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jimnms says...

"There is a difference between "stem cell research" and "embryonic stem cell research." Various conditions have been treated with some success with stem cells from adults. Literally nothing has been accomplished with stem cells from aborted feti. Opposing using embryos is not the same as opposing research or not caring about suffering."

First embryonic stem cells do not come from aborted fetuses. Second, name one disease or injury that has been cured by adult stem cells. Third, back to your argument that nothing has been accomplished with ESC, that is because thanks to Bush's restrictions, there are only a limited number of ESC lines available for research, none of which can be used in humans trials because they have become contaminated with other feeder cells.

"Amendment 2 would not criminalize stem cell research like Fox says it will."

Nobody said amendment 2 would criminalize stem cell research. Fox said Tenent supported criminalizing ESC research.

" Easily dismissed via . . . Wikipedia? Please. I'd also ask you to note the word "potential" in your own source."

So your against research that shows potential? The Wikipedia article is correct, but if you won't believe it, try this source from the NIH:

"Embryonic stem cells, as their name suggests, are derived from embryos. Specifically, embryonic stem cells are derived from embryos that develop from eggs that have been fertilized in vitro—in an in vitro fertilization clinic—and then donated for research purposes with informed consent of the donors. They are not derived from eggs fertilized in a woman's body. The embryos from which human embryonic stem cells are derived are typically four or five days old and are a hollow microscopic ball of cells called the blastocyst. The blastocyst includes three structures: the trophoblast, which is the layer of cells that surrounds the blastocyst; the blastocoel, which is the hollow cavity inside the blastocyst; and the inner cell mass, which is a group of approximately 30 cells at one end of the blastocoel."

"Blastocyst — A preimplantation embryo of about 150 cells. The blastocyst consists of a sphere made up of an outer layer of cells (the trophectoderm), a fluid-filled cavity (the blastocoel), and a cluster of cells on the interior (the inner cell mass)."

Also from the same NIH article:

"V. What are the similarities and differences between embryonic and adult stem cells?

Human embryonic and adult stem cells each have advantages and disadvantages regarding potential use for cell-based regenerative therapies. Of course, adult and embryonic stem cells differ in the number and type of differentiated cells types they can become. Embryonic stem cells can become all cell types of the body because they are pluripotent. Adult stem cells are generally limited to differentiating into different cell types of their tissue of origin. However, some evidence suggests that adult stem cell plasticity may exist, increasing the number of cell types a given adult stem cell can become.

Large numbers of embryonic stem cells can be relatively easily grown in culture, while adult stem cells are rare in mature tissues and methods for expanding their numbers in cell culture have not yet been worked out. This is an important distinction, as large numbers of cells are needed for stem cell replacement therapies.

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