"to me end result looked a bit naff.

I mean bit of an arse to make but seems a bit tacky I guess you are just gona eat it and its for a buffet table its not really meant to be high art.

this is like the food equivalent of them space spray painted images. only at least this is edible. "

as seen on http://videosift.com/video/Watermelon-carving

Seems westy is of the high art society calibre.

it's anything but senseless. the operative word is DIRECT action. and the ethic is that no person or personal (there's difference between personal and private property) property is destroyed. the targets are clear, financial institutions, multi national corporations, the police, the military. the state. not people or their belongings.

the message is also clear, it's written in spray paint on the sides of barricades. the insight and societal critique is quite clear and easily accessible. there are libraries and warehouses full of the literature, and houses and collectives full of the living message and the people sharing their visions and stories.
what kind of message of does a bunch of stinky kids sitting in a circle send? "we don't like what you're doing, but you said we have to stay here, so ok!" that's not at all productive, and will never change anything. after 3 generations of peaceful sit-in style protests, what the fuck has changed?

this kid did it get right though, the media narrative is designed so that you don't see the message, all you see is "senseless" violence. so the anarchists look like a lynch mob.

i think the black bloc has the target wrong, the media should be the first thing we throw bricks at.

g8/g20 summits are fucking sham/show. the real decisions have already been made else were. waste of money as far as i'm concerned and an ironic one at that seeing as how the stated purpose of this summit was deficit reduction.

i'm all for black blocs and the destruction of property, but there are standards. you don't cause physical harm to anyone, and you don't destroy personal property (there's a difference between private property and personal property... like, it's great to throw bricks at banks but you don't spray paint an innocent civilians house).

i am totally unconcerned with the "destructive minority" "ruining it" for "peaceful protesters". you're "right" to protest is bullshit, "you can say whatever you like as long as you don't disrupt business as usual", if you don't disrupt business as usual then what is the point??? there is a time for direct action and i'm pretty sure now is as urgent a time as any.

as far as agent provocateur's are concerned, SOAR and infoshop are saying no evidence of agent provocateur's this time around as far as they see.
here is the statement from SOAR.
there's more articles about it from the anarchists but i'm too lazy and hurty right now, you can find some on infoshop.org if you care to search.

oh i'd like to see the g8/g20 focus on fucking itself.

i'd go about solving the worlds problems by eliminating the "state" and posing an alternative to rampant capitalism and rejecting authoritarianism and oppression in all forms.

"What's more "procedural" about this carving than a wood carving of a flower? Or a painting of a flower? Do you think Monet didn't have a procedure established when he painted his lilies?"

This is procedural in the same sence as those space spray painted images.
you could probably teach manny people how to do this in a very short peroid of time and get them to replicate it without themselfs having to aply anny real thought to the process.

not that i have a problem with unless sumone was falsly claiming that they invented the process not that that is that important as well.

I never said that this is more or less valid than another thing on a universal level .

I made it very clear that ultimetly if the artist gets enjoyment from it and sumone else dose then it dosent realy matter.

I think you can easily say that the technical ablity / knowlage required for this is less than say carving a convincing face out of wood or stone.
just because something is technically easy to do dosent make it invalid , but it dose make it technicalyt easy to do and there for often times far less impressive to manny people that might have an intrest in technical intrecasy in things , or the merging of technical exicutoin and origonal presentation.

my saying it is naff is my personal subjective view of it from my exsperance of seeing things having looked at ,cakes ,glasss work ,bits of art and abstract work i would think that people that have seen allot of art or maby work in art related fiealds would allso percive it as naff , but maby not.

>> ^BoneRemake:

try not huffing spray paint before you post. ART will seem much clearer when distinctions between minuscule lines and colours are requested. >> ^westy:
to me end result looked a bit naff.
I mean bit of an arse to make but seems a bit tacky I guess you are just gona eat it and its for a buffet table its not really meant to be high art.
this is like the food equivalent of them space spray painted images. only at least this is edible.



I dont understand what you are saying.

and intemrs of the artistic merits of this its a very procedural method to produce this , i dont have an issue with it but i dobt evan the artist rates it realy highely probably just enjoys making roses with water mellons nothing wrong with that .

Interms of complexty and origonalty this dose not rate very highely , but then again thats not to say that sumone might realy enjoy this and the guy making it might realy enjoy it.

I was simply voicing my personal prefrences in that if i was going to do this id probably want to do something more origonal and something that to me would make it more apealing to eat , but if this was intended for a buffet then i can emgin it would go down realy well so its fine for that and again if it makes the guy happy thats making it happy then thats fine as well.

Thanks for sharing. To tear yourself away from curating at the Louvre for a few moments just to inform us that this watermelon would never have a home in your galleries is a little disappointing, but I still thank you for your brutal honesty. Is there any field of interest you're NOT an expert in? (I hear you're a good joke teller.) >> ^westy:

to me end result looked a bit naff.
I mean bit of an arse to make but seems a bit tacky I guess you are just gona eat it and its for a buffet table its not really meant to be high art.
this is like the food equivalent of them space spray painted images. only at least this is edible.

try not huffing spray paint before you post. ART will seem much clearer when distinctions between minuscule lines and colours are requested. >> ^westy:

to me end result looked a bit naff.
I mean bit of an arse to make but seems a bit tacky I guess you are just gona eat it and its for a buffet table its not really meant to be high art.
this is like the food equivalent of them space spray painted images. only at least this is edible.

to me end result looked a bit naff.

I mean bit of an arse to make but seems a bit tacky I guess you are just gona eat it and its for a buffet table its not really meant to be high art.

this is like the food equivalent of them space spray painted images. only at least this is edible.

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The first time I saw someone creating a spray paint "artwork" I was amazed. I thought the guy doing it had created his own style. He was doing a scene in outer space with a couple planet and using magazine pages to create textures.

Then I saw it everywhere. Then I thought less of the "art" form.

>> ^maximillian:

We believe in spray paint!!!
What if people like to "fit" in? Also, I see lots of people I wouldn't consider pandering to the norm. I don't really care what they do.
Many of your manifesto statements try to impose YOUR views on others. Isn't that being hypocritical?
Finally, in a society you need a basic set of guidelines so people will get along. I don't want someone trashing my landscape with spray paint. Equally, I could also do less with advertising billboards. So please not this crap off.


Hello Maximilian, they did not trash any landscape or write on any city walls.
They just cross print billboards without dirting anything that should be live for a long time.
Their manifesto, is a point of view, they are not imposing anything different of what you or other would like to follow.
If you think be stupid or do not eat enought is a right way to live, they are not judging you.
If you read their blog, thay are not against advertising or rules ( and i cannot say "be stupid" is a rule that i have to follow): they are against a certain way to do communication and to approach audience.

We believe in spray paint!!!

What if people like to "fit" in? Also, I see lots of people I wouldn't consider pandering to the norm. I don't really care what they do.

Many of your manifesto statements try to impose YOUR views on others. Isn't that being hypocritical?

Finally, in a society you need a basic set of guidelines so people will get along. I don't want someone trashing my landscape with spray paint. Equally, I could also do less with advertising billboards. So please not this crap off.

It has to be high art. I mean, they guys is sitting in what is probably a small, unventilated room, huffing spray paint all day. I bet he's wrecked.

@kronosposeidon: I think what you're trying to say is that whether it's a spray painted planet on cardboard, an abstract splatter painting, or a Da Vinci, there's an iconic value that makes art worthwhile to understand and/or emulate.