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Should videosift allow images in comments? (User Poll by oritteropo)

dannym3141 says...

This is so bang on in every way. I can think of a few occasions that it might be worthwhile - for example when serious discussions are going on it'd be nice to be able to post figures (graphs, plots) from literature, but that's only ever happened to me once and to be honest it might even be more beneficial to the discussion if people have to be invested to the degree of opening other links and skimming to relevant bits.

The memes would be a plague. I've no problem with memes, or even using memes to get a point across. But the kind of ridiculous crap that sits in top rated comments on facebook would just kill any desire i have for conversation. They're click-bait, so anyone can instantly take a like or dislike to it because you can take it on different levels - ironic, satirical, or just flat out face value. So a harmless joke could turn into something other people see as abhorrent, perhaps even forever there with 15 comment votes, under their own video and nothing they can do about it.

We can link memes. People just have to click first - and that's a really introductory level of commitment to reading a comment i think i snobbishly encourage.

messenger said:

I'm not a fan. I don't think this is possible at any star level of the Sift to get even 10% of the images posted to be more beneficial than harmful to conversations. Using other people's images to make your own point discourages thought, and our required level of commitment to at least verbalizing your arguments yourself is one of the key ingredients that makes this such a great community.

@eric3579 has mentioned several times that there's little advantage to it. If there aren't any advantages and there are obvious predictable disadvantages, then it's a bad idea. Can anybody give examples of embedded images in comments that would benefit the Sift to such a degree that they outweigh the obvious negatives?

As @dag has said, it'll mostly be imgr etc. memes. These images are usually meant to end conversations, not foster them, so once an image like that has been dropped into a thread, it's not likely anybody will continue talking on that thread (within the comment stream).

Allowing images would encourage people to do a quick drive-by chirp or just be funny rather than actually engage. If someone posts a meme answer, I can't very well quote the meme and ask them to elaborate, nor will I waste my time explaining how I disagree with it.

I've had lots of engaging conversations with people I disagree with on the Sift because we have to use words. If those people had used a meme instead as a shortcut to their own more precise idea, they wouldn't have been forced to articulate themselves, and I wouldn't have answered.

So, no, not at any level.

Cockneys vs zombies

Alien_concept gets crown, royal consort (British Talk Post)

Deano says...

I just looked at that first link. They say she's a "commoner" and "middle-class". Her background would make her bloody posh compared to 99% of the population. Only the Royals could get snobbish about someone like that.


>> ^kronosposeidon:

>> ^jan:
Not really a Queen, from net search
After her marriage to Prince William of Wales, Kate Middleton's title will be Her Royal Highness Princess William of Wales. On the engagement announcement, Kate used her full name, Catherine. So she will likely be known as Princess Catherine of Wales.
If Prince William receives a dukedom following the marriage, she will be known as Duchess as well as Her Royal Highness.

When Prince William becomes King, his wife, Kate Middleton, will be Queen.

http://bit.ly/9BYztO
http://tiny.cc/kcl8f
http://bit.ly/9guct1
Until Kate becomes Queen, let the courtiers decide her exact title and the pecking order at Buckingham Palace. In this palace, AC will be Queen tout de suite!

Comedian almost has a breakdown assembling an IKEA dresser

kceaton1 says...

@shuac I agree with you. Everything now days has been simplified a bit. Trying to build a copy of the IKEA cabinet from scratch might have been funnier. Of course, I like to put together far more complicated PCs and even PCs have been dumb down. Snobbish?

Although, the hand was rather great.

Homeschooling FTW (Blog Entry by dag)

xxovercastxx says...

>> ^direpickle:

>> ^xxovercastxx:
Not in the US, at least in my experience. Religious schools here tend to want to cherrypick education so as not to conflict with the Bible. Remember, here the "elites" are portrayed as arrogant and un-American by the religious right. "Real Americans" have mediocre educations, love God and work a blue-collar job.
>> ^RedSky:
Aren't religious schools more likely to be snobbish/elitist private schools than are public schools of meeting those standards? That's certainly the case here and might help explain those numbers.


I don't know what religious schools you're talking about, but that is absolutely the opposite of how Catholic schools tend to be run.


That's exactly how my step-sister's Catholic school was run. That's also one of the reasons she was pulled out and sent to public school

Homeschooling FTW (Blog Entry by dag)

direpickle says...

>> ^xxovercastxx:

Not in the US, at least in my experience. Religious schools here tend to want to cherrypick education so as not to conflict with the Bible. Remember, here the "elites" are portrayed as arrogant and un-American by the religious right. "Real Americans" have mediocre educations, love God and work a blue-collar job.
>> ^RedSky:
Aren't religious schools more likely to be snobbish/elitist private schools than are public schools of meeting those standards? That's certainly the case here and might help explain those numbers.



