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Trump Supporter CHANGES MIND on Biden in 60sec

newtboy says...

Russia invaded Ukraine to expand. They came up with a dozen lame excuses, like protecting Russian speaking people in Crimea from being insulted and to stop the local government (who they called extremists) from taking abandoned Russian military bases, NATO expansion was never a reason they gave for invading.
In Ukraine proper, his stated excuse was that the new Ukrainian government (formed after the Kremlin installed puppet government was ousted) was comprised of NAZIs who were ethnically cleansing Russian speakers in the East, a total fabrication.
https://www.euractiv.com/section/global-europe/news/in-putins-words-why-russia-invaded-ukraine/
Try keeping your revisionist Russia centric anti democratic fantasy history to yourself. I know some random internet blowhard failure broadcasting from mommy’s basement told you this alternative fact nonsense, you have got to stop trusting them.

There’s been more NATO expansion in “buffer” nations since Russia invaded than in the 50+ years beforehand, with more coming because they invaded their neighbor…again.

Ukraine will be a NATO country now, so is our business.
Ukraine was in a treaty with the US, so was already our business. We guaranteed their borders against invasion in exchange for their nuclear arsenal. No nation will ever do a nuclear disarmament treaty with America, we don’t keep our word or we would be fighting there.
Russian expansionism isn’t stopped by ignoring it, it’s encouraged. Trump encouraged the expansionism into Ukraine proper (Crimea was Ukraine) when he recognized Russia’s claim on the seized territory, giving the green light to expand their military operations in Eastern Ukraine (that they denied existed but absolutely were there fighting during Trump’s administration and even before, recall Russians shot down a passenger plane in Ukraine in 2014 and never left).

The EU is supportive enough of Ukraine that they just unanimously agreed to $54 billion in military aid, and the EU is our closest trading partner so again, our business. The MAGA ploy to block any aid to Ukraine to aid Russia (hoping it would look bad for Biden) has failed, the EU miraculously stood up as a unified front and agreed to fund Ukraine.
NATO has agreed to admit Ukraine as soon as possible, something never considered before the invasion.


Ukraine is a lost war, lost by Russia…Russia just won’t admit it yet, but their country will be feeling the loss for decades…loss of their army, loss of an entire generation of young men, loss of their economy, loss of hundreds of trade agreements/partners, loss of trillions of dollars, loss of international standing and cooperation, loss of stability. At this point, even if Russia took Ukraine tomorrow, it would be a loss for Russia. They destroyed their prize, and themselves in the process, and the rest of the world is happy to destroy them through a proxy while Russia engages directly and is crushed daily.
Winning!

https://youtu.be/WhILMFdifhk?si=k-egPJ1oDrqKrd_S

Ukraine has already won this war by destroying Russia. It’s exceedingly likely they will also drive the Russians out and may even take some of Russia a s a buffer zone…Russia is losing badly.

bobknight33 said:

The question is Why is Russia invading Ukraine.

The answer is NATO creeping into buffer countries that was agreed on after the fall of Russia.



Finally Ukraine is not a NATO country----------- This is none of our business.




Ukraine is a lost war.

Republicans Use Fake AI Generated Biden Robocall

newtboy says...

Despite the Republican election interference, and despite not even being on the ballot, Biden won the NH primary by over 47% (67%-20%) while Trump won by 10%.
Meanwhile you post insulting idiotic infantile nonsense and pat yourself on the back. Good job, go get a cookie then nap time for you.

bobknight33 said:

Man, that's just wrong. Wonder what Democrat PAC did that?

Now for something completely different:

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newtboy says...

lol….”creep”! Love it. 😂

Putin’s “Leftist talking points”! LOL!!! Not according to Russia. They gave their reasons for invasion at the time, NATO expanding was not among them. 😂

Bwaaahahaha!!! Putin was turned down by NATO?!? Citation please!
Russia walked from even negotiations with NATO in 2015. When do you say Putin asked to join…please provide a video of his speech requesting admission. Doesn’t exist because it didn’t happen. You bought and repeated ANOTHER stupid lie.

NATO was created to protect Western European countries from the Soviet Union expanding into their territories, not to fight communism but USSR expansionism. Russian expansionism is still a threat, and you don’t start a “No Homers” club then admit Homer because he changed his hairstyle…meaning you don’t form an alliance to protect against Russia then admit Russia as a lead member.
Btw- Putin has expressed interest in returning to communist socialist Russia and retaking all satellite nations.

