I like Bill Maher and often agree with his views but he doesn't realise that constantly over plugging himself is only funny up to a point. He should watch Ricky Gervais maybe and take notes.

Did anyone watch the last Oscars where he was the presenter for best documentary and shamelessly plugged his mildly entertaining Religulous in between presenting the brilliant nominees? I think that is when I started having a problem with him.

>> ^gwiz665:
Ken Ham is dumber than the average rock.

Your comment is offensive to the dumb rock community.

>> ^gwiz665:
Ken Ham is dumber than the average rock.


And the average rock has one up on him, as rocks do not believe in a father-like figure watching over them.

You have been awarded 1 Power Point for fixing the embed code for Dead Pool video Bill Maher Discusses Religulous on Larry King. (2008). Thank you for helping maintain VideoSift's reliability.

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And is it a dupe of this one or were the embeds changed over time?

It's videos like this that make me remember Bill Maher's interview in Religulous.
You clearly don't need an IQ test to be in the Senate. Or Congress, for that matter.

I wouldn't doubt if some bible belters didn't think this guy was dead on, as ponceleon said. But I bet even outside the belt there would be some who still totally agree with him.

Funny thing is just the other night I was watching Religulous with a friend of me who is Christian. I myself am agnostic with some pretty out-there beliefs, but I'm a realist so I don't take ANYTHING on faith. Now, mind for a christian my friend is pretty much a realist as well. He doesn't believe in Adam and Eve, he knows the most the stories in the bible are totally made up. But at the same time he has some odd beliefs. He thought christianity was the oldest religion in the world at once. He is absolutely certain jesus was a man and all his miracles were true.

Anyway it gets to the part where they are at the museum showing ancient humans and dinosaurs living together as well as one dino with a saddle on it's back. I laughed, saying these people had to be complete ostriches with their heads in the sand to even SAY they believe dinosaurs and humans lived together. What does my friend say to this?

"Well, there may have been one time when like raptors and tyranosaurs lived at the same time that early humans did."

As you might imagine.. I was somewhat taken a back. Even explaining to him that dinosaurs died out or evolved tens of millions of years before the earliest ancestors of humans even existed. But he said to me 'the bible says there were dinosaurs so, there must have been.'

I rolled my eyes.. I wasn't about to argue farther but I couldn't believe me ears. How can a modern, rational, technically minded human being believe this stuff? He was raised very hard-core christian but still.

*killed, in accordance with this comment.

This has been discussed before. *return

>> ^AceOfKidneys:
no, that's wrong. Swimming 5 hours a day is MUCH healthier then smoking weed, AT ANY POINT, IN ANY POOL, in comparison TO ANY WEED.
I've been a toker for about 5 or 6 years, everyday, excessively and I've had to stop recently because I became a pathetic, lazy, non-contributing member of society, not to mention socially awkward, and often paranoid, and I doubt I could say the say if I spent all that time exercising.
I'm not going to say that chlorine isn't bad for you, but you can't say marijuana's better for you than TAP WATER, when you have no scientific reasoning to back it up, sounds a little religulous doesn't it?


By the way, I agree for Phelps not saying anything about this, lets remember, he himself did not apologize, his publicists did, and besides that, I don't think Phelps should become a marijuana advocate, because he doesn't know any god damn thing about it. I agree with the legalization of ALL drugs, but I am a even stronger supported of EDUCATING people about drugs, like Bill maher.
PS, please don't say I don't know what I am talking about, a couple of months ago, I would be shouting at the comments I just made, but we can't just blindly follow lifestyles because someone else is telling us not to, we can keep being dogs.


Nobody is here saying you should sit on your ass all day and toke up for years. Pot, like anything else, yes even swimming 5 hours a day, can have detrimental effects from over-use. And yes even swimming will have negative side-effects long term. Nobody is saying that swimming for 5 hours is worse then smoking pot for 5 hours. But over long term their is a plethora of scientific research that shows that it can, particularly with Chlorine. Obviously a glass of water isn't going to hurt you, but consuming gallons of chlorine over years is VERY bad for your health as Chlorine is one of the most dangerous carcinogens that we consume, most of us multiple times daily.

