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Saving Strangers From Scientology

newtboy says...

Scientology now tricks unsuspecting tourists, usually foreigners because they don’t know better, by pretending they’re just offering a free and fun “personality test”, a test that always says you have major problems (problems the church can definitely fix for a fee), but what they’re also doing is fishing for your personal contact info so they can harass you and your family members for life until you join the cult and hand over all your cash.

No religion needs to hide who they are or threaten people to get people involved in the religion, that’s a cult.

Nerdwriter - The Master: How Scientology Works

poolcleaner says...

Only 200 questions? I once took a 500 question assessment just to begin therapy LOL! Scientologists would disagree with the more thorough, actually scientific approach of a true personality test that takes months and months of your time before a multitude of diplomaS-hanging-on-the-wall professionals have something of a clue of what your true motivations are.

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aaronfr says...

I put very little stock in these personality tests. In particular, I don't trust them because they only describe whatever personality you have in positive, flattering terms - a trait/tactic very similar to horoscopes. Of course you will like the result if you are being compared to Shakespeare and told that you are among the most brilliant minds in the known universe.

So the MBTI's practical use is overwhelmingly unscientific, and it's often criticized for this. Criticism ranges from the pragmatic fact that neither Jung nor Myers and Briggs ever employed scientific studies to develop or test these concepts, relying instead on their own observations, anecdotes, and intuitions; all the way to charges that your MBTI score is hardly more meaningful than your zodiac sign.


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MilkmanDan says...

The questions are quite repetitive by nature, intentionally. But they usually throw more little twists into them so that they aren't all quite SO similar as that second link. Plus, the phrasing of the questions in general seemed much better in the first link.

I've taken quite a few variations of the test and they always come back INTP. So, I think that is probably "correct" for me; assuming one can put any stock into these personality test things at all.

The professionally administered one you took sounds reminiscent of my experiences when getting IQ tested for school. That was kinda bizarre at points -- like when they took out a "puzzle" with 4 equal sized cubes with a picture of an apple printed on one side of the cubes (other 5 faces all blank) so that if you put them together in a square it completed the picture. They made a big production of warning me that that portion of the test was timed, and then told me to put together the puzzle. It took about 1 second to verify that all of the other sides of the cubes were blank (checking to make sure it wasn't some sort of trick question) and another second to put together. Very weird.

AeroMechanical said:

I think that's the way it's meant to be, and maybe I'd trust that one more. They made me take one of these professionally administered ones in school (engineering obviously... because everyone else doesn't need a test to tell them what their personality is like) and that's what it was like. Sort of like getting grilled by the fuzz, they ask you the same question in a bunch of different ways to get a more representative answer.

I don't remember my coding, but in the bar graphs I was pretty much exactly down the middle in every category, so I figure I aced it. Totally zen, that's me.

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MilkmanDan says...

If you search for Myers Briggs personality test, you'll find a lot.

I tried 2 of the first few search results, and this one:
http://www.16personalities.com/free-personality-test
was the best -- it matched what I got on a paper version of the test that I took while in school (INTP -- the "nerdy engineer" type).

This one:
http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp
gave me a slightly different result (INTJ). The questions seemed repetitive and weird in that version, so I wouldn't recommend it except for comparing.

eric3579 said:

That was great *doublepromote

Where can i take that test?

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newtboy says...

Minnesota. Thank you. Finally. Good, I won't feel like I'm missing too much avoiding it.
I took a 'test' that tens of thousands took, and scored well above the 98th percentile. It wasn't a silly 'personality test' either, but a multi-phasic knowledge test. Thank you very much.
Personality tests are simple to lie on and pass unless you are a moron and stupidly state you want to be a cop so you can get away with crimes and bully others. 'Passing' one is nothing to feel superior about, especially when there's no reference showing what they want in a personality, maybe they're simply looking for stupid thugs that are team players and bullies.
All cops take those tests. We can see the quality of people that 'pass' those tests. I notice you didn't mention the IQ test you had to 'fail' in order to 'pass'. LOL!

lantern53 said:

I wonder how many of you had to take a test to get hired, a test that 200-300 people took, then took the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality inventory test, and to score in the top ten, then to be interviewed by a sociologist or psychotherapist, then a psychiatrist, then interviewed by the head of the organization and two other representatives of the local governing authority?

