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The American Dream

The American Dream

VideoSift 3.2 Roundtable thread (Sift Talk Post)

doogle says...

I am reflecting on my past year as a member on the Sift (and 2 years of using VideoSift) and the sections and functions I frequent...
Sorry about the length. Hope you guys find this useful.

I know there's a lot of wild stuff, but instead of self-censoring/limiting, I thought I would put it all out there and see what can happen.

Suggested Changes:

  • disable the number verification code after a user is no longer Probationary
  • Long as a channel
  • Change right pane (see below)
  • Remove the mid-page blocks like 'feeds' or something. (Are there stats on the use of these things? Are they effective?)
  • "Subscribe to user", they show up on your "Your VideoSift" page

Suggested Commenting functionality
  • I'd like to see a toolbar of clickable in-text invocations (maybe using a logo?) that can change by adding more or less depending on the user star level. (Perhaps even a basic GUI?)
  • Power Points in-tab (on the top) moved to above the comment fill-in box with a number to say how many you have left, gets updated. The invocations (like *.beg and *.promote) would grey-out if there are not enough power points left.

Suggested Ajax add-ons:
  • Integrate a "Quicklist" functionality
    • Like adding videos to a temporary playlist "play queue", lasts for 2 days, with option to save. (I am always adding tabs with videos I will eventually watch...)

Suggested Right pane management:
  • Allow for users to specify what blocks appear, check boxes? Ajax/movable boxes (à la Drupal/iGoogle?)

Suggested Main menu tab list:
It's growing - and maybe facing growing pains, but some of these items are similar.
I see sift-related tabs, community-supporting tabs and user-specific tabs.
Perhaps a two-rowed tabs would be better?
I know there is already a pseudo-2nd row there right now...these items (Submit a video, Support) should be gathered into a box in the right pane as they do not change with the tab (gives a false sense of tab-specific functionality)

I suggest the following break-down of 4 Main tabs (more like 3 + search) and tab-specific Second tab menu hierarchy:
  • "The Sift"
    • Home (default)
    • Unsifted (sorted by:)
    • Date (default)
    • Dynamic dropdowns: Votes: From:(1-9) to (2-10)
    • Users in my friend list
    • Top
    • Hot
    • "ReSift" (Beggar's Canyon)(The beggar's canyon is difficult for newbies and even commoners to fully grasp. Plus I can't see how having the word "Beggar's" is good on any collaborative/community site)
    • Channels (form drop down list in the menu section, and a page with boxes of the channels and the usual Personal+Overall Top Channel)

  • "Open an account!"
    No sense in having public users access the community if they do not have a user account, right? Plus also it just may confuse anonymous/public users to see playlists and the talk pages and the blogs when all they want to see are videos.
    I suggest anonymous/public users see a tab that says "Open an account", and when they do, they see the following two tabs:


  • "Community"
    • Playlists
    • Talk
    • Blogs

  • "Your VideoSift"
    • Playlists
    • Blog (if applicable)
    • Comments
    • Account
      • Settings, etc.

    • Submit a video
    • ...

  • "Search"
    (this is always good to have everywhere)

Stars Ranking order names (The "Second-to-last section, I swear" section)
This may be just opinion, but I think the stars ranking can be more logical. If using the theme Bronze, Silver, Gold,, then continue as such: Bronze Diamond, Silver Diamond, Gold Diamond, Bronze Crown,. I know, it's just the Gold 100 that throws it all off, but I wonder if there are others scratching their heads as to whre the Gold Diamond is.

Bonus! Last section! Siftbot!
Perhaps added invocations, using a separate invocation character (#perhaps?) for users with stars Gold and above to request information on a video from Siftbot. Like #dead to find out if the video has been dead before, how many times, and when was the last.
Perhaps there should be a dynamic drop down (uses css:visible call) for users to 'sift-out' invocation responses from Siftbot. These can be lengthy.

OH NO! Another one? Please stop! [Facebook thumbnail]
Gotta fix the thumbnail embed when people post on Facebook. I share stuff on Videosift with friends on Facebook, and VS (or Facebook) never gets the thumbnail right. It's a slew of other videos, or I can use the VS logo. If this could be fixed, I (and others I'm sure) wouldn't have to get the original YouTube URL (or whatever source) to share on Facebook (and perhaps other social networking sites?).

TED Talks: Robert Wright

Suck on that, Videosift! I got Achmed sifted!

siftbot says...

Tags for this video have been changed from 'the system has failed, siftbot is dead, achmed is friends with cadillac' to 'the system has failed, siftbot is dead, achmed is friends with cadillac, more tags' - edited by Laekroth

Simpsons, Family Guy, Futurama deads (Sift Talk Post)

MINK says...

isn't it possible for siftbot to dead things automatically somehow? i mean i'm sure you've thought of that but i just thought i'd ask, seems a silly job for a human to have to do, click... wait for data... dead if no data...

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