>> ^quantumushroom:

it is correct that you should not judge other cultures by the standards of your own , but I don't know anyone that makes the argument that all cultural values are equal that's nether a left or right , conservative or liberal mind set.
If you believe that "you should not judge other cultures by the standards of your own" then you have no moral authority to judge the muslims. The irony is, while the Bible states "Judge not lest ye be judged" it doesn't mean anarchy for all, nor does it mean keep silent in the face of evil.
I don't know what planet y'all are from that you're suddenly offended by linking modern liberalism with moral relativism, but from what I see, it's the left that's constantly assaulting all of the moral and religious institutions. Not questioning, ASSAULTING, and making end runs around honest debate.
of the libral and "left" people I know they would use science to inform there position and stance as to weather a cultural practise was a good or bad one , and historically its more liberal and left groups that have taken action to stop circumcision and the spred of HIV in Africa and pore countries though promotion of safe sex and fee contraceptives.
Funny you mention "science", because the scientific proof is that circumcision REDUCES the transmission of HIV drastically. Science alone has no moral component.

In the case of assaulting a minor without there consent I think its pretty well established that this is not a "good" thing whatever political back ground sum-one adopts.
'Child-rape is not a 'good' thing.'
If that's the best denouncement of child-rape, I suggest better PR.



>> ^westy:
>> ^quantumushroom:
According to leftist doctrine, we are never to judge other cultures by the standards

of our own, as all cultural values are equal. The witch doctor and the neurosurgeon are on the same level. Christians proselytize, muslims rape children. Values-wise, there is no difference.

it is correct that you should not judge other cultures by the standards of your own , but I don't know anyone that makes the argument that all cultural values are equal that's nether a left or right , conservative or liberal mind set.
of the libral and "left" people I know they would use science to inform there position and stance as to weather a cultural practise was a good or bad one , and historically its more liberal and left groups that have taken action to stop circumcision and the spred of HIV in Africa and pore countries though promotion of safe sex and fee contraceptives.
In the case of assaulting a minor without there consent I think its pretty well established that this is not a "good" thing whatever political back ground sum-one adopts.




"If you believe that "you should not judge other cultures by the standards of your own" then you have no moral authority to judge the muslims. The irony is, while the Bible states "Judge not lest ye be judged" it doesn't mean anarchy for all, nor does it mean keep silent in the face of ev"

what I was saying is that BY DEFAULT you cannot make a claim that one arbitrary cultural accepted thing is better than another arbatrerry cultural thing.

"Funny you mention "science", because the scientific proof is that circumcision REDUCES the transmission of HIV drastically. Science alone has no moral component. "

You are right male circumcision does have a small affect in reducing transimtion of HIV ( its not drastic and the studies done are not conclusive) eather way contraception and education has a grater effect at reducing hiv and it is by using the scientific method we know this , also I was actually talking about female circumcision as much as male , The actual piont i was making still stands , historicaly it has been people that are more liberal/"left" that have promoted contraception , and it has been concervitievs that have been anti contraception and ignored scientific evidence and continued to use religion and dogma guide there thinking.

Finally its very hard for me to understand what points you are actually making or what you are actually getting at I cannot tell what position you have on things the way you write is all over the place for me ( i'm not saying how you write is inherently wrong just for me I struggle to understand what you are actually getting at due to the way you right).

I also think the use of left and right termanoligy confuses the issue, in america your left and right is different to englands and even within america it seems people have different understandings of what is exactly a left or right mentality. It would probably be easer if defined a mentality or thinking in a more precise way or made an argument with you saying , "if people x with x mentality think this then they are wrong to think x " that way it would be easy to agree or disagree with the statement.

it is correct that you should not judge other cultures by the standards of your own , but I don't know anyone that makes the argument that all cultural values are equal that's nether a left or right , conservative or liberal mind set.

If you believe that "you should not judge other cultures by the standards of your own" then you have no moral authority to judge the muslims. The irony is, while the Bible states "Judge not lest ye be judged" it doesn't mean anarchy for all, nor does it mean keep silent in the face of evil.

I don't know what planet y'all are from that you're suddenly offended by linking modern liberalism with moral relativism, but from what I see, it's the left that's constantly assaulting all of the moral and religious institutions. Not questioning, ASSAULTING, and making end runs around honest debate.

of the libral and "left" people I know they would use science to inform there position and stance as to weather a cultural practise was a good or bad one , and historically its more liberal and left groups that have taken action to stop circumcision and the spred of HIV in Africa and pore countries though promotion of safe sex and fee contraceptives.

Funny you mention "science", because the scientific proof is that circumcision REDUCES the transmission of HIV drastically. Science alone has no moral component.