That's what I thought.

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Porksandwich says...

Oh you don't like how they try to use personality tests, GPA, and the infamous "career day" to help kids decide? I'm still not sure what I could stand to do for the rest of my life, and that's mainly because everything they tried to tell me was not helpful and everything you look into is not what people claim it to be.

Which I view as a failing of colleges, since young people are paying money to go into things they only have a very vague notion of and unless their parents or a close relative do the job, no one is going to provide them with straight answers in a vast majority of the time. Assuming they even consider what careers to ask about or what questions to ask about said careers.

I hold it up as proof that colleges at this time are there to get people in and out of programs while milking them for as much as possible, but don't actually take the time to evaluate that their programs provide the building blocks the student would need to follow the job path they THINK they want. The colleges don't care if the students presumptions are wrong.

I also view elementary to high school as bypassing a lot of common knowledge, common sense, life skills, etc things kids should learn. Like electric safety and basic repairs, basic automotive/mechanic/tool usage, cooking/laundry basics, and probably the most important of all nutrition and exercise. You see people on the news having heatstroke and everything else because they don't drink enough fluids or don't realize that not sweating is a really bad thing. Plus proper stretching and all that. I mean I remember them having wood working classes, and it didn't even focus on things you might actually run into that you could repair on your own without having some major equipment.

Education is great, but too many people come out of high school and college with a lot of knowledge, no applicable skills to a field, and almost no rudimentary skills to speak of. And this isn't saying they should be trained for jobs, this is saying they have enough of a common life skill set that they can at least somewhat measure what is required in positions. Right now, everyone claims they can do everything and they really know very little.

But Im with you there on the TNG DNA job matching.....wish we had it. No politics, nepotism, and what not to throw a wrench into everything.

>> ^NetRunner:

>> ^chilaxe:
@NetRunner 'everyone who qualifies for college should go for free.'
Just what we need, more lazy, talentless graduates with a heart-warming "culture studies" or "environmental studies" degree working for minimum wage at Starbucks.
I have too many friends to count who got useless college degrees and now, ten years later, are still doing nothing with their lives.

So free choice didn't make people lead full and productive lives? Imagine that.
Snark aside, I don't really see why more scholarships would change things. I'm not talking about making college compulsory, I'm talking about taking monetary cost out of the equation when discussing whether you go or not.
Remember that episode of ST:TNG where all the kids on the Enterprise got kidnapped by an alien race, and they did tests on their DNA, and then told them what their career would be and immediately put them to work? They were fun professions too, like musician, sculptor, engineer, etc.
I sometimes think I would've personally preferred that to having to figure out in my teenage years what kind of career would appeal to me, acquire the skills and training required by that career, and then find a job. It seems like our education system should expend a greater effort on that, rather than just presenting kids with ever-larger menus of classes to take and degrees to earn.

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maximillian says...

>> ^Fusionaut:
In addition to being complete morons these fools are also bad christians. The "are you a good person test" asks if you are a good enough person to get into heaven. But if they actually read a bible once in a while they might come across this. Whoever that criminal on the cross was probably didn't follow very many of the ten commandments yet he was allowed to enter paradise. All he had to do was ask.


If you looked up the "Way of the Master" you would see that they use the Ten Commandments to show that NO one is perfect and can uphold God's standard, and that "asking" or believing in God is the only way to Heaven.

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Did You Know That Every Day, People Die?

Shepppard says...

Hoo boy. I took that "Am I a good person" test, and much like laura, as soon as I got to the "Have you taken the lords name in vain" part, I actually started laughing.

So, I complete the stupid test, knowing full well hilarity would probably ensue because I truly am a bastard.. and then get lectured for honestly answering. I mean, who are they to judge? pfft.

also, on the question of have you taken the lords name in vain.. it says "You've taken the name, yadda yadda blah blah.. And turned it into a filthy Four letter word...
1.G
2.O
3.D
4.?

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Fusionaut says...