PS- your broken English once again betrays your foreign nationality, “Guess America need an enemy for feed the military industrial complex.” is not a fractured English sentence fragment an American would say and denotes an alien sentence structure in your native tongue. 😂

PS- to debunk your Russian propaganda that NATO agreed to not expand…. https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/115204.htm#:~:text=NATO%20promised%20Russia%20it%20would%20not%20expand%20after%20the%20Cold%20War&text=Such%20an%2
0agreement%20was%20never,included%20provisions%20on%20NATO%20membership.

And what I can find about Putin wanting in NATO is according to him he once floated the idea offhand to Clinton but only if Russia was admitted immediately without waiting in line, meeting basic requirements, paying, or having an acceptance vote, and only if Russia gets the same full power as America without contributing the same amount…not a true, serious, or in any way official application to join. He was not “turned down”, in fact Clinton publicly said he wouldn’t object to Russia entering NATO, but they never applied. It’s propaganda for ignorami, Sucker.

This stuff you spout is simple to debunk in seconds, and is mostly pure Russian propaganda straight from Sputnik. You should really look into your nonsense before spewing it into the ether like a drunk puppet in Team America. If only you cared that you look like an idiotic knownothing anti democracy anti American nutjob cultist, but clearly that doesn’t bother you.

Here’s a nightcap for you…Trump’s “security” rushing righty media away from his event when protesters start chanting “LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP!” 😂

bobknight33 said:

Has everything to do with NATO creep.

As usual you are just using leftest talking points.

NATO was created to keep Communist Russia in check. Russia is no longer Communist.

Also Putin asked to be enter into NATO but was turned down. -- Guess America need an enemy for feed the military industrial complex.

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newtboy says...

You have no idea what you’re talking about, as usual. Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014. Crimea was part of Ukraine. Biden had nothing to do with it, Trump encouraged them to go farther by recognizing Crimea as Russia to appease his benefactor, Putin…and historically Bush sr made the trilateral agreement essentially guaranteeing to protect Ukraine’s borders with US military power in exchange for nuclear deploliferation in the wake of the fall of the Soviet Union in 92. Should we ignore the international treaty and destroy our reputation, making it impossible to make any international agreements at all? You likely think so as an honorless liar.

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-trilateral-process-the-united-states-ukraine-russia-and-nuclear-weapons/

I know you don’t know the history, but that’s no excuse for making up nonsense.

Putin’s continuing expansionist policy has forced the hand of NATO to admit multiple countries that before the invasions weren’t even being considered, and make plans for admitting Ukraine, not the other way around you fool.
The waste is to throw away a victory for democracy and against a likely return to communist socialism just to hand Biden a loss…as if it were his war.

bobknight33 said:

Why do you stand for Bidens failure?
Biden policies with NATO forced the Russian hand and Biden lost. Worst thousands of lives lost............Such a waste all for not.

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newtboy says...

Why did Trump need to make the hyper narcissistic “god made Trump” video?
Because he needs to because god doesn’t want Trump (proven by his constant losses)?
He puts out those videos claiming he’s the messiah and you stupidly still claim you aren’t in a cult. I won’t insult your lack of intelligence by pretending you believe the nonsense you spout…not even you are that dumb and ignorant, and that is a LOW bar.
Pretty hilariously clueless for you, or any MAGgot, to complain about fear mongering since it’s constantly and consistently been your main tactic….the world will end and you will die if you don’t vote for Trump, he’s said that. He’s also said it’s ok if you do die, as long as you vote for Trump first (or your relatives hide your death and use your vote for Trump).

bobknight33 said:

The left need to make such fear videos because Americans want Trump in 2024.

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newtboy says...

