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Ron Paul - Iowa Straw Poll

Fedquip says...

I hate politicians who throw around the "pro-life" talking point to get cheers. Governments fund abortion because if they didnt women would be going into back alleys with coat hangers to get it done. "Pro Life" It's a health issue, by getting rid of roe vs wade aren't you putting more lives in danger? Getting rid of roe vs wade is a step backwards, why should leaders have the power to choose what woman do with their bodies? Giving women less options, less freedom. wtf Ron Paul?

The Real John McCain

joedirt says...

Here comes the double talk express:

* McCain criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell as “an agent of intolerance” in 2002, but has since decided to cozy up to the man who said Americans “deserved” the 9/11 attacks. (Indeed, McCain has now hired Falwell’s debate coach.)

* McCain used to oppose Bush’s tax cuts for the very wealthy, but he reversed course in February.

* In 2000, McCain accused Texas businessmen Sam and Charles Wyly of being corrupt, spending “dirty money” to help finance Bush’s presidential campaign. McCain not only filed a complaint against the Wylys for allegedly violating campaign finance law, he also lashed out at them publicly. In April, McCain reached out to the Wylys for support.

* McCain supported a major campaign-finance reform measure that bore his name. In June, he abandoned his own legislation.

* McCain used to think that Grover Norquist was a crook and a corrupt shill for dictators. Then McCain got serious about running for president and began to reconcile with Norquist.

* McCain took a firm line in opposition to torture, and then caved to White House demands.

* McCain gave up on his signature policy issue, campaign-finance reform, and won’t back the same provision he sponsored just a couple of years ago.

* McCain was against presidential candidates campaigning at Bob Jones University before he was for it.

* McCain was anti-ethanol. Now he’s pro-ethanol.

* McCain was both for and against state promotion of the Confederate flag.

* And now he’s both for and against overturning Roe v. Wade.


I'm guessing Brave New Films is building an "Outfoxed" type documentary on McCain's video clips. www.therealmccain.com

OK, so the Saddam video is officially "out there"... (Sift Talk Post)

Farhad2000 says...

Holding an idealistic view about abolishing capital punishment is one thing, actually implementing such a system state wide is an entirely different thing. I don't see why the state should make citizens pay more taxes to keep criminals in prison for life. Nor do I see citizen accepting such a scheme.

It's the same arguement as anti-abortionists make, they say that it's killing babies and what not. If that is the case, then the state should sanction taxes to citizens to run proper foster homes for abandoned and unwanted children, or better yet families must willingly sponsor a child's education and livelihood. They want to abolish Roe Vs Wade without realizing that it has lead to a marked decrease in the amount of criminal activity (see Freakanomics).

One must look at issues with a realistic mind set. I believe capital punishment still has it's place in our world, it would slowly diminish itself over time as society progresses.

10-Year Olds Need Abortions Too - Debate

rickegee says...

I was struck by that statement too.

She seems to put an inordinate amount of authority on the physician (and outside of Baldwin in Malice - I AM GOD! - I don't think most practitioners want or need that kind of parental authority). I shudder to think about anyone arguing that a 10 year old has the capacity to make that kind of decision.

Nevertheless, I am not sure that raped, parentless 10 year olds seeking abortions is all that commonplace, but who am I to say that O'Reilly is building a stinky ten story man out of dung and straw.

On the other hand, under current abortion laws, females simply don't have the ability to do what they feel is right with a fetus whenever they feel it is right. Even Roe v. Wade provided for certain levels of government regulation per trimester. And now fetal viability is the standard. So it is unquestionably valid for a state to regulate abortion. And it is probably as extreme to treat a fetus merely as a female's temporary organ as it is to say that every abortion is a baby execution.



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