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Joe Won't Stand Up For Us

newtboy says...

Nope. Give some evidence or get called a liar. Don't try Ukraine/Barisma bullshit either or I'll rub your nose in it so hard it will come out your ears.

Kinda hard to make the point that the guy who took the commuter train to work in congress for decades is in it for the money, unlike the guy who likes his name on private planes and helicopters, donchathink?

I've been giving you specific evidence of specific instances of Trump selling out America for personal gain for 3.5 years now, hundreds of them, not meaningless and baseless blanket accusations but evidence.

No one in history has sold out America for personal gain like the Trump crime family. No one ever.

bobknight33 said:

Joe, like many others, sold out Americans just ti enrich himself and family.

Melania refuses to hold Trump's hand stepping off Air Force

cloudballoon says...

The footage is not enough to read/spin into a definitive narrative. It's long known that Melania is unwilling to show any signs of intimacy towards anybody - not even much to Baron - in PUBLIC, as far as we know. Much as I detest Donald Trump, I don't care to speculate on anyone's private family life. What I WOULD do though, if I'm Donald Trump, is to "test the waters" inside AF1 before coming out of the plane to face the cameras. Clearly, he never learn.

"Weird Al" Yankovic is on the plane.

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Woman kicked off flight for not wearing a mask

newtboy says...

Interesting....but A-B-C group boarding isn't what I meant.
I meant lining up by row, preferably by window-middle-aisle too, (so row 25 A and F, then B and E, then C and D, then row 24 A and F...) in the terminal. It's rare, but I've done it before, and it did seem faster, no waiting for people to put away luggage before you can squeeze by helped immensely....or seemed to anyway.

But by far the fastest is by row from the middle out, using both doors. In the 70's, it was the norm to board the back half of the plane through the rear door. I wonder why they never do that anymore.

Woman kicked off flight for not wearing a mask

Woman kicked off flight for not wearing a mask

newtboy says...

Boarding late only makes sense until others follow suit, then it becomes a contest for the last to board, and only if you have no carry on (or one that fits under seat).
It's also quite selfish, you're going to walk past and breathe on all those seated passengers just like you tried to avoid for yourself...and you would make others wait for the privilege.
If you follow directions and board in order from the back of the plane front, no one walks past those already seated....and no one has to wait for row 5 to get settled before row 23-6 can board and sit.
Also, no one has to wait for the last to board guy in row 23 to search through 15 full overhead compartments, leaning over and breathing over 15 rows of passengers while checking each bin before having their carry on checked anyway causing further delay.

cloudballoon said:

Boarding as late as possible makes sense. The problem is finding carry on overhead storage if you need them.

Lowest risk seat selection-wise and I'm afraid the longer the flight, the increased chance of the wider spread of the virus will negates the advantage initially gained.

The air filtration system is not in question, problem is the people breathing right next to and all around you during the entire flight. Their air doesn't go through the filtration system yet. When people going in/out (myself included) for the washroom, they act as the "spoon" when stir your drink: they mixes the air around as they walk to spread virus/germs out along their paths.

Woman kicked off flight for not wearing a mask

newtboy says...

It's not an overreaction if she's contagious, and there's no way to know. Intentionally spreading disease is a crime, an assault. Doing it through intentional negligence is hardly mitigation.
That said, they would certainly kick me off if I did that...Edit:...probably permanently.....and rightly so. I won't fly until Covid is no longer an issue.

This year I went on Vacation, was abandoned overnight in SFO thanks to United being horrible at scheduling and keeping schedules, and my wife and I both got a sickness just like Covid, this was early February. This was pre-masks. If we were less healthy, it could easily have put us in the hospital or morgue. I fully agree, airports and planes are almost designed to spread diseases, which makes draconian enforcement of health rules mandatory when deadly airborne diseases are common, imo.

I fully agree, I'm for identifying them and creating a national master list of people to refuse treatment to. Facial recognition is commonplace today, it might as well be used for public good. Beyond the zombie theory, if doctors and nurses are in a huge conspiracy to fake a worldwide pandemic, why would people thinking that go to the same doctors for help with the fake virus? I bet mask wearing would near 100% under those circumstances, where deniers are denied treatment and forced to take personal responsibility for their actions. I've never heard of any virus denier refusing treatment, it's certainly not the norm.

cloudballoon said:

That's arguably an overreaction and the airline might kick both out.

Last year I went on a vacation, caught some nasty bug on the plane on both flights. An hour into the flight my nose starts running badly and eyes tearing up. Back to normal after a night's sleep.

Airplane interior are nasty anyway at the best of times. Germs & virus on the surface and recycled air environment. Mask should just be mandated.

Dumb-asses that believe in hoaxes & fake news that "masks cause brain damage" should be banded from clinics & hospitals. By their logic, since all nurses & doctors wear mask everyday at work, thus they're all brain-damaged zombies. And who would want to be treated by zombies huh?