I don't know what religious schools you're talking about, but that is absolutely the opposite of how Catholic schools tend to be run.

Homeschooling FTW (Blog Entry by dag)

xxovercastxx says...

Not in the US, at least in my experience. Religious schools here tend to want to cherrypick education so as not to conflict with the Bible. Remember, here the "elites" are portrayed as arrogant and un-American by the religious right. "Real Americans" have mediocre educations, love God and work a blue-collar job.

>> ^RedSky:

Aren't religious schools more likely to be snobbish/elitist private schools than are public schools of meeting those standards? That's certainly the case here and might help explain those numbers.

Homeschooling FTW (Blog Entry by dag)

dag says...

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag. (show it anyway)

If my job entailed sitting in a room with 35 other 41 year olds, while being lectured by someone much older- for most of the day, I would probably slit my wrists. I don't see how the artificial, forced school environment prepares people for anything but a life a drudgery.
>> ^RedSky:

@dag
But isn't that a better reflection of general working life and outside-school society in general? Unless you are able to get a job where you are wholly or mostly self-sufficient, you'll have to face this reality eventually.
@xxovercastxx
Aren't religious schools more likely to be snobbish/elitist private schools than are public schools of meeting those standards? That's certainly the case here and might help explain those numbers.
What annoys me about school in general, especially in the early years 1 to 7 here in Australia, is the sheer amount of time wasted learning and repeating basic concepts at a turtle's pace. Finally when it half-kicks into gear by year 8, again in year 11 to 12, and then for real in university you realise just how much time you've wasted doing nothing productive.

Homeschooling FTW (Blog Entry by dag)

RedSky says...

@dag

But isn't that a better reflection of general working life and outside-school society in general? Unless you are able to get a job where you are wholly or mostly self-sufficient, you'll have to face this reality eventually.

@xxovercastxx

Aren't religious schools more likely to be snobbish/elitist private schools than are public schools of meeting those standards? That's certainly the case here and might help explain those numbers.

What annoys me about school in general, especially in the early years 1 to 7 here in Australia, is the sheer amount of time wasted learning and repeating basic concepts at a turtle's pace. Finally when it half-kicks into gear by year 8, again in year 11 to 12, and then for real in university you realise just how much time you've wasted doing nothing productive.

Stephen Colbert speaks to the House Immigration Comittee

dannym3141 says...

>> ^smooman:

>> ^dannym3141:
I have to say that i find the man unbearable and entirely without humour
Satire can be devastating (see mitchell and webb), but this? Ugh, cringeworthy to me.

didnt know Channel's "Snobbish Pretention" fragrance was on the market yet. Thought I smelled something cringe-worthy


I take it there's no fragrance to aid with joke making.

Stephen Colbert speaks to the House Immigration Comittee

smooman says...

>> ^dannym3141:

I have to say that i find the man unbearable and entirely without humour
Satire can be devastating (see mitchell and webb), but this? Ugh, cringeworthy to me.


didnt know Channel's "Snobbish Pretention" fragrance was on the market yet. Thought I smelled something cringe-worthy

Are Americans Dumb?

PostalBlowfish says...

Yes. There are stupid people everywhere, but this is rather embarrassing. "He's from Texas, he's got to be right." Texas, go and die please. We've had just about enough of your snobbishness.

Widescreen VS Pan&Scan in cinema

kceaton1 says...

>> ^dag:
^Well, I don't have a TV- just my iMac. real estate counts for a bit more when you are on a small screen.
If it's something epic like 2001 I would not stretch it. If it's something like "Semi-Pro", then fill my screen please. Also, the Mac is widescreen already, so it's not much of a stretch.
You guys are like coffee snobs.


A Mac owner complaining about someone being snobbish, hurr...

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Coffee Snobbery (Blog Entry by dag)

videosiftbannedme says...

^The above exchange really made me lol, so naturally had to upvote both.

As for coffee snobbery, I suppose you'd really get that anywhere. People, for whatever reason, feel the incessant need to 1) let others know their opinion, and 2) make sure that the listener knows that their opinion is correct. Case in point....this post I just wrote.

But where as I can do so without the least bit of snobbery (well, now that I just wrote that, it does sound a bit snobbish), coffee-bitch can't. Ah well...what can you do? Here's to your cup o' Joe, Dag.

Lets use grammar bad (Terrible Talk Post)

EDD says...

^double-engrishified from original (which makes _some_ sense, still):

I do not know whether it should do. Think - if the new user coming here, he intended that this idiot, or just staying snobbish elitists. I'm on the correct use of the English language is always and in all cases.



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