In the case of assaulting a minor without there consent I think its pretty well established that this is not a "good" thing whatever political back ground sum-one adopts.

'Child-rape is not a 'good' thing.'

If that's the best denouncement of child-rape, I suggest better PR.







>> ^westy:

>> ^quantumushroom:
According to leftist doctrine, we are never to judge other cultures by the standards


of our own, as all cultural values are equal. The witch doctor and the neurosurgeon are on the same level. Christians proselytize, muslims rape children. Values-wise, there is no difference.

it is correct that you should not judge other cultures by the standards of your own , but I don't know anyone that makes the argument that all cultural values are equal that's nether a left or right , conservative or liberal mind set.
of the libral and "left" people I know they would use science to inform there position and stance as to weather a cultural practise was a good or bad one , and historically its more liberal and left groups that have taken action to stop circumcision and the spred of HIV in Africa and pore countries though promotion of safe sex and fee contraceptives.
In the case of assaulting a minor without there consent I think its pretty well established that this is not a "good" thing whatever political back ground sum-one adopts.

>> ^quantumushroom:

According to leftist doctrine, we are never to judge other cultures by the standards of our own, as all cultural values are equal. The witch doctor and the neurosurgeon are on the same level. Christians proselytize, muslims rape children. Values-wise, there is no difference.


it is correct that you should not judge other cultures by the standards of your own , but I don't know anyone that makes the argument that all cultural values are equal that's nether a left or right , conservative or liberal mind set.

of the libral and "left" people I know they would use science to inform there position and stance as to weather a cultural practise was a good or bad one , and historically its more liberal and left groups that have taken action to stop circumcision and the spred of HIV in Africa and pore countries though promotion of safe sex and fee contraceptives.

In the case of assaulting a minor without there consent I think its pretty well established that this is not a "good" thing whatever political back ground sum-one adopts.

this sounds terrible , her style of singing sounds pretty off unless its recorded in a sound studio and produced well ,

Live with all that background noise and pore mixing it just sounds like a mess , also she looks utterly retarded with what she is wearing its ridiculously impractical for where she is its not evan particuly original or making a "statement"

shame the acting is so pore and the quality of the camera is to high and the water marks,

if this was filmed on a normal camera without artificial manual action shake put on it would have been allot better.

I'm only critical because its likely an employed film crew made this and was paid decent money so it should and could have been done allot better , the idea of an ape been handed a gun is a really good viral concept though , just badly executed.

I think its amusing how analogousness it is to modern life , vast majority of people pore an insignificant getting fucked over and feeling full effect of the law and arbatrerry rulings of the rich , where as the rich live in comfort worrying about petty shit instead of having to work hard to simply get food and keep warm.

Gee, why still all the interest in that 'dummy' Palin? Is the left desperate to topple this threat to their power? I don't recall any of these "journalists" poring over Obama's emails, stalking his friends, spying on his home, researching his "church", college and early years. Fraud Edwards got the same softball treatment when he ran in '04.

>> ^westy:

This is all good and fun , but really should we not be pioneering technology that caters to the pore and the majority of humans on the planet rather than a technology that will only cater to the super wealthy at first and then maybe the very upper middle western class in 30 years ?
As far as i understand the altitude for this craft would be to low and short lived for scientific use maybe some of the research from this will go into national space programs.
stuff like this is far better than war and entertainment is defiantly an important thing i still feel this for such a small section of privileged society that its just an insult to the majorty of people on earth.


No no no no no no no NO NO NO NO god no.

Firstly, who are you to decide what people spend their money on? Richard branson's company can do whatever the hell richard branson chooses because he made the successful company. Why the hell don't you spend all your time and money and effort on solving world hunger problems, if you're so keen to point out where others can increase their charity.

There's money in this for branson, that's why virgin is doing it. If there's one thing that will give a gigantic boot to the progression and interest in space travel, space flight, space technology, it's commercial companies finding a way to make money out of it.

If i told you to live and work inside your house all day every day, you'd get bored and want to escape the house and see the town. If i told you to live and work in your town all the time, you'd want to see the country. If i told you to stay in your country, you'd want to see the world. Why are people so content to sit on this rock indefinitely? If not space, what else? Do we just stay here like a fenced animal, our eyes blinkered, focused so hard on chasing bits of paper with "£20" or "$20" on them?

There are enough people in this world such that we can do more than JUST solve world hunger. We didn't drag people away from charity events to work on space flight.

