We live, everyday, surrounded by things that could cause us serious harm - electricity, gas, cars etc. but because we need/enjoy these things, we limit the risks by using intelligence, foresight, common sense and, yes, supervision. A dog is no different.

I'm done too...

>> ^A10anis:

>> ^Longswd:
>> ^A10anis:
kids that age should not be allowed near dogs. They pull, poke, prod etc. Then the parents wonder why the dog snaps...

Or the dog could just get up and walk away if it was bothered, which it clearly wasn't.

The video is short, maybe it did walk away. But, chances are, the kid would follow and the owner would allow it to. I have had 2 German shepherds (individually) and currently I have a Tamaskan(mighty wolf). I can assure you that they have, no matter how well trained, their moods. I never allowed my young kids - or any one elses - to pull, prod, torment, or stand on them (especially when the dog was sleeping). My point is simple. It's NOT worth the risk. There are innumerable reports of dogs just snapping and attacking kids and adults. In 99.9% of cases it is the owners, not the dogs fault. Why would anyone, in their right mind, take the chance of having their kid scarred for life(or worse), the dog put to sleep, and having to live the rest of their lives with the guilt. I'm sorry my response is a bit long winded but, sometimes, even the obvious needs pointing out.


The only thing "obvious" is that if you truly believe that is a real possibility, then you should not have those dogs to begin with. If they cannot be trusted, then don't worry about supervision, worry about why you are insistent on keeping them and maintaining a dangerous situation.

I am now done.

If we let the people out of prison, who will operate the factories they are attached to? Where will we get our cheap paint and crappy fiberboard office furniture?

(In the United States)the federal prison industry produces 100% of all military helmets, ammunition belts, bullet-proof vests, ID tags, shirts, pants, tents, bags, and canteens. Along with war supplies, prison workers supply 98% of the entire market for equipment assembly services; 93% of paints and paintbrushes; 92% of stove assembly; 46% of body armor; 36% of home appliances; 30% of headphones/microphones/speakers; and 21% of office furniture. Airplane parts, medical supplies, and much more: prisoners are even raising seeing-eye dogs for blind people. (...)

Profits are so good that now there is a new business: importing inmates with long sentences, meaning the worst criminals. When a federal judge ruled that overcrowding in Texas prisons was cruel and unusual punishment, the CCA signed contracts with sheriffs in poor counties to build and run new jails and share the profits. According to a December 1998 Atlantic Monthly magazine article, this program was backed by investors from Merrill-Lynch, Shearson-Lehman, American Express and Allstate, and the operation was scattered all over rural Texas. That state's governor, Ann Richards, followed the example of Mario Cuomo in New York and built so many state prisons that the market became flooded, cutting into private prison profits.

After a law signed by Clinton in 1996 - ending court supervision and decisions - caused overcrowding and violent, unsafe conditions in federal prisons, private prison corporations in Texas began to contact other states whose prisons were overcrowded, offering "rent-a-cell" services in the CCA prisons located in small towns in Texas. The commission for a rent-a-cell salesman is $2.50 to $5.50 per day per bed. The county gets $1.50 for each prisoner.

Source=/globalreasearch.ca/Vicky Pelaez/2008

@dystopianfuturetoday you're not helping anyone by misrepresenting the gold standard proposition and linking to a terribly disinformative article.

If you keep thinking like a central banker, you'll always hate the gold standard. Your contrived scenario just illustrates how these two things are incompatible, and you're absolutely right.

If you're in a recession, that means the economy made mistakes in a large scale. Trying to forcibly stop these mistakes from being corrected might avoid pain, but doesn't make the problem go away.

No one is advocating pain, but facing reality and letting corrections happen, whatever they are. If they're painful to some, so be it. Better than to keep doing the wrong thing.

Imagine how'd you live your life if you didn't feel physical pain. You'd have no aversion to risk, and you'd probably die without supervision.

>> ^00Scud00:

39 and I've still got mine, I've always wondered how necessary removing wisdom teeth is because my dentist always seemed to eager to remove them, but never said they actually had to be removed. But if I ever need to have them removed I want to be 10x more out of it than even this chick is.


Don't remove them unless you have to. If intact they are often the last teeth to remain and are very good to anchor the "fake teeth" to.

>> ^diction:

Dentists in my country aren't doctors, so they can't put you under without an anesthisiologist there, thus most dentists just use local anesthesia for this kind of thing.


Same here as well. I removed one wisdom tooth about two years ago. Just local anaesthesia and then took a bit more than an hour since it was a new dentist doing it under supervision. It was pretty annoying, since the new one gave up after about one hour and the experienced dentist took a look, drilled like hell for a few seconds and then pulled the tooth loose... Sure wished he would've done it immediately.

