees that just cover one group of critters can be really interesting to see... so much variety.

Oh, last note for transparency; they generally make these 'family trees' by researching comparative anatomy and tons of fossils, but have been using DNA to produce new and correct old 'phylogenetic trees' for 20 or 30 years now.

(image from this page, which focuses on terminology, but has good pictures: http://science.kennesaw.edu/~jdirnber/Bio2108/Lecture/LecPhylogeny/LecPhylogeny.html )


>> ^Jinx:

>> ^heathen:
>> ^Jinx:
Same logic: What are we then?

Mammals - which birds aren't and dinosaurs weren't.

Yes ok, but Mammals are as much Reptile as Bird are Dinosaur.

Is that the official terminology? "First Dude?"

Do these men feel their masculinity is that threatened, (because their wife is in the highest office of power), that First Man isn't cool enough. They have to resort to "First Dude?"

That's pathetic.

I happen to dig antiquated terminology, so I will grant your wish to bear the title 'liberal'. I'm feeling rather generous today, so I'll do you one better and also bequeath you with the title 'gay', which is an antiquated term for happiness.

Henceforth you shall be known as: Blankfist - the gay liberal

Funny that you should tell KnivesOut to educate himself and refer him to a link to wikipedia when in a previous comment you said "quoting from the liberally biased wikipedia doesn't help your case.". So are you suggesting that a liberal bias only helps your case and not anybody else's? It's also funny that you should be telling people to educate themselves about NLP when in your comment on your video you call NLP " the mind control technique of NLP, which is nero logistical programming". Seriously, NERO LOGISTICAL???? I give up, for me that pretty much somes up your intellectual investment in this thread.

PS: To quote wikipedia "NLP has been largely ignored by conventional social science in part due to a lack of professional credibility and insufficient empirical evidence to substantiate its effectiveness,[14][15] and is characterized by its critics, mainly psychologists, as a fringe psychotherapy or as having pseudoscientific characteristics, disputing its title, concepts, and terminology".>> ^shinyblurry:

medicare is unconstitutional, humanists have conspired to replace creation with evolution (i have 100 quotes from secular humanists proving this), this world will end climate change or not, and all sin leads to death
in any case, NLP isnt something the AAPS came up with..why dont you read a little bit about it and educate yourself
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming
a lot of famous "magicians" use it in their acts..for example, when they go up to someone and say a bunch of nonsense words and phrases in rapid succession and the subject collapses like a switch was flipped..thats NLP
>> ^KnivesOut:
Some of the other lies published by the Association of American Physicians:

• that the Food and Drug Administration and Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services are unconstitutional


• that "humanists" have conspired to replace the "creation religion of Jehovah" with evolution


• that human activity has not contributed to climate change, and that global warming will be beneficial and thus not a cause for concern


• that HIV does not cause AIDS


• that the "gay male lifestyle" shortens life expectancy by 20 years.

>> ^dannym3141:

>> ^rottenseed:
So she gets high twice, has 1 good trip and 1 bad trip, and now they're reached an ultimate conclusion. Wow...science sure is easy.

Well i don't understand exactly what's going on with the separate experiments. I assume the cannabinoid is what you typically get from weed, and the pure THC is the extracted drug from the weed without anything else.
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Maybe you are confused because they tried to dumb down the terminology. They are testing the interaction between two cannabinoids found in Cannabis, THC and cannabidiol. The idea is that new varieties of Cannabis have been selected from higher THC content, and that this throws off the ratio between THC and other canabinoids in the plant. The question is, "does the ratio of THC to other cannabinoids affect the frequency of psychosis in Cannabis users?" They are testing this by giving people either synthetic THC alone, or synthetic THC in conjunction with synthetic cannabidiol.

Their sample size is small, but the results appear to support the prediction that the effects of THC are altered by the presence of an additional cannabinoid that naturally co-occurs in Cannabis.

This appears to be the research they are reporting on:
http://www.nature.com/npp/journal/v35/n3/full/npp2009184a.html

I don't see why the marijuana users have their hackles up about this. Wouldn't it make sense to push the breeding community to develop strains with smoother, or a wider variety, of highs, rather than constantly pushing for greater potency? Maybe they are already doing this?

from wikipedia: "Evaporation is a type of vaporization of a liquid that occurs only on the surface of a liquid. The other type of vaporization is boiling, which, instead, occurs on the entire mass of the liquid. Evaporation is also part of the water cycle."

so using the wrong terminology in a instructive video. FAIL.

also, MycroftHolmes, thanks for that quality point from the sifttalk i did

I thought jellyfish was a misnomer like starfish. Neither are "fish" and the preferred terminology now is sea jelly and sea star.

@jonny will explain that that correct terminology is "envelopment." Especially if it is your movie!

For RedSky:-"If this was purely a GOP deal, then to revert on it this far into a Democratic presidency seems entirely arbitrary."