Mahr is a major advocate for legalization, I'm sure he knows a great deal about the subject. Again I agree with you that Education is very important, though personally I would be against voting for all drugs personally. But there is zero sense in the criminalization of personal use of pot. In moderation of course.

Shit when Phelps got in a car accident after drinking and driving 4 or 5 years ago there was less of an outcry and he got into less trouble over it. He didn't even loose a sponsor. But a picture of him smoking a bong some years ago.. thats the worst damn crime he could have committed apparently.

no, that's wrong. Swimming 5 hours a day is MUCH healthier then smoking weed, AT ANY POINT, IN ANY POOL, in comparison TO ANY WEED.

I've been a toker for about 5 or 6 years, everyday, excessively and I've had to stop recently because I became a pathetic, lazy, non-contributing member of society, not to mention socially awkward, and often paranoid, and I doubt I could say the say if I spent all that time exercising.

I'm not going to say that chlorine isn't bad for you, but you can't say marijuana's better for you than TAP WATER, when you have no scientific reasoning to back it up, sounds a little religulous doesn't it?


By the way, I agree for Phelps not saying anything about this, lets remember, he himself did not apologize, his publicists did, and besides that, I don't think Phelps should become a marijuana advocate, because he doesn't know any god damn thing about it. I agree with the legalization of ALL drugs, but I am a even stronger supported of EDUCATING people about drugs, like Bill maher.

PS, please don't say I don't know what I am talking about, a couple of months ago, I would be shouting at the comments I just made, but we can't just blindly follow lifestyles because someone else is telling us not to, we can keep being dogs.

Thanks so much for your reply, Doc. I'll just make some small points and leave you to you and yours.

Your scam anecdote is an interesting one, and as a scientist I'm sure you'll understand when I point out that the vast majority of people do not understand or appreciate the value of chance and coincidence in their daily lives. However, the majority of those people don't believe in chance or coincidence either. What happens is a "plan" or simply placed there by something unexplainable.

As fantastic as your prayer and sign may be I'd simply recommend reconsidering that you were going to get that email regardless. A far more obvious sign from god would have been an email whose contents actually contained a message from god, IE: "Doc you asked for for your account to be cancelled if it were wrong and it is, therefore I have had the company in charge of it deactivate it. Signed, The Lord."

I'm sure you can see where I'm coming from here. Another good example is in Bill Maher's movie Religulous when he's talking to "The Ex-Jew for Jesus" and that man said when he held his empty glass outside and prayed for rain for a drink and it rained he considered that a miracle for the existence of Christ. Bill's response was excellent when he pointed out that if he asked for rain and it rained he'd realize that, hey "It sometimes rains!". Now if it rained frogs he and I both would take pause and consider that to be a miracle. (Even though, as a scientist, I'm sure you know of the meterological phenomenom which has caused it to rain small frogs and fish in the just the last century,)

I also do not understand how someone as schooled as yourself can take the Old Testament as "fact". There is still no archeological evidence what-so-ever for Jews being used as slaves in ancient Egypt. And for a civilization that kept such excellent records of everything (I once had a fundie-xtian tell me they wouldn't document a "Jew slave rebellion") they might make a small note that an entire race under their command left them after a series of miracles befell the Kingdom.

And on the idea of Jesus dying for everyone's sins (which I know full well about; I was raised Protestant and, no I don't hate Christians or Christianity, I am concerned for their mental health and well being) I just think that it is a little too presumptuous if you catch my meaning. God creates original sin (which many in the church now say is just symbolism) then sends his only son to die for all of man's sin (including the "symbolical" original sin). No one asked for this, God merely forces it on us. Then attemps to guilt us into being saved by this Christ Figure (who has the exact same story as countless other Christ figures before his time) or else!.

But, hey, as I've pointed out I'm an Agnostic Atheist. The scientist in me sees no evidence for the existence of a god or god, therefore I don't believe. I've read the Bible front to back, as well as the Quran and other "holy" texts. They all read the same (aside from some Hindu scripture). And as an Agnostic I don't know if there is a god or gods because the evidence hasn't presented itself yet. Maybe if a miracle of such unexplainable value descends into my life I'd start believing, but it certainly wouldn't be the Christian god of the Bible. Why you might ask? Because the Bible is rife with contradictions, errors, hypocrisies and historical fallacies. And if "God" wanted that book to be written I'm sorry to say he might be a little bi-polar and attention deficit disorder.

