Now I can: *lies

>> ^hpqp:

As long as the title and description of this video falsely refer to the security agent as a police officer, it deserves to be in the lies channel.
At least this sift gets it right (and shows some of the aftermath).

Tags for this video have been changed from 'Police, Abuse, Excessive Force, Anger, Riot, Rage, Soccer' to 'private security agents, Abuse, Excessive Force, Anger, Riot, Rage, Soccer' - edited by hpqp

stop using the police state tag. police abuse, yes.

We have yet to see a police state

Dude...that soccer clip isn't even from America I believe.

>> ^SpaceOddity:

>> ^VoodooV:
police state as a tag? really?
I thought we already went through this. A couple of shitty cops, a police state, does not make.
Good video, bad tag

Go to search field at top of page. Enter "police abuse." 3 pages of results.


What's your point? "police abuse" WOULD be an appropriate tag, but not police state. Two completely different things.

You can't cry police state when you've got a councilwoman (ie: The State) decrying the whole incident and insisting on an investigation. In a police state, these things would not occur

>> ^VoodooV:

police state as a tag? really?
I thought we already went through this. A couple of shitty cops, a police state, does not make.
Good video, bad tag


Go to search field at top of page. Enter "police abuse." 3 pages of results.

yeah, Harding gets out of prison for pimping, and apparently immediately kills a teenage woman.

I first saw this video on reddit on sunday morning, and I reached the immediate conclusion that it was horrible police abuse. Now i've completely reversed the sentiment

>> ^bareboards2:

This young man is the main suspect in the killing of a pregnant 19 year old in Seattle.

Very well said.

In reply to this comment by hpqp:
Since one of my videos is cited in your argument, I thought I'd give my two cents.

First, I am anything but a copbasher, quite the opposite actually. I have enormous respect for law enforcement (and other public servants such as firefighters and teachers), and it is because of the high respect for them and their difficult work that seeing such responsibility being abused hurts all the more. Fortunately for me, I live in a country (Switzerland) where abuse of power is rare and severely punished (except when it's in business and banking, of course ). Here too (and probably in most of western Europe) cops are afraid of defending themselves, fearing lawsuits and instant defamation in the press.

Speaking of copbashing bias on the sift, the only example I know of that really annoys me is this video (and it's comments), presenting the abusive actions of a private security agent as those of an officer of the law, and cheering the mindless violence of the hooligan crowd.

As for the snuff/not snuff character of videos, I think one big difference between the video you had posted (which I would not want to watch; just reading the description makes me want to cry), and most of those referred to is this: your video depicts a firefight, engaged on both sides with more or less equal firepower. That someone might die is a sadly predictable and much less newsworthy outcome, contrary to the confrontation of an armed individual with a non-armed and non-threatening one: such a confrontation will inevitably present the question as to the shooter's motives, especially if the shooter is supposed to represent peace-keeping law enforcement.



That being said, may FSM bestow its noodly blessings upon our peace-keepers.

Since one of my videos is cited in your argument, I thought I'd give my two cents.

First, I am anything but a copbasher, quite the opposite actually. I have enormous respect for law enforcement (and other public servants such as firefighters and teachers), and it is because of the high respect for them and their difficult work that seeing such responsibility being abused hurts all the more. Fortunately for me, I live in a country (Switzerland) where abuse of power is rare and severely punished (except when it's in business and banking, of course ). Here too (and probably in most of western Europe) cops are afraid of defending themselves, fearing lawsuits and instant defamation in the press.

Speaking of copbashing bias on the sift, the only example I know of that really annoys me is this video (and it's comments), presenting the abusive actions of a private security agent as those of an officer of the law, and cheering the mindless violence of the hooligan crowd.

As for the snuff/not snuff character of videos, I think one big difference between the video you had posted (which I would not want to watch; just reading the description makes me want to cry), and most of those referred to is this: your video depicts a firefight, engaged on both sides with more or less equal firepower. That someone might die is a sadly predictable and much less newsworthy outcome, contrary to the confrontation of an armed individual with a non-armed and non-threatening one: such a confrontation will inevitably present the question as to the shooter's motives, especially if the shooter is supposed to represent peace-keeping law enforcement.



That being said, may FSM bestow its noodly blessings upon our peace-keepers.

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