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>> ^hpqp:

I wholly agree that I detest these once atheists that have literally taken what is normally a balanced "naught" position as to God(s) existence barring evidence and instead these anti-theists ditch that stance and deem that not only is all religion a wash, but any God is as well. They're very "militant" in nature and seem to draw in those that are less secure about their own opinions; kind of like the Westboro Baptists. Unfortunately, they are also very pro-active, boisterous, and vitriolic in nature--worse of all they call themselves atheists still, giving the rest of us a bad rap.
Care to give some examples?



This is from our dear atheist, Christopher Hitchins. (I was fairly sure Hitchins was like this, but i couldn't remember specific points like you said; well i found a much better source for the matter: a small letter by him over this exact matter).

Christopher Hitchins little note (this drew some fire too it looks like when it came out):

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You seem to have guessed, from some remarks I have already made in passing, that I am not a religious believer. In order to be absolutely honest, I should not leave you with the impression that I am part of the generalized agnosticism of our culture. I'm not even an atheist so much as I am an antitheist; I not only maintain that all religions are versions of the same untruth, but I hold that the influence of churches, and the effect of religious belief, is positively harmful. Reviewing the false claims of religion I do not wish, as some sentimental agnostics affect to wish, that they were true. I do not envy believers their faith. I am relieved to think that the whole story is a sinister fairy tale; life would be miserable if what the faithful affirmed was actually the case.

Why do I say that? Well, there may be people who wish to live their lives under a cradle-to-grave divine supervision; a permanent surveillance and [around the clock] monitoring [a celestial North Korea]. But I cannot [personally] imagine anything more horrible or grotesque. It would be worse, in a way, if the supervision was benign...

I think that this conviction does bear on the mental and moral resources that are necessary if one hopes to live [on the contrary, if one hopes to live in dissent or if one hopes to live] "as if" one were free. In a much-quoted reflection on America's original sin [of slavery], Thomas Jefferson said, "I tremble for my country when I remember that god is just." However, if there really was a god and he really was just, then there would be little enough for believers to tremble about; it would be a consolation that infinitely outweighed any imaginable earthly care.

I have met many brave men and women, morally superior to myself, whose courage in adversity derives from their faith. But whenever they have chosen to speak or write about it, I find myself appalled by the instant decline of their intellectual and moral standards. They want god on their side and they believe they are doing his work - what is this, even at it's very best, but an extreme form of solipsism? [In other words "don't mind me I'm just doing god's work, I'm very modest." A poor syllogism, or a very humble humility, is defined by them.] They proceed from conclusion to evidence; our greatest resource is the mind, and the mind is not well-trained by being taught to assume what has to be proved.

This arrogance and illogic is inseparable even from the meekest and most altruistic religious affirmations. A true believer must believe that he or she is here for a purpose and is an object of real interest to a Supreme Being; he or she must also claim to have at least an inkling of what that Supreme Being desires. I have been called arrogant myself in my time, and hope to earn the title again, but to claim that I am privy to the secrets of the universe and its creator - that's beyond my conceit. I therefore have no choice but to find something suspect even in the humblest believer, let alone in the great law-givers and edict-makers of whose "flock" (and what a revealing word that is) they form a part.
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It might sound provincial and (oh dear) Eurocentric to say this, but not even those of us who had taken the gloomiest view of the arms race and the Cold War had ever expected to see a full-dress reprise, in Europe, of internment camps, the mass murder of civilians, the reinstitution of torture and rape and deportation as acts of policy. This was the sort of thing we had read about from six decades before; some of us (including myself) had met and got to know some survivors of that period. And of course, in a recess of our minds we had played the imaginary game: what would I do about the knock on the door; how would I react if the neighbors were being marched off to the station?

That tired analogy turned out to be uncomfortably useful, because when all this ghastliness did get under way again, the political class in Europe and America behaved for the most part with the same wretched combination of complacency and complicity that it had exhibited when Fascism first came to call.
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Here is one example. I do know that there are also a few more writers out there that are self-described, some not, ant-theists. Hopefully, this is the exact kind of thing you are looking for @hpqp . I'm just not terribly sure their ferocity over this right now is the right call. But, as I point out it certainly SHOULD be expected as many people in religion have done nothing, but callously call these once only atheists the living devil, the worst people alive, plus every demonic curse that can be called upon a person. Then they went further and threatened them with bodily harm; from individual members to actual leaders amongst these communities. Your house is vandalized and disgraced, your telephones ring non-stop to the rhythm of a religious battle hymn. These are things you wouldn't expect from good natured, Christ loving, religious people. I'm sure @shinyblurry will make sure it's known that these people are not Christians (and I would agree to an extent)--the problem with using this to literally sweep the whole problem under the carpet is that there is NO lesson learned. No one is harassed by the police as they should be or the media--it becomes a living nightmare to fight these people. Soon all you have left is to move out of town. But, in Christopher Hitchins example he is simply too famous to escape this.

