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PJ does it again! Simply brilliant - really nice post

>> ^Grimm:

Please enlighten me then....either one of you...how is "Billie Jo Armstrong is more like Justin Bieber than Justin Bieber is." insightful?
Yeah I can guess yuo don't like him...OK fine but that statement has about as much punch and originality as "I know you are but what am I".>> ^DuoJet:
For me, one of the more insightful.
>> ^Grimm:
One of the more ignorant things I've read today.>> ^oohlalasassoon:
Billie Jo Armstrong is more like Justin Bieber than Justin Bieber is. Get off the stage you diva.





I retract my statement.

At 154 million Google image results for billie joe armstrong to Justin Bieber's 502 million, Billie Joe is only 30.6% as Justin Bieber as Justin Bieber is.

For comparison:
PJ Harvey is a respectable 0.9% Justin Bieber, David Bowie is 13.9% Justin Bieber. Frank Black is inexplicably the equivalent of 2.7 Justin Biebers, but then he's a pretty big guy.

I'm kinda horrified that that was an kiwi flag. Can I boot him out of NZ? Or, you know, chuck him in Mount Doom when he gets back.

(Coz we have that here. I know that because PJ keeps putting it in our tourism films with the short people in them.)

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Seems the entire hobbit company save one are for comedy relief. Hope I'm wrong. Can't remember one goofball in the book

Well - to be perfectly fair - very few of the 13 dwarves had any kind of role at all in the book. The only major exception was Thorin - who was given a very stubborn/arrogant/long-winded role integral to the end of the story.

Aside from that the dwarves only had VERY minor roles that hardly ever showed up.
Balin was sort of a friend/mentor role as he was the one who was most friendly to Bilbo. He also was sort of a 'background' teller as he was the oldest and had been around a lot. Also he was lookout. Bombur was a comic-relief useless fat load whose incompetence & weight caused problems. Fili and Kili were the 'young' dwarves but didn't do hardly anything. Dori a couple of times ended up carrying Bilbo around on his back or by his legs and whined about it. Ori, Nori, Oin, Gloin, Bifur, Bofur or Dwalin hardly did a thing at all. By and large, the entire company of dwarves were nothing but a bunch of hostages that had to be rescued. They were captured by trolls, captured by goblins, captured by wolves, captured by spiders, captured by elves, and then cringed behind rocks as Bilbo faced Smaug.

I knew this was going to have to happen though. You can't have a group of 13 dwarves on the big-screen for 2+ hours and have only two or three of them with a personality. I knew that PJ was going to give each of the dwarves a 'character' to play which would go WAY beyond what was provided in the book. So I'm not surprised by this at all. Neither should anyone else. It was inevitable that the dwarves (except Thorin) would probably end up having comic roles just so they weren't entirely without purpose. It will be odd, and seem out of step with the book but there really isn't anything else that can be done. The dwarves have to have SOMETHING to do, or they might as well just have Bilbo and Thorin haul around 12 logs.

Instead of Peter Jackson? It might as well be George Lucas if someone other than Jackson were to take it on. Because if you're going to make a mistake, why not go full-retard?
>> ^Ferazel:

I really wish that Guillermo Del Toro would have directed this instead of Peter Jackson. I really think he could have done a better job than PJ.

>> ^Ferazel:

I really wish that Guillermo Del Toro would have directed this instead of Peter Jackson. I really think he could have done a better job than PJ.

Nah. Del Toro is a good director, but not a great one. Peter Jackson is the right man for the job.

I'm liking that they put a song into the trailer and fit it to that. The scenery and armor/costuming looks amazing as I ever could have dreamed.

Things I wish were so:
- I really wish that Guillermo Del Toro would have directed this instead of Peter Jackson. I really think he could have done a better job than PJ.
- Mr. Tolkien himself gave up on trying to make a version of The Hobbit a LOTR prequel, so I hope they don't get bogged down in that too much and try to stay true to the original story.