Wow, nice tentacly work after the hiatus, gotta catch up with your gr8 posts:)
Cheers!

>> ^handmethekeysyou:
Now all I have to do is hop in the car, drive to a hardware store, buy a wet/dry shop vac, come back home, steal someone's pantyhose (I hate that word and I hate their existence, for the record), and voila! So easy! Thanks handyman douchebag.


I agree with your dislike for pantyhose, as well. For instance, these two scenarios involving an attempt at roleplay during an average day after work:

"Take off yer pantyhose, lady."
"No way, pervert!"
"I hate it when you call me a pervert, honey."

"Drop yer panties, lady."
"Okay, sir!"
"Yeah, I like when you call me sir."

In one scenario, the woman (your wife, girlfriend, or secretary) is coming home from work (or is at work if it's your secretary) and doesn't want to mess around. Pantyhose is for work, not play.

In the second scenario, the woman is in a more casual state, wearing panties, rather than the full hose, and will enjoy it if you tell her to drop them.

However, there is one additional scenario (the best one, imo):

"Drop yer panties, baby."
"I don't have any panties to drop."
"Oh, snap!"

This is my own justification for disliking pantyhose and in return disliking the word itself.

Pantyhose: bad
Panties: good
No panties: excellent

And it's *dead now. Damnit. Someone roleplay it for me.

Boy, am I late to the punch here. Still, I think I might be able to add something deconstructive here (uh, sure) so batter up...

1. Porn cultivates good relationships.

As was mentioned somewhere above in this giant mass of thread, it can be a nice addition to an existing relationship, to get the old mind-juices flowing and liven up the old sex life. Sort of like eating vanilla cake, but then eating the same vanilla cake for years, and then realizing you can put strawberries on it, and all of a sudden vanilla cake with strawberries is the best thing you've ever eaten.

2. Porn is for men who sincerely appreciate the beauty of the female body.

I'd agree that this is a myth, except that I don't know anyone who thinks this, and it misses the point. Porn is for getting yourself excited in that special way that makes you feel all warm inside when you don't have a person to get you all warm on the outside too. Among other things. Of course, sex is mainly mental to begin with, so appreciation of beautiful bodies helps.

3. Porn is harmless and it has no negative effect on the person using it.

I also drink alcohol and curse.

4. Strippers and porn stars lead glamorous lives, and men respect them.

Glamorous? Maybe on screen, but there's effort involved -- Porn is hard work, you know. I don't know any strippers or porn stars personally, so I can't say I respect or disrespect any of them. I'm trying to be funny here, but this "myth" is so far off base I'm having trouble linking it back to reality. Come on, throw me a bone here!

5. Men like variety in women so porn use helps a man stay faithful to his woman.

You know, I think you're getting your information from a questionable source. This list isn't "Common myths about porn," it's "lame excuses men tell their wives to justify watching porn in a sitcom." Though as a man, I do like variety, so I recommend roleplay. You know what I'm talking about; I've already explained that strawberry thing.

6. Women who get involved in the porn industry choose to do so, and they have valuable careers.

"Everybody needs money! That's why they call it money!"
Too bad I've only seen the first hour of The Heist. This one I can't really argue with, but only because it's true about every career. This has been pointed out above, but just like anything else, there's people who have a career and there's people who just have a job. Then there's people without a job, and without a career, and there's people who have tons of money and just drive around all day looking for things to throw money at, and now I'm completely off track.

7. Porn is an outlet or safety valve for men who would otherwise do Bad Things.

This is patently false. Everyone knows the safety valve for men who would otherwise do Bad Things is video games. Except it always goes HORRIBLY WRONG. And then students end up getting hurt because other students were playing those MURDER SIMULATORS all day. Won't anyone think of the children? Why does no-one listen to Jack Thompson!? Oh wait I'm off topic again.

8. Women who work in porn are empowered and sexually liberated.

Damn I'm having trouble making this stuff funny. You know what, I'm going to pass on this one.

9. Porn is just a fantasy and people do not apply it to real life.

Completely false. I watched a porn once where a guy has sex with three women in the span of fifteen minutes, but then the guy turns into a girl and the three women turn into a tiger, a monsterous tentacle beast, and a plant. Then the girl has to run away from the tiger, but she's trying to make out with the plant, and the tentacle beast is just busy eating popcorn. I know this is not fantasy because it happened to me when I was 19.

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So there you have it. As a bonus, since this thread is about porn myths, I feel it only appropriate to add a few of my own myths about porn that are harmful to people.