😂
Trump has a new defense….he didn’t declassify the documents he stole but that’s fine, because he still has full top secret clearance and once Mar a Lago was a temporary SCIF (with now removed security measures and personnel), so leaving the top secret classified state secrets in ballrooms and hallways open to the public, photographed by the public, is a nothingburger. The problem, 1) he does NOT still have presidential level clearance, he lost it on Jan 20 and 2) the temporary SCIF designation was dissolved well before 2020. Might work with Cannon, his lackey, but will fall flat on appeal.
His only lawyer is happy to say she’s glad she’s pretty instead of smart because she’s so dumb she thinks she can fake being smart, but she can’t. Not good when your lawyer stands up in court and says “Your Honor, I don’t know how to try this case.” Her objections are nonsensical, not on topic, and have already annoyed the judge, on cross she just started reading tweets that had not been entered as evidence, and when asked what she was doing she answered “I’m trying to get it in.” (but Trump was too small to find under his gut) at which point the judge recessed the case so Trump’s lawyer could remind herself of how to enter evidence in a court, because she has no idea how courts work! After the recess she did the exact same thing, then begged the judge “well, what do I do?” And he had to stop the trial and explain the procedure for presenting evidence in a court to Trump’s legal team…BECAUSE THEY HAD NO IDEA HOW! THEN SHE DID IT AGAIN…JUST STARTED READING A TRANSCRPIT NOT IN EVIDENCE! He is livid at this lack of competence, decorum, knowledge, and intelligence coming from the entire defense side, not smart to make the judge an enemy….and it doesn’t create an automatic appeal just because you made the judge dislike you. Imagine if that was all it takes.
She’s going to be disbarred, but she got the fame she was after and her legal career was non existent before Trump so she won’t care…but will try to make you care enough to send her cash. You probably will. 😂

“We’re going to stop banks and regulators from trying to debank you from your, you know, your your political beliefs is what they do…they want to debank you and we’re going to debank think of this, they want to take away your rights, they want to take away your country the things they’re doing all electric cars, give me a break if you want an electric car good but they don’t go far they’re very expensive.” -Trump

Can you tell me what he said? What was the topic of that run on sentence? What is debanking? Why is it ok for you to debank but not ok for banks to debank? Shouldn’t they be the ones with the most right to debank? Can you convince yourself that is a functioning brain stringing those words together and not one ravaged by the late stage syphilis he obviously has?
What?

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newtboy says...

Still waiting coward. 😂

Waiting for you to grow a pair big enough to admit just once that you were 100% wrong. Pretty certain you are 100% incapable of admitting it, but I’m not letting you walk away from it.
Contrary to your lies, Trump is named repeatedly in the recent Epstein document release, listed as a person who raped a 13 year old girl…you claimed he’s not listed at all. He’s also on the Lolita Express passenger list going to Child Rape Island 7 times in a 4 year period, despite having his own plane.
Trump also slept with his daughter, raped 27 women and 13 year old girls, sexually assaulted nearly every attractive woman he’s ever met, and was recorded bragging about ALL of it. Not to mention being a thief, fraud, tax cheat, terrorist, treasonous insurrectionist, pederast, and dementia ridden constant liar. He doesn’t know where he is most days, and proves it by saying the wrong place on stage, can’t remember who is president (he thinks it’s Obama), can’t remember who was president 2017-20 (often blames Biden for things in 2020 or earlier), fears that we might get into WW2, and calls for ending the constitution and presidential elections because he deserves it. 🤦‍♂️

https://videosift.com/video/Suddenly-it-all-makes-sense

You’ve been saying that about Ukraine for years, Vlad. Sucker. They have proven you wrong every time you tried to predict the war’s future….not that you would ever admit it.
They are having issues because Republicans blocked much needed aid for months clearly trying to help Trump’s friend, Putin, and hurt democracy.

Why don’t you ever even admit to yourself that you are always wrong? Why is it you are also always on the side of evil, fascism, draconian dictators, and against Democracy. It’s consistent Bobby.
You listen to the stupidest random ignorami with nothing to lose and everything to gain from lying to you…and you love it, you are never one bit upset that every word is dishonest propaganda. You just go looking for the next lie.

Still waiting little baby. I’ll bring up your cowardly infantilism every time you try to spout more nonsensical lies, waiting for you to grow up and admit you just lie constantly because truth is for liberals. 😂

Side note-Please oh please, Don, keep Habba as your lead council in your criminal trials. She is so unqualified, incompetent, inexperienced, and abrasive that she guarantees not only conviction but the higher end of sentencing guidelines. Day 2 of his second EG Carrol rape case was another utter disaster. There may be no choice, 3 of his lawyers quit last week…Tacopino, and his subordinates Seagal, and Diorio. He no longer has a real criminal legal team, and the team that has spent a year preparing for his criminal trials that start in under 2 months just quit him. 😂 that’s gotta hurt. Habba’s going to get him the firing squad!
Lost another appeal today because they forgot to claim executive privilege over Trumps Twitter records until it was too late.

