surely if there are enough people out there who know how to do this, the banks should get their finger out of their Ass and add some real security measures?

biometrics: fingerprint or signature (easy to fake a signature, but almost impossible to fake the pressure points you create when you write your signature and the speed you write it)

This conversation is over. You aren't even reading any of what I said. Nothing of what I said is even disputable.

Pressure Points exist. IE spots on the body where the nerves are especially sensitive to physical manipulation.

Chemicals in our body that can induce altered states do exist. IE hormones. I did not specify which altered state.

There are also many ways to release the chemicals and hormones in the body. Dying releases a chemical. Eating a hot pepper releases a chemical. Drinking suppresses a hormone. Exercise releases causes chemicals to be released.

Perhaps acupuncture can as well.

I said nothing about the validity of the beliefs behind it.. just that they do seem to coincide with the science of the body we know by other terms.

Stay in school, and stay on videosift. Maybe you'll learn to read.

I donwnvoted you because I'm an asshole and I dont like your tone, plus what you say is contradictory and false.

>> ^rougy:
I don't think it's all bullshit. I think a lot of it probably works.
That "Ice Man" they found in Swiss country many years ago had tattoos on the pressure points well known to accupuncturists. He had herbs in his belly that were very useful for a common sickness (something to do with worms, I think).

Right well... it didn't work for him then, did it?

But seriously... you're not serious right?
Pure fallacious argument from antiquity. Just because an idea like acupuncture has been around along time doesn't mean it is correct. We don't exempt it from testing and possible scientific invalidation just 'cause some Ancient culture has done it for thousands of years.

I don't think it's all bullshit. I think a lot of it probably works.

That "Ice Man" they found in Swiss country many years ago had tattoos on the pressure points well known to accupuncturists. He had herbs in his belly that were very useful for a common sickness (something to do with worms, I think).

Are there hucksters in homeopathy? No doubt!

Are there hucksters in the FDA & AMA approved modern drug makers?

You know the answer to that.

Homeopathy is all bullshit. That's not really anything you can argue. It's very clearly bullshit. Same with cleansing auras, crystals and horoscopes.

Acupuncture, pressure points and other actual "massaging" things do exist to some degree, what their actual effect is, is still hotly debated (as we can see above). I'm not convinced that it is entirely placebo. In fact I would think that there is a beneficial effect to that, but them I'm not an expert so I don't know the finer details.

Also *promote

>> ^vairetube:
I'm more than convinced Pressure Points exist, im more than convinced our body contains chemicals that can induce altered states, and im more than convinced there is more than one way to release or manipulate those chemicals.
The only point is acupuncture deals with real, identifiable phenomenon in the body and not strictly ceremony or placebo. It does not appear to be strictly placebo, its an ancient practice that holds water, the same way maggots can clean a wound ...or leeches do whatever the hell they do, even in modern day medicine.
I really have no comment on the actual homeopathy presented here outside of i dont think its very neat.

COOL! I believe in unicorns and if they touch you with their magical horn you will be healed from whatever ails you.

I'm more than convinced Pressure Points exist, im more than convinced our body contains chemicals that can induce altered states, and im more than convinced there is more than one way to release or manipulate those chemicals.

The only point is acupuncture deals with real, identifiable phenomenon in the body and not strictly ceremony or placebo. It does not appear to be strictly placebo, its an ancient practice that holds water, the same way maggots can clean a wound ...or leeches do whatever the hell they do, even in modern day medicine.

I really have no comment on the actual homeopathy presented here outside of i dont think its very neat.

Acupuncture works with pain, sure.... it's as effective as rubbing your skin where it hurts. If you wanna pay someone to waste a couple hours and gas and stick needles in you to get no more effect than you could by rubbing your skin, be my guest.

Doctors know how pain works and they know that acupuncture does nothing except fill the nerve pathways with a sensation other than pain. Rubbing your skin does the same. As Flowers said, it's distraction.
They've done trials where they poke the subject with sticks (but don't break skin) to make them feel like they've been acupunctured. The effect is the same as traditional acupuncture.
Or they poke needles in random places that don't match the pressure points or qi-flow or whatever. The effect is the same. The patient "feels better".
I'll bet having your mum kiss your boo-boo would do just as well.

naw ... whatever they "think" is making acupunture work.. there is science behind manipulating the nervous system and pressure points and shit.. they just didn't have it when they started stickin needles in people... so... ill disagree there. so do you, i think.

"[acupuncture] can only relieve pain in cases where any kind of attention-diverting sensation (such as rubbing the affected area or administering electric shocks) would have the same effect"...

ok so? so it works but .. what is your point again? thats what im saying. it works.

some things dont work. like heaven and stuff. but needles in the skin actually do DO something... even though the system came from a belief that had no science to explain it....just observational reality. however they got there.. they got there. lucky acupuncturists.

dont make me puncture u. where the fuck did i say it cured any disease?? cmon now get real.

Eh, maybe it was my fault for arrogantly suggesting the medications he should prescribe me. How dare I do research!

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
You'd think he at least had the courtesy to pump you full of drugs first.

In reply to this comment by UsesProzac:
Still really sick. Not sure what to do with it. My idiot doctor said I should get a pressure point bracelet. This from a man with a medical degree.. !

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
How do you feel? Are you still puking your guts out or has it gotten better?

You'd think he at least had the courtesy to pump you full of drugs first.

In reply to this comment by UsesProzac:
Still really sick. Not sure what to do with it. My idiot doctor said I should get a pressure point bracelet. This from a man with a medical degree.. !

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
How do you feel? Are you still puking your guts out or has it gotten better?

Still really sick. Not sure what to do with it. My idiot doctor said I should get a pressure point bracelet. This from a man with a medical degree.. !

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
How do you feel? Are you still puking your guts out or has it gotten better?

ive been preggers a few times. you need not worry about the baby getting its nutrients. your body will steal from the host to feed the parasite! they sell some wrist bands with a plastic knobby in the center thats supposed to hit some pressure point and stop the nausea, that SEEMED to help with my first pregnancy. though i realize i might have been fooling myself. saltines and gatorade are your friend. with my second kid i was steady stream of pukes and poops for 6 months, i kept nothing down or in and was righteously sick. i only gained almost 7 lbs. and delivered an 8lbs 2oz 24in long perfectly healthy ravenous monster of a son. it turned out i had developed an allergy to my prenatal vitamins, i am in no way suggesting thats the case with you, it most likely is not. i am only illustrating how ok your baby is. i was anemic, sick, malnurished and vitamin deprived, but had a horse baby. you feel like shit and theres not much you can do, but im sure your baby is fine.

p.s. vitamin allergy aside, the morning sickness very often ends with the first trimest, second trimester is fun! third trimester is fat hot and uncomfortable! enjoy!

>> ^NordlichReiter:
The ones on the hands do not hurt...the ones on the wrists don't hurt. However the ones near the elbows succeed in causing pain.
They don't hurt, they just feel uncomfortable, the elbow one hurts quiet a lot though.
I don't know, after 5 years of punching a heavy bag I suppose pain suppression is built up.
Then again, people feel pain differently, and some have damaged nerve endings.


I've found that pressure points especially are really variable from person to person. I have friends on whom you could dig into a point for hours with no result except a bruise, and others that if you barely tap the same spot they scream in agony.

So... they're nice when they work, I guess, but definitely not anything that I'd rely on. The ones that force the associated muscle to relax seem to be more commonly effective, even if they don't necessarily hurt.

>> ^rottenseed:
"make a muscle. oh hell, you puny excuse for a minion, here show my muscular arm instead"


LOL... I think my neighbours heard me I was laughing so hard.