Your statement infers that there is some fundamental difference in either party (a wholly critical and objective look at their workings reveals a common bond and lineage merging at the inception of The U.S.) All I have seen from studying the past 100 years of world affairs and living in almost half of those is one war after another as empires are shaped, with the arms to affect these being produced by the same families or now, corporations. This is a form of genocide if you will or perhaps eugenics would be better terminology to use to describe it.

for YOGI:-I'd venture to guess that if you were to suddenly know those who were working behind the scenes to affect sudden and sweeping population control measures or who have been slowly eliminating the mental capacities and health of billions of people through chemical and pharmaceutical manipulation, you just might need to purchase some explosives to carry out the task of killing, quite a few Wealthy Deranged People. (WDP's)

We are all being duped.
Try to wrap your heads around the idea that what you think you know, is all wrong.

Here's the good news-Everything is unfolding as it is and the universe has a long time to go before it collapses in on itself or falls into some black hole or whatever it's supposed to do. Smoke a bowl.

"Ding dong, Bin Laudanums' dead, ding dong, the fascist bitch is deeeeeeead!
Bring a piton for his head, ding dong, the Muslim witch is deeeeeeeeead!"

It happened on Obama's watch, "OOOOOOOOOhhh! Now those who will have to vote for the guy who killed Osamas' numbers will grow! NEWSFLASH!!!! SOME of them will be so-called republicans, other so-called democrats. ALLLLLL OF THEM WILL BE BEING SOLD A BILL OF GOODS to ensure a relatively tidy corporate takeover of the whole damn globe.

Keep watching your televisions- sorry, telescreens.

Now THAT is true.

Seriously though - I can't think of a single person in the GOP of any note that is a "birther" in the sense that they don't think Obama was born in Hawaii. So far it seems to me that the cuckoo far-left fringe and their media shills (MSNBC) are far more obsessed with this issue than anyone on the right. MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, NTY, AP, et al are running 'birther' stories at a 4 to 1 ratio compared to FOX News. People that are whining "Let it go!" should be directing their venom at the left wing media complex, not the birthers.

But of course the neo-lib media won't let it go because it gives them a way to do what they do best... That is to deliberately screw up terminology, perception, and language in order to paint the sins of a tiny fringe with a big fat brush onto anyone they don't like. Now all the liberally biased media outlets are literally screaming like frothing lunatics that anyone who wants to see 'records' is a racist/bigot.

Bullcrap. There are people who want to see Obama's records. There is NOTHING WRONG with that. Any person who runs for ANY public office from Dogcatcher to President should be willing and able to supply any and all records on request. That is not a big deal. Just because people want to see Obama's records doesn't make them either 'birthers' or racists. That's just a load of garbage that neo-lib left wing propogandists are screaming loudly and often in the plaintive, desperate hope that the stupid and inattentive will believe it.

But reality check time. Obama isn't the first President who had this issue swirling around him. Chester Arthur, Barry Goldwater, and John McCain just a few who have had to produce records about thier births to settle controversies. And they're all WHITE guys. So please - none of this BULLCRAP that Obama is some sort of innocent, unique victim of racism over this birth certificate issue. Give me a break. What a steaming pile of hotspur. The whole issue wasn't even STARTED by the GOP. Hillary Clinton's campaign was the first group to bring this all up.

There is a finite number of true things and an infinite number of false things you can say about the universe. Therefore any statement you make without evidence is infinitely more likely to fall into the infinite false category than it is to fall into the limited true category.

As a statistician, I can with no malice inform you that the above statement is incorrect. Statistics does not presume to arrive at definitive conclusions. Statistics merely comment on probabilities in relation to the reliability and repeatability of a particular population of observations.

If there are an infinite number of false statements, and an infinite number of true statements, then the probability that is most likely is that any statement a person makes is likely to be both true and false relative to context.

I don't always agree with Teller. His logic is a bit haphazard. However, he does at least try to approach things fairly, and I respect that. Religion by its very definition is not a matter of physical observation. It is a matter of personal faith. As such, it is a qualitative observation rather than a quantitative. Attepting to cast the discusion in terms of 'proof' or 'statistics' is meaningless.

Many atheists/agnostics refuse to discuss religion unless it is confined to terms of experimental scientific methodology. Such an approach is futile. Discussing issues of faith using such limited terminology is like trying to discuss 'flavors' with someone who has no taste buds. There is no way you can wrap up and quantify the flavor "Vanilla" so as to make a man without taste understand it. With such a limited capacity for input the best you can do is give a soul-less, heartless, vague skeleton of the experience.

Thanks man, that's the plan. And yeah, fuck breaking bones.
In reply to this comment by blankfist:
Very awesome. Good luck with that. And pursue it doggedly! If you stay at it, you will find others opening the doors for you.

Breaking bones sucks.

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
I think it's more about the terminology (just saying "military industrial complex" triggers reactions, despite the fact that it's really just a convenient term for describing a complex issue because of the negative meaning that has been put on the word), personal ideas of what is good/bad, and a whole lot of ignorance on the issue of America's (and other nations') acts abroad and the facts/results behind them as opposed to just the surface reasons and the outwards political debate. I mean, hey, you can get away with a lot of questionable acts (I consider forcing other nations into your web of "influence" and basically stripping them of the ability to control their own destiny via CIA and other such methods wrong, but since morals are human constructs, unless enough of us agree that it's wrong and force our government to change its ways, those who make their own reasoning as to why it's okay will continue to do so) if you do them within the framework of an generally accepted "good" act. Different paradigms paint different realities, all you can do for people is try to point them to literature and info that can help them get over misinformation and hope their personal views do in fact align more with yours once they know more.