2nd Bonus- THEY FOUND THE STOLEN VOTES FROM 2020!

https://apnews.com/article/virginia-election-errors-biden-trump-6555f052332d06c83ef797852f81fa72

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/northern-virginia-county-reports-4000-vote-tallying-error-2020-presidential-race

4000 VOTES IN VIRGINIA SWITCHED TO COUNT FOR THE “OTHER GUY”.

OOOPS…Those were 4000 votes for Biden that were incorrectly counted for Trump just discovered. More MAGA “cheating” (intentional or not, 4000 more votes that were counted for Trump but belonged to Biden).

bobknight33 said:

The Ukraine war is all but over. A total loss all because of Biden desire to expand NATO nations.

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newtboy says...

What I wrote is 100% true and factually correct, every word. No 1/2 truths or fake reports at all. Prove your contention with evidence and citation, be specific. That makes you run for the hills in silence every time because all you spout is nonsense and fabrication…impossible to provide evidence for a lie, and embarrassing to admit who you believed.

Trump himself said his favorite thing he and his daughter SHARE was sex, and publicly waxed about how great it would be to have sex with her, great ass, great boobs.
Trump himself willingly said on air that he bought a teen beauty pageant intending to use his ownership to go into 14 year old girl’s dressing rooms to leer at them nude and then did so…said it more than once, and said on air that he was obligated to sleep with every contestant. Again, age 14.
Trump and Epstein were self proclaimed “partners in crime” the entire 90’s and most of the 2000’s continuing that relationship for years after Epstein was arrested for child rape. Trump went to child rape island 7 times in 4 years on the flight record (despite having his own plane), I don’t believe there are records of those you accuse…provide them and I’ll admit I’m mistaken.

As for your newest fake Biden story, Statements from a diary published on a dubious website — which themselves have been taken out of context — allegedly came from a misplaced diary written by Ashley Biden and later sold to the repeatedly caught lying and creating false evidence and totally discredited right-wing sting operation Project Veritas, whose hyperbolic and lying founder even said their authenticity couldn't be confirmed.

Sounds like another “Hunter’s laptop”….a bunch of unverifiable unbelievable untrue nonsense coming from people with a massive axe to grind and with absolutely zero indication it’s not a pure fraud but plenty to indicate it is.

Nice try, sucker. They got you again with another fake Biden story with more faked evidence that even the people reporting it to you say is unverified and may be fake. You buy every one like the massive ignorant sucker you are. You will now pretend you never mentioned it because you are such a baby you can never admit being w-w-w-wrong….not ever. It’s a sign of insecurity and an incredibly fragile ego that you think so little of yourself that you believe ever admitting making a mistake might be the last straw for everyone….the opposite is true. The ability to admit a mistake is a sign of strength.

Remember how Trump isn’t mentioned in the Epstein document release…except for all those times he was. Your attempts to impugn Clinton are hilarious…do you think he’s running for office? It’s hilarious you love to try to go after these non politicians with this idiotic nonsense thinking just maybe this time someone will not look into your just plain dumb lies and you might get away with one, finally, and not notice the target is just a private citizen who is not running for office.….but it ain’t gonna happen, sucker. It makes my day to debunk your stupidity, and it’s always so easy it’s fun. You buy the most easily debunked stupidity like it was made just for you…because it is, no one else is gullible enough to keep getting duped by the same liars. 😂

More hard truths…Tacapino just quit all Trump’s cases…he was the last functioning lawyer, the only one with criminal case law experience, now Trump is left with idiotic legal bimbos more interested in their hair than their legal arguments right when he is more legally exposed than he’s ever been. I hope the blowjobs are worth losing all those cases. 😂

bobknight33 said:

More fake or 1/2 truth stories -- Tall tells -- Just what your dumb ass feeds on.




AT least Joe Biden daughter wrote in her diary that Dad regularly showered with her. That more direct evidence than you dribble you peddle.

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newtboy says...