My impression is that biomedical research using a canine models have intensely supervised facilities and have to follow a huge number of regulations. Animal models are a central part of biomedical research. I am as much a dog lover as anyody. But this research is incredibly important for curing degenerative diseases like MS, Parkinsons, etc. Without dogs or animal models medical research would be stuck in the stone ages.

Yup,
the burden is always on the originator (author) of the agreement. I can see many cases where a parent would sue because their 8 year-old child clicked accept while not supervised. There is no way this can ever hold water. Pressing "I Accept" on a screen rendered by a video game console (technically a toy) is very different from signing your name at the bottom of a legal agreement. Like you said, no self-respected judge will uphold this EULA.

>> ^viewer_999:

Just accepting a EULA doesn't make it law. A reasonable and honest judge would just ignore the clause.

Tried to figure out what was so special about Vista Way... Apparently it's just a dorm for college kids working at WDW. I suppose the stories are all fueled by the fact that Disney employees tend to be a little better looking than average, then add in the teenage hormones and lack of parental supervision. I suppose it makes sense.

>> ^jmd:

Chaos, not so much. Gladiator fights doesn't seem like the type of thing that would make a robber re-offend. infact stuff like this could be considered a good deterrent. I don't find it unusual for private jail facilities. The government is always known for its inability to streamline cost, so there is money to be made by doing just that. Unfortunately much like red light cameras, once something is moved out of official hands, they no longer want anything to do with it, no official supervision. Eventually corruption weaves its way in with the lure of money and this happens.
Just like red light cameras, I am fine with privatization of correctional facilities, but I am severely dissapointed in the lack of oversight, because even those with the best of intentions eventually do something wrong if not supervised and this is one of the areas where you cant fck up...even just once.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eNrgpVp70U&NR=1

>> ^jmd:

Chaos, not so much. Gladiator fights doesn't seem like the type of thing that would make a robber re-offend. infact stuff like this could be considered a good deterrent. I don't find it unusual for private jail facilities. The government is always known for its inability to streamline cost, so there is money to be made by doing just that. Unfortunately much like red light cameras, once something is moved out of official hands, they no longer want anything to do with it, no official supervision. Eventually corruption weaves its way in with the lure of money and this happens.
Just like red light cameras, I am fine with privatization of correctional facilities, but I am severely dissapointed in the lack of oversight, because even those with the best of intentions eventually do something wrong if not supervised and this is one of the areas where you cant fck up...even just once.


wait...what?
you are fine with correctional institutions being privatized?
and your main point is streamlining cash?
did i read your comment correctly?

have you even considered the implications of a powerful lobby driven by this privatized institution you have no problem with?
considered how they may use these lobbyists to influence lawmakers?
because an empty cell=NO MONEY!
so it would be in their best interest to lobby for stricter and harsher sentences that include mandatory jail time.
oh wait....
thats riiiight.they already did that didnt they?
or have you never heard of the "3 strikes" rule?
now go look up who pushed for that to be implemented...
notice anything? think thats a coincidence?

america has more people in prison RIGHT NOW than any other country combined.mostly non-violent.
but its so heart-warming to know that you consider a good ass kicking a good "deterrent" for re-offending.
i KNOW!
lets televise these brutal beatings so you can bet actual cash and watch from the comfort of your sofa!

christ on a stick.please tell me your comment was sarcasm.

Chaos, not so much. Gladiator fights doesn't seem like the type of thing that would make a robber re-offend. infact stuff like this could be considered a good deterrent. I don't find it unusual for private jail facilities. The government is always known for its inability to streamline cost, so there is money to be made by doing just that. Unfortunately much like red light cameras, once something is moved out of official hands, they no longer want anything to do with it, no official supervision. Eventually corruption weaves its way in with the lure of money and this happens.

Just like red light cameras, I am fine with privatization of correctional facilities, but I am severely dissapointed in the lack of oversight, because even those with the best of intentions eventually do something wrong if not supervised and this is one of the areas where you cant fck up...even just once.

The kitten is doing what comes naturally to cats.
Supervising.