10. Sexual partners always climax at the same time, even if they've just met.

11. Sex is always satisfying, and everyone feels loads of sexual pleasure effortlessly.

12. Sex is always accompanied by an appropriate soundtrack.

13. The quality of any sexual act is directly proportional to the amount of noise both sexual partners make.

14. The only appropriate things to say during sex are "Give it to me," "Oh yeah baby," and "Yes, yes, yes." Moaning is also appropriate.

15. The best way to get a woman to sleep with you is to be a domineering asshole. Wait a minute...

So despite the fact that nobody will mistake me for a professional comedian, I've hopefully made you laugh just a bit. Because one of the best things to do when confronted with an emotionally charged topic (oh crap he's getting serious, why don't I have a dental appointment lined up) is to laugh at it a bit and take the edge off. Judging from previous replies to this thread, I think a bunch of Sifters already get it.

It really is impossible for me to argue with you all because my sense of morality is so different that I'm basically a freak among Sifters. I DO believe that repression of our sexual desires is a bad thing, but sex should never be detached from emotion. Think about it. Everything bad about sex and immmoral sexual acts stems from this separation. When sex becomes something besides a means of expressing love, it deteriorates. It turns into an addiction. It leads to other things. I'm not saying this occurs all of the time or for everybody, but as a society, yes. I believe that sexuality between equal partners is the best way to get sexual release, and that it is the abuse of our sexuality that makes us need more than that. A little fantasy and roleplay and other fun stuff can be great, sure. But I believe that human sexuality can be fully realized by two people. Just them. No strangers. Just two bodies and love and sex. You can do whatever you want to keep it real and exciting, but I don't believe that you should need anybody but your partner for something that intimate. I donno. It makes me feel pretty special that all my partner needs is me. I know that you guys don't agree, and I don't really care. I'm happy. A relationship that is based on emotion rather than sex (and that uses sex as an enhancement of that affection and intimacy and for a bit of fun rather than using the partner as a means to an end) is going to be a stronger and more lasting relationship everytime.

The idea that men are more sexual than women is a chauvenistic principle that has been around for decades and is the cause of the historical sexual repression of women. This woman is not engaging in a sexual act for her own pleasure and satisfaction. She is displaying her sexuality for the enjoyment of others. I don't see this as empowering her in any way, but some feminists would, yes.

Again, the Male Gaze. Men look, women are looked upon.

Loved it, thought he hit the nail on the head regarding the plethora of roleplaying games out there.

Wow. Spending too much time in some solo activity to the detriment of a relationship is one thing, but I love the pseudo-intellectual attempt at 'understanding' videogame players, with the obvious undertone being that any amount of gameplay is not a legitimate form of entertainment. Let's flip it around for a second to reveal the absurdity.

Guy: "Hi Mike, my girlfriend wants to go out to see a movie every night. A movie - EVERY NIGHT! How do I get her to stop?" (look of exasperation)

Host: "Well, it's clear she's trying to roleplay. It's the entire purpose of going to the movies, you know. What was the last movie you saw together? Was it sci-fi?"

Guy: "No."

Host: "She doesn't want to be a space princess, then. What was the genre?"

Girl: "But--"

Guy: "Western."

Girl: "Well, yeah, I mean, sometimes I enjoy a western if it's done right, just like any movie, bu--"

"Ah. Classic cowgirl. That's what she wants, really. Instead of going to the movies, Jane, don't you think you could just slip into some assless leather chaps and spend more time with your boyfriend?"

Tags for this video have been changed from 'awkward, pathetic, cosplay, goth, geisha, rollplay, creepy, sad' to 'awkward, pathetic, cosplay, goth, geisha, roleplay, creepy, sad, stupid gaijin' - edited by calvados

To come up with something like "you're gay, you must enjoy it" is not only sickening, but unforgivably idiotic. Let's be sure to tell the next woman raped that, hey, she's heterosexual, she must have liked it! How depressing.

The last minute or so was thought provoking. Maybe the glorification of the prison fantasy stems from the fact that since those outside the prison system are distanced from the brutal reality of it, being "behind bars" can be viewed as a haven of sexual possibility. I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with such roleplay, BUT, if there's a correlation between the apathy from people regarding rape in prison and the popularisation of the prison sexual fantasy, that implies something much scarier.

ah, this reminds me of
http://www.videosift.com/video/FanimeCon-2004-Roleplayers-explaining-their-powers

This was a fantastic video, i'm only sorry she began running out of time.

BTW, BillOReilly really roleplays our favorite news presenter so well. WD!

It was, not just once but three times, never made it out of the queue.

The poster at YouTube says:

"One of the largest Live action Roleplaying events in Germany 2006. The Orks clash against each other in a battle of strength and honor as all the other factions are watching in fear"