Recent studies have shown that taking hydroxychloroquine/chloroquine for covid as Trump suggested had absolutely zero positive effect and in fact caused 11% higher mortality. Over 17000 people died because they took it that would have survived covid without it.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S075333222301853X

This is what listening to idiots spouting nonsense gets you…on top of much higher (45%) rates of covid and death because you people still won’t get vaccinated.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/political-party-affiliation-linked-excess-covid-deaths

Trump policies caused a 40% increase in infections and deaths in America, hundreds of thousands of victims and trillions in losses we could have avoided with real leadership like other countries enjoyed.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trumps-policy-failures-have-exacted-a-heavy-toll-on-public-health1/


Meanwhile Trump has instructed his cultists to show up and vote for him, even if you are so sick it would kill you to do it, as long as you vote for him first that’s what you’ve gotta do, die for Trump. Yes, he did say that. Your life is worth far less than your vote to him.

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newtboy says...

Two days after being directly personally implicated in multiple cases of child rape through the Epstein documents, at least one dropped because Trump’s terrorists (like you) threatened the 13 year old victim and her family with torture and death and the now young woman wasn’t prepared to be responsible for her family’s injury or death so she walked away from her case, Trump on stage decided it was a good time to start commenting on his audiences “good looking children”.

Imagine if Biden said that the string of nonsensical accusations you would be making about Biden who has never been credibly accused of any abuse, contrary to Mr 26 (now 27 including the 13 year old) who has been accused by nearly every woman he’s known and has been repeatedly recorded bragging about his sexual abuse of multiple 14 year old girls (why he bought miss teen America).

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newtboy says...

I’m curious….what fake news outlet lied to you and told you Trump isn’t on the list of people mentioned in depositions about Epstein’s child prostitution activities? He absolutely is. He has put out an official statement about being named in them repeatedly, so it’s hard to understand how you could believe he isn’t.
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-jeffrey-epstein-documents-1857653
Are you even willing to admit where you got your completely erroneous information? Was it Don Jr?

I’m also curious what you think “B” means and why anyone is apoplectic, a word I know for certain you cut and pasted without knowing what it meant. I’m pretty sure there was an entire word/name you meant to put there but screwed up even a cut and paste job. 🤦‍♂️

I’ll hazard a guess you meant “Bill Clinton”…who we knew would be on the list because he accepted use of Epstein’s plane a few times, but never to go to Child Rape Island (unlike Trump who absolutely went there a minimum of 7 times). We also KNEW Dershowitz, Trump, and Prince Andrew would be on that same list of people mentioned in depositions from Epstein’s 2005 child prostitution case. It’s not just being listed that counts, it’s what they’re listed as doing, Dershowitz for instance is listed as accused of having sex with the same 14 year old girl on multiple occasions in multiple states and visiting Child Rape Island on multiple occasions without his family and getting naked “massages” from 14 year old girls…not at all what he has said he’s on the list for on TV.

And once more to remind you since your memory is non existent….Trump didn’t ban Epstein from his properties until years after he was arrested for child prostitution (he was arrested in 2005 and plead guilty), running a child prostitution ring that serviced the super rich like Trump the entire time he had been best friends and constant party partner with Donald John Trump, who definitely WAS a client (there’s no “client list” released yet, but there are travel records from the Lolita Express that Trump travelled on and Donald the rapist is documented going to child rape island 7 times in 4 years with the plane records ending in 98, but not his trips to rape children, those continued until at least 2006, seemingly actually 2008).
He only banned Epstein from Maralago in mid 2008 3 FULL FUCKING YEARS after his arrest for child rapes and well after his guilty plea (negotiated by named co-conspirator Dershowitz in a true sweetheart deal that was determined to be a flagrant violation of the multiple victims rights) and after guests and employees threatened to sue Trump for allowing him to hunt children for rape on the property. Look it up. (I know you won’t, so https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/04/trump-banned-jeffrey-epstein-from-mar-a-lago-for-hitting-on-girl.html )

Such a silly little tool, always spouting nonsensical lies as fast as they’re lied, never looking at the evidence yourself, always taking the word of a guy who makes a good living selling you lies. It’s astonishing you keep it up despite being proven to be an ignorant idiot duped into repeating stupid lies every single time.

Sucker.

bobknight33 said:

1/4/24
The Epstein client list came out yesterday and the Democrats and the never-Trumpers are going apoplectic over B

Trump banned Epstein from all Trump properties over 15 years ago.

Bill Clinton being on the client list while Donald Trump is not:

Unintended Consequences

newtboy says...