>> ^westy:

This is all good and fun , but really should we not be pioneering technology that caters to the pore and the majority of humans on the planet rather than a technology that will only cater to the super wealthy at first and then maybe the very upper middle western class in 30 years ?
As far as i understand the altitude for this craft would be to low and short lived for scientific use maybe some of the research from this will go into national space programs.
stuff like this is far better than war and entertainment is defiantly an important thing i still feel this for such a small section of privileged society that its just an insult to the majorty of people on earth.


I don't think we live in a world where restricting development for the sake of keeping things fair is viable. Or functional, or reasonable. It certainly is short-sighted.

When bionic eyes and limbs go commercial, when they're superior to what we're born with, it's going to be hideously, prohibitively expensive at first, but then the price will come down as the technology is finessed and further developed. Soon enough, they'll be available to a significant percentage of the population. That's progress.

>> ^westy:

This is all good and fun , but really should we not be pioneering technology that caters to the pore and the majority of humans on the planet rather than a technology that will only cater to the super wealthy at first and then maybe the very upper middle western class in 30 years ?
As far as i understand the altitude for this craft would be to low and short lived for scientific use maybe some of the research from this will go into national space programs.
stuff like this is far better than war and entertainment is defiantly an important thing i still feel this for such a small section of privileged society that its just an insult to the majorty of people on earth.


I'm sure someone said the exact same thing to the Wright brothers...

>> ^westy:

This is all good and fun , but really should we not be pioneering technology that caters to the pore and the majority of humans on the planet rather than a technology that will only cater to the super wealthy at first and then maybe the very upper middle western class in 30 years ?
As far as i understand the altitude for this craft would be to low and short lived for scientific use maybe some of the research from this will go into national space programs.
stuff like this is far better than war and entertainment is defiantly an important thing i still feel this for such a small section of privileged society that its just an insult to the majorty of people on earth.


Let the rich die and iron out all the kinks...

...seriously though, the cost of technology always decreases. Don't worry about being able to afford a space flight one day. Unless you're like 70 years old...

>> ^westy:

This is all good and fun , but really should we not be pioneering technology that caters to the pore and the majority of humans on the planet rather than a technology that will only cater to the super wealthy at first and then maybe the very upper middle western class in 30 years ?
As far as i understand the altitude for this craft would be to low and short lived for scientific use maybe some of the research from this will go into national space programs.
stuff like this is far better than war and entertainment is defiantly an important thing i still feel this for such a small section of privileged society that its just an insult to the majorty of people on earth.


“I do not think that the wireless waves I have discovered will have any practical application”
(Heinrich Rudolf Hertz)

Something to think about for you.

You make it sound like all researchers worldwide are only researching in ONE field which has no use (yet) for the poor. As for the "we" part of your statement: Virgin Galactic is a privately owned company and they can pioneer whatever technology they like.

Why should this be an insult to the majority of people on earth? Was the moonlanding an insult too? Or the space-programme of all spacefaring nations? What about arctic or deep sea research?

Don't get me wrong, I too am saddend by the devide between developed and undeveloped nations, but stopping "our" developement is not a solution. Even more so when all(certainly allmost all) technology for undeveloped nations to become developed is available.
(Yes, I know I am ignoring many other factors which keep the poor poor, but they have nothing to do with technological and intelectual advancement of the human species in general)

P.S. and while I'm already rambling: I really hate HD-embeds without the fullscreen button

>> ^ponceleon:

OH FFS. Just let it go. It is one of the most well-written games in quite some time. Should we ban Cinderella? She was adopted and it was a nightmare. Grow some fucking skin and enough with the fake fucking outrage over NOTHING.


most of the doilog makes the game feel like some wana-be pixar film .

Steve merchants voice is one of the most damaging things to the game and the exsperance. I guess if your american you will perceive his voice differently but at a minimum they could have put a bit of distortion on it so it didn't sound like a voice actor in your ear for half the game allso they should have made is speaking far less formulaic ( granted how he talks in this is all he is capable of as an actor)

As for Steve merchants lines in terms of writing to me it felt like I had some kids nurator from some cheep kids cg film following me around , when you have a character like that you really need the writing to be done by monty python , duglus adems or maybe terry Pratchett.

The glados character however is good and most of her lines are decent and fit the game well.

As for this whole adopted news story its just retarded the news anchers and tv produces should just be em brassed by how pore there reporting is.

This is all good and fun , but really should we not be pioneering technology that caters to the pore and the majority of humans on the planet rather than a technology that will only cater to the super wealthy at first and then maybe the very upper middle western class in 30 years ?

As far as i understand the altitude for this craft would be to low and short lived for scientific use maybe some of the research from this will go into national space programs.

stuff like this is far better than war and entertainment is defiantly an important thing i still feel this for such a small section of privileged society that its just an insult to the majorty of people on earth.