And thanks for the 100 Star congrats!

In reply to this comment by Doc_M:
Hello my furry-hatted friend:
First off, you can read this in brief reply to you comment:
http://www.videosift.com/video/Dawkins-Conversing-Badly-A-Converted-Muslim#comment-625934

I'll now continue in private.

I see that you are (by your profile) rather read in science. Fantastic! Few are these days. I may be a Christian but I'm also a scientist as a profession atm. Many see that as either insane or hypocritical, but I can flatten that argument every time people land it on me in person, mwahaha. As for my life:

I once had a scam going where I could trick multiple "ad-bars" (those advertising bars that would stay on your screen and paid you per active minute) into thinking that I was "active" all freaking day every day even though obviously I was sleeping or in class most of the time. One night I felt convicted and prayed asking "if this is wrong, just cancel my account." I arose that morning and checked my email to find that my account WAS CANCELED DUE TO ABUSE... That very morning. That very day. It could have been that very instant.
I realized my behavior was theft and I stopped it. This has happened once more since! Instantaneous evidence.

In addition, if you look at the evidence for when and who wrote what book in the bible, you'll find that the majority of scholars support the "old testament before new testament" history. That continues to say that the prophecies and foreshadowing of the old testament is a valid justification to say that the new testament is valid as well.

People who hate Christianity are often simply misinformed. Jesus did not die as a sin sacrifice for "good" people or for "christian" people or for "generous" people. He died for ALL people, free of charge, should they only accept it. God is good, but God is just, and for some things death is just, and Jesus spent that punishment for us all. All we need do is believe that the price is paid for us in Jesus. The justice has been dealt to Jesus on our behalf. That is by no means insane. That makes legal sense. It makes human sense. It makes honorable sense. No new dedication is required.

Also, grats on 100 stars.

In reply to this comment by Raigen:
I would be extremely interested to know the evidence you've witnessed that makes you a believer. And why Dawkins is a douchebag. Send me a PM if you like.

>> ^Doc_M:
Well my friend. I've looked at the evidence and I believe. Cook that in your oven. I'm an inch away from Ph.D. and Dawkins is so plainly a D-bag, it almost makes him the definition of such.

didn't see "Religulous" yet, and Maher is just another American who knows the real badasses of the cause are always near (Dawkins and such), but he's not that bad, in fact he's route is coherent - make fun of all the pseudo-populist-slash-ignorant side of religion.

For some serious bizness with not a hint of mockery, sadism or vulgarism towards religion, but plain ole Reason, i recommend this documentary from BBC4 called "Brief History of Disbelief". When I was told about it, I immediately sensed the win in it from the title. I imagine to not be the only one.

>> ^Farhad2000:
You people need to stop being self righteous about this being a documentary or not. Did you even watch it fully?
Maher says himself from the start, that its an exploration of faith from his standpoint. What he believes and why he thinks it is dangerous in our time.


It took the whole thread for someone to point that out?

I didn't like the movie all that much either but I didn't take it as anything other than Bill up there venting either, if I remember right he said he didn't expect to change any minds with it. Just to start conversations. Never even occurred to me to see it as a documentary rather than him up there venting a bit, an extended production of one of the same types of rants that you might see on his TV show. Either you like him or you don't, that isn't going to change much for doing it feature length instead of as a bit.

Honesty and seeking to provoke thought? you fell for it. It was never about that. (and im not defending it, I could not even finish watching that crap)

It's a comedian doing a 'documentary' *brain explodes*

>> ^stephenfryftw:
oh mauz, I don't expect any of that. What I do expect from a movie that ostensibly seeks to provoke thought from the mind of its audience, is fucking honesty, that's what I expect. That, and maybe, just maybe, the assumption by the film maker that little old me, the viewer, just happens to be in possession of an attention span that ever so slightly exceeds the premature ejaculatory doomed coital duration of a freshman on his first post-game back-seat feel-up.



PS: VERY sad how this 'documentary' gets (and probably will get) more votes than all the real ones lolz
This is as much of a documentary as 'what the bleep do we know?' or 'the Secret'