In addition to being complete morons these fools are also bad christians. The "are you a good person test" asks if you are a good enough person to get into heaven. But if they actually read a bible once in a while they might come across this. Whoever that criminal on the cross was probably didn't follow very many of the ten commandments yet he was allowed to enter paradise. All he had to do was ask. Another verse they might find handy is this one.

They are so narrow minded they can't possibly be dissuaded from their false beliefs. Don't they know that the truth will set them free? (see what I did there?)

Also, using their scriptures against them is awesome. Read your own references, idiots. Man, these guys are annoying. This is one of those vids that you upvote because you hate it.

Thanks & Apologies & A** Gravity (Wildwestshow Talk Post)

choggie says...

Takes all kinds to make up this crazy place called paradise-

I will continue to refuse to discuss personal grudges with a handful of users in the public forum.

I extend an olive branch in the form of an open invitation for discussion with a view to understanding in private, off-site, to any of the users who feel that they were and are still disrespected without just cause on the threads having to do with my persona here on the sift.

Again, a heartfelt and sincere apology to those I have maligned in the past with reaction rather than thoughtful response.....except NetRunner, for it is my humble opinion he ingests too much Media. I never had a dislike for you NR, simply the content you serves' up. I most likely never will, for you maintain yourself quite well in the face of dissenting OPINION and can scribble pretty good,too....

Simple words. No regrets for my past actions, they are and were what they were. My only regret is the unwillingness of anyone offered discourse to continue to hold dear their frustration and perceived indignation on my part.

Nuff said, I will abide by your request KP and would hope for some future, amicable resolution.

Did I mention I love those funky new handcuffs??
When I lose my "P" and am un-miseried I hope I get to keep them instead of some other, colordy bling.

No more sockpuppets, I used them as a personal test of my ability to slip under the radar and structure choggie's re-instatement, which came in another form altogether. Part of what makes the world a special place, and a stimulating gig to trip on for a spell...

If I get ousted or hobbled again, I won't be back-but don't count on it....oh those who would that choggie suffer some fascist, cop-like indignation again.

Rules are made for the herd, and there to be tweaked by the wolves until the dross falls away revealing gold. This world is the way it is, for want of less restrictions.
Yaaaaawwwwwwwwwn. G'morning.

The Church of Science & Knowledge has found the 'One'

HadouKen24 says...

Wait, people are saying this wasn't a send-up of scientology?

Scientology = the branch of knowledge concerned with science.

Hence, Church of Science and Knowledge is a pretty obvious reference to Scientology.

The personality test is one of the things Scientology is best known for. I don't know of any other major cults or New Religious Movements which even use personality tests,

The office itself is a direct parody of Scientology branches.

Honestly, I can't see how this can be reasonably interpreted any other way.

>> ^dannym3141:
The personality test is NOT a trademark system of scientology, i remember stories about cults when i was 5 that started you out with a personality test,


Can you name one? The Temple of Damanhur doesn't. Eckankar doesn't. The Raelians don't. The Moonies don't. The Hare Krishnas don't. Heaven's Gate didn't. Summum doesn't. Aleph (formerly Aum Shinrikyo) doesn't.

The Church of Science & Knowledge has found the 'One'

dannym3141 says...

^ What!? Why are you so certain they're taking the piss out of anything in order to say "it must be scientology there's nothing else"? The sketch is funny independantly of piss taking, i don't even SEE any piss taking, just a typical pattern of a big train sketch, did you even watch the damn show?

They're not taking the piss out of anything. The sign is the only thing there. The personality test is NOT a trademark system of scientology, i remember stories about cults when i was 5 that started you out with a personality test, and as for the professional manner and appearance of the staff - that is so crucial to the rediculousness of the rest of the sketch. The sketch follows the line of a LOT of big train sketches in which a rediculous situation meets a serious situation. Like the sketch where they wank in the office at work. Or a super smooth sexually active guy who can't operate doors.

Anyway, i take back my comment, you've changed the title and shown that it wasn't just for votes, so i apologise and i do look like an idiot... it just happens a lot on this circle-jerk video upvoting website and it irks me

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sepatown says...

the name of the church, the personality test, the straight, professional manner and appearance of the staff/ office whilst concealing behind a veil some seriously weird mythology all said to me 'scientology'.

but i will change it so i no longer bring shame unto my family.



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