No you fucking moron. That’s just more hate speech having absolutely nothing to do with the video.
This is nothing more than an infantile man trolling…likely frustrated with constantly losing and being exposed as a racist sex abuser (or one who idolizes them).

Fuck off with your hate speech and lies you fucktard.
You don’t deserve to be part of this community, you racist constantly lying troll.

You are one step from being banned here. I’m prepared to push for your removal, you only come here to troll. I’ve been your ONLY supporter for years. You fucked that up with your constant hateful lies and nonsense.
Go eat a bag of baby dicks you child rapist loving racist asshole.

Hobble time people? I’m prepared to petition for permanent removal. Bob has outtrolled his usefulness.

bobknight33 said:

Hate speech video completely unrelated to the video.

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newtboy says...

What dumb nonsense.

1) what does that have to do with the post you were replying to, the right’s faux outrage over Minnesota’s new flag 100% falsely portrayed as a copy of the Somali flag by righty media? Absolutely nothing.
2) I’m not black
3) I wouldn’t listen to idiotic and ignorant paid actors spewing right wing nonsense. No one cares what Kanye says, nobody’s listening to Uncle Ruckus….wait…is that Kanye’s indicted publicist?
4) let’s list a few accomplishments Democrats made for the black community recently - police reform. They came up with a dumb name for it, but Biden/Democrats got major reforms of police departments to the extent that many now prosecute criminal cops instead of handing them a bonus for murdering black people and covering it up. Republicans fought against that.
-infrastructure. Biden/Democrats made the biggest investment in infrastructure in our lifetimes. This benifits those dependent on infrastructure more than the wealthy. Republicans fought against that.
-marijuana reform. Biden/democrats have stopped prosecuting marijuana possession, made marijuana legal in many many states, and exonerated and freed federal prisoners and cons with federal possession convictions, which are disproportionately minorities. Republicans fought against that.

Sorry girl, you either got duped or are being paid to say this ignorant propaganda. There’s a reason blacks voted for Biden by 92%-8% for Trump, and it’s not out of ignorance, and not because some old white guy told them to.

It’s hilarious you are so incredibly dumb you think this kind of blatant partisan stupidity is going to change minds. Black people are just people, they are not inherently so clueless that they just vote democrat because someone said to, how insanely racist are you!?!, someone also said vote Republican why doesn’t that make them vote R? They see who is working for their community and who is actively working against them for racist motives, trying to remove their rights, their votes, their funding, their voice, their freedoms, and their lives.

We all know who thinks Black Lives Matter, and who thinks they don’t. We all know which party welcomes racists, white nationalists, neo-Nazis, KKK, and white supremacists and which party expels them. If you are Republican, you either are racist or are happy to stand with and for racists. The rest left during Trump.

Do you honestly think anyone could possibly be swayed by a dishonest moronic tool for the extreme right like yourself!?!😂😂😂!

You and the extreme right have squandered any trustworthiness you ever had with your nonsensical lies and propaganda, and your constant total inability to ever admit you are w-w-w-w-w-wrong despite being 99% wrong 99.9% of the time. 😂

Judge Pronounced Trump Guilty Before Trial Began!

newtboy says...

🤦‍♂️No bob, they are not. THE FACTS WERE NOT DISPUTED BY TRUMP OR THE TRUMP ORG AT ALL, not in court…he submitted most of them.
Trump disputes the facts on camera, but not in court under oath. He can’t. The documents are what they are. He was too cowardly and guilty to take the stand…his smartest move yet.
Trump valued Maralago at $18 million for taxes, not the DA. He also valued it at 100 times that value to get good loan terms that saved him hundreds of millions the banks and county were then deprived of because of his fraud. Understand? I’m sure not.
I did the math, if his stated bank values are truthful, he defrauded the government out of well over $700 million in decades of unpaid taxes for one property.

What was presented during the prosecution “side” of the “hearing” bob? Nothing…because there was no prosecution phase, it was summary judgement based on what was presented by both parties during DISCOVERY. There has only been a “damages” phase of trial since the prima facie case made at discovery necessitated a sumary judgement…not a “prosecution side”.

Bob. This is civil court, not a criminal trial. Please stop trying to explain things you are wholly ignorant about.

In your example, a criminal trial with different rules, the defense could be you didn’t see them, or they dove in front of your moving car, or you were having a medical issue….or one of a thousand mitigating factors. Trump presented no mitigating factors explaining the frauds, the differing values that changed 10000% in value on paper with his signature swearing to the truthfulness of the values he presented, values he knew were fantasy, so was found guilty.
(Side note- in your example the victim’s heirs would also get a civil trial where prima facie guilt would be established by the witnesses and your admission you hit them and you would need to have evidence supporting your affirmative defense that it was under duress to evade liability, just as they would need to prove malicious intent or recklessness to get punitive damages, IMO).

😂 “Property values can’t be fraud in any way”. 😂 hilarious since submitting fraudulent values is exactly what he was found guilty of! 😂

The banks indicated massive fraud, who told you they didn’t? Trump? The banks lost over $180 million in interest they should have received if the collateral values had been correct. Yes, they made some money, but lost out on $180 million plus.
When you get a loan based on fraud like this, even if you pay it back you still comitted a crime and any penny you made from that crime can be recovered from you, exactly what’s happening.
It’s as if Trump submitted documents “proving” his credit rating was 800 but in fact it was below 400, then saying it’s no crime because he paid his low interest credit card bills, pay no attention to the lower rates and perks he received because of his fraud, they’re nothingburgers…$180 million nothing burgers.

This is a BS showman disgraced ex president caught red handed. You know it, he knows it. No one is blinded, you are simply dishonest.

What of me statement are bullshit or not in this hearing/case?
The disclaimers don’t mean Trump can just make up the numbers, like he did. I know he claims that, he already lost that point in court. He gave fraudulent numbers, values, square footage, claimed unpermitted unbuilt rentals were filled and collecting rent, claims he didn’t add “brand value” but it’s there listed on the documents.

lol. You get your “information” from crack heads, failed comedians turned pundits, and con men like rapist Trump. I get mine directly from the courts, then verify, then look at what nonsense MAGA is saying about it, then debunk your nonsense. Stop projecting. I’m not stupid. I’m no dick. I have almost no ego. I simply hate stupid lies and the stupid lying liars who lie them stupidly and I have the testicular fortitude and perspicacity to factually contradict them with facts, figures, and references.

You don’t ever look for shit, you liar. You take what the MAGA machine hands you and you say what they said to say. You haven’t had an individual thought since you’ve been posting here, not one. Every word you post can be found in the MAGAsphere written by someone else who makes money by telling you lies to repeat.

Yes, Trump was found guilty during discovery before the courtroom trial began, which is perfectly normal and reasonable in cases where the evidence is incontrovertible like this one. That’s the United States legal system, no surprise you don’t understand it….you don’t understand thing about my country.

Now whine that he couldn’t have a jury trial just because he didn’t ask for one until after his trial had started. So unfair! 😂

bobknight33 said:

But the facts are disputed , which mitigates the ability of the judge to make such decision. This was presented during the 11 weeks of the prosecution side of this hearing.



It only work is such cases as for example 5 people see me run over and kill someone. That is not is dispute.
What is or could be to mitigate my conviction is to show just cause -- IE being robed at gunpoint or such.


This "trial" is about property value. This cant be fraud in any way. Trump places a value and banks do the same and an agreement is made. No bank or lender indicated fraud -- Every bank got paid back, with interest and some made other deals on other projects.

This is a BS show trial. prejudged before it even started.

Only the ignorant are blinded.

All you statement below are bullshit -- none of that in this hearing. Every proposal for loans clearly had disclaimers for banks to do their own due diligence in their evaluation. Some thought higher some though lower-- but all made loans and got paid back.


Sadly stupid dicks with big egos, like you push false information.

I look for actual facts like presented -- Her own words - Trump Guilty before the trial began-- Thats BS

Colorado Supreme Court Declares Trump Ineligible For Office

newtboy says...

You must prevent treasonous dictatorships to preserve democracy. -section 3 amendment 14 United States Constitution

You are becoming obese from eating all those nothing 🍔 🍔 🍔 🍔

Don’t forget, Trump said Ted Cruz should be disqualified from the ballot in 2016. Clinton too. He has no qualms about banning people from the ballot so long as they aren’t named Trump.
Also don’t forget this case was brought by Republicans, not Democrats @bobknight33

PS- still going to disgraced child rapist and Epstein friend and defender Dershowitz!? 🤦‍♂️ he says the 14th amendment doesn’t cover the president (arguments during its writing over the wording prove otherwise conclusively) and now that it