Public transit as well as PCL (Greyhoundish bus line) offer service into Victoria from Swartz Bay. You get tickets for PCL right on board near the start of the voyage, in the forward lounge. The rental car companies from the Victoria Airport locations MAY come out to pick you up free. Don't quote me on that, but they're the closest to the terminal.

These are great! I love the shark and the dj. A person holding that bag with the gun better watch out when walking into a bank though... or anywhere... actually the more I think about that one the more it worries me considering the point is to make it as real of an illusion as possible.
My cities public transit system just got a few new buses that have been circulating around lately. None of them have any advertisments on them yet and its been VERY refreshing to see something thats advertisment free in the city for once.

It's clear from the length and content of this discussion that customers are never satisfied and trains are a menace to society. I think we can make everyone happier by eliminating public transit altogether and having everyone drive everywhere, thereby putting each person in control of their own transportation.

Since moving to New York, I pay $86 a month for public transit. 9 times out of 10 it's faster than a car or a cab. I love it. No insurance payment, no car payment, no gas, no maintenance. Of course, I don't really have any money left after that whole "living in New York" thing.

nice clip.. not sure what its originally from though. Japan has a huge problem with old men groping young girls on public transit. They have special women only cars on trains now to help prevent it.

Its not uncommon to see men packing down gallons of beer and reading anime-porn on their commute home from work. Obviously for the less controlled individual, that could lead to some problems.

J-Rova - you think 170 cars would be quieter?

I'm glad to live in Toronto where I have a public transit system that, despite it faults, rocks hard. The city shuts down without the TTC.

And the government is actually opening its eyes and realizing we need more mass-transit lines... the future could be bright for Toronto if they don't screw it all up.

As for smelly people, random hobos on the streetcar are rather rare. I encounter one maybe every year or two. Not a bad rate - I see more on the street!

Take it from me. I'm from Portland and the public transit system has a long way to go. I live in New York now and I am amazed by the system set up here.

God it's good to see Portland.

A few words on living in Portland:

Portland is 100' over sea level. It has very mild winters with the temperature rarely dropping under freezing. It tends to snow here about three times a year, and the snow actually sticks maybe once, maybe not.

Because of the relative rarity of real snow - and ice for that matter - few people in Portland buy chains or snow tires. It's a different matter when you head east, out toward Mt. Hood (view from Portland), where traction devices are required during the winter on various roads. Here, in the city, though, people just don't bother.

Driving in rain is something Portlanders understand. Driving on snow is an alien concept. They just don't get the amount of time necessary to build experience at it.

Me, I grew up in Massachusetts. I keep chains, a shovel, a tow rope, and a few bags of sand in my pickup every winter. Well... every winter except this one. See, I have a new vehicle, and haven't fitted it for chains yet. Frankly, it doesn't really matter. When it snows here, they only plow the major roads. If you don't live on one of them, you're SOL for driving. The public transit is one option - they do chain those beasts up - but that still requires walking a decent distance through the snow to get out to a bus. Most people in the city don't do that, and if you're commuting from a suburb, that might mean walking a few miles.

I suppose the questions are:

* How much money does the city lose each year by having so many businesses shut down?

* How much would it cost to outfit a larger fleet of plows and pay the hourly wages necessary?

* How much does the insurance company lose by having to pay out for all that damage? How much do they stand to make in the long run with increased premiums?

Ill, but enjoying my snow day anyway,
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