Woman kicked off flight for not wearing a mask

cloudballoon says...

That's arguably an overreaction and the airline might kick both out.

Last year I went on a vacation, caught some nasty bug on the plane on both flights. An hour into the flight my nose starts running badly and eyes tearing up. Back to normal after a night's sleep.

Airplane interior are nasty anyway at the best of times. Germs & virus on the surface and recycled air environment. Mask should just be mandated.

Dumb-asses that believe in hoaxes & fake news that "masks cause brain damage" should be banded from clinics & hospitals. By their logic, since all nurses & doctors wear mask everyday at work, thus they're all brain-damaged zombies. And who would want to be treated by zombies huh?

newtboy said:

IMO Karen's neighbors should knock her teeth out the first time she sprays droplets of potentially deadly spittle at them. It's an assault with a deadly weapon, you can absolutely defend yourself.

Maxwell

newtboy says...

Whataboutism...the refuge of the desperate.

As far as I know, neither visited the island, but Trump is more likely to have based on their respective relationships. Clinton rode in Epstein's plane a few times, Trump rode in Epstein's plane a few times, partied with him for decades during his pedophilia spree, hosted multiple parties for Epstein including those attended only by Trump, Epstein, and underage girls, and Epstein had 14 phone numbers for Trump.

Clinton has not been accused of any specific sexual misconduct connected to Epstein. As for Trump: During the 2016 campaign, Trump was sued by an anonymous woman who claimed he raped her at an Epstein party when she was 13 years old among various other accusations of sexual assault now numbering >25. However, several journalists who dug into this allegation back then came away voicing caution or downright skepticism, and the accuser withdrew her lawsuit shortly before the election.

So there hasn’t yet been corroboration of Epstein-related wrongdoing on Trump’s part by media outlets, or any accusation against Clinton at all.

Lol....He only finally kicked him out in 2011, >4 years after he pleaded guilty to multiple child rapes and being accused of dozens upon dozens of others, and we now know his abuses never stopped....but that didn't bother or surprise Trump one bit until >4 years later when Epstein started being publicly accused of recruiting multiple young girls at Maralago to be sex slaves while he was visiting Trump and assaulting them on the premises. Did you even read what you linked?! Holy crap!

bobknight33 said:

O great oracle of knowledge AKA TOOL


What about Bill Clinton?
Of both how many times did they go to Epstein island?

2011 Who kicked Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago, for messing with a girl?

https://nypost.com/2019/07/09/trump-barred-jeffrey-epstein-from-mar-a-lago-over-sex-assault-court-docs/

The Walk.

StukaFox says...

I thought Trump's rambling explanation of why he couldn't manage a slight incline was a Deep Fake or something. Then I realized no -- he's actually using his mouth to make the words I'm hearing. Then I realized that his BRAIN was making his mouth make the words I was hearing. Then I had that feeling like I did when the second plane hit on 9/11. Finally, I realized that next year at this time, I'll be in Lyon and giving zero fucks about what happens to this country. Then I smiled happily and enjoyed the rest of the trainwreck.

The Insane Engineering of the A-10 Warthog | Real Engineerin

Cop Drives Man Over 100 Miles After Traffic Stop ...

newtboy says...

Did we pay that cop >4 hours of overtime for his "good deed", and for his gas and vehicle maintenance? If so, it wasn't really a good deed, it was self serving and a waste of hundreds of tax dollars. It's only a nice gesture if it's on the cop's dime and on his personal time, not mine. It probably would have been cheaper to buy him a plane ticket.

An actual smoke screen (smoke curtain)

SFOGuy says...

Would have been laid by a fleet's float planes or limited basic carrier aircraft (like---very basic, pre WW II) to mask your own ships under scenarios such as 1) A turn away from an enemy fleet that had concentrated its salvoed big gun fire successfully against you, perhaps by crossing your "T" (1/2 your guns agains all of his--run away!) or 2) to mask the approach of your surface torpedo carriers, the destroyers and destroyer escorts, to close as fast as possible on the enemy's battle line before popping through the curtain and firing some of their torpedoes before popping back into cover and moving to another location and then firing more torpedoes (torpedoes were the ship killers of the small ships of the fleet and the only thing battleships had to fear from destroyers and destroyer escorts/torpedo boats)

eric3579 said:

Would be curious to know what this was generally used for and if it was used often.

Loose Cannon | 1994 Fairchild Air Force Base B-52 Crash

newtboy says...

$7500 for dereliction of duty that killed an entire flight crew and an expensive aircraft?! Colonel Pellerin and the rest of the officers involved should be indentured servants with no pay until they pay off the price of the plane (so for life), and be in prison for the length of time he stole from those flight crew's lives....they should definitely be forced to hand their pension over to their victims and lose their rank if there was such a thing as military justice.
I'm more than a little surprised no one killed that show off in self defense....the next time a pilot takes his bomber to 3', eject him.



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