I still don't use a smartphone, but that app looks like it could be pretty amusing to play with for sure.

As for music, I've got a broken finger on my left hand that's gotta be in a cast for three more weeks, so it's somewhat on hold, but I need a reliable lead guitarist eventually and this gives me more time to look for one before i start trying to play shows. Got a short 30 minute set scheduled for mid-late May on campus, so that's something I'm really looking forward to. I've finally settled completely on trying to go for it with music, so after I graduate things will be pretty busy with that, but that's what I love doing, so hopefully I can find a decent-paying job that won't interfere too much. We'll see, lol.
In reply to this comment by blankfist:
Ha. You know me, always against the wars and the military industrial complex. I guess I cannot say the same for everyone on here.

I've been good. Just finished an app for the android market. None too shabby. https://market.android.com/details?id=air.plinty.mulletizerfull

How's the music going?

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
Ahoy there sir. I saw your discussion with dft on Lybia and it reminded me of why I like you two, lol. How's life been going?

Very awesome. Good luck with that. And pursue it doggedly! If you stay at it, you will find others opening the doors for you.

Breaking bones sucks.

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
I think it's more about the terminology (just saying "military industrial complex" triggers reactions, despite the fact that it's really just a convenient term for describing a complex issue because of the negative meaning that has been put on the word), personal ideas of what is good/bad, and a whole lot of ignorance on the issue of America's (and other nations') acts abroad and the facts/results behind them as opposed to just the surface reasons and the outwards political debate. I mean, hey, you can get away with a lot of questionable acts (I consider forcing other nations into your web of "influence" and basically stripping them of the ability to control their own destiny via CIA and other such methods wrong, but since morals are human constructs, unless enough of us agree that it's wrong and force our government to change its ways, those who make their own reasoning as to why it's okay will continue to do so) if you do them within the framework of an generally accepted "good" act. Different paradigms paint different realities, all you can do for people is try to point them to literature and info that can help them get over misinformation and hope their personal views do in fact align more with yours once they know more.

I still don't use a smartphone, but that app looks like it could be pretty amusing to play with for sure.

As for music, I've got a broken finger on my left hand that's gotta be in a cast for three more weeks, so it's somewhat on hold, but I need a reliable lead guitarist eventually and this gives me more time to look for one before i start trying to play shows. Got a short 30 minute set scheduled for mid-late May on campus, so that's something I'm really looking forward to. I've finally settled completely on trying to go for it with music, so after I graduate things will be pretty busy with that, but that's what I love doing, so hopefully I can find a decent-paying job that won't interfere too much. We'll see, lol.
In reply to this comment by blankfist:
Ha. You know me, always against the wars and the military industrial complex. I guess I cannot say the same for everyone on here.

I've been good. Just finished an app for the android market. None too shabby. https://market.android.com/details?id=air.plinty.mulletizerfull

How's the music going?

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
Ahoy there sir. I saw your discussion with dft on Lybia and it reminded me of why I like you two, lol. How's life been going?

I think it's more about the terminology (just saying "military industrial complex" triggers reactions, despite the fact that it's really just a convenient term for describing a complex issue because of the negative meaning that has been put on the word), personal ideas of what is good/bad, and a whole lot of ignorance on the issue of America's (and other nations') acts abroad and the facts/results behind them as opposed to just the surface reasons and the outwards political debate. I mean, hey, you can get away with a lot of questionable acts (I consider forcing other nations into your web of "influence" and basically stripping them of the ability to control their own destiny via CIA and other such methods wrong, but since morals are human constructs, unless enough of us agree that it's wrong and force our government to change its ways, those who make their own reasoning as to why it's okay will continue to do so) if you do them within the framework of an generally accepted "good" act. Different paradigms paint different realities, all you can do for people is try to point them to literature and info that can help them get over misinformation and hope their personal views do in fact align more with yours once they know more.

I still don't use a smartphone, but that app looks like it could be pretty amusing to play with for sure.

As for music, I've got a broken finger on my left hand that's gotta be in a cast for three more weeks, so it's somewhat on hold, but I need a reliable lead guitarist eventually and this gives me more time to look for one before i start trying to play shows. Got a short 30 minute set scheduled for mid-late May on campus, so that's something I'm really looking forward to. I've finally settled completely on trying to go for it with music, so after I graduate things will be pretty busy with that, but that's what I love doing, so hopefully I can find a decent-paying job that won't interfere too much. We'll see, lol.
In reply to this comment by blankfist:
Ha. You know me, always against the wars and the military industrial complex. I guess I cannot say the same for everyone on here.

I've been good. Just finished an app for the android market. None too shabby. https://market.android.com/details?id=air.plinty.mulletizerfull

How's the music going?

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
Ahoy there sir. I saw your discussion with dft on Lybia and it reminded me of why I like you two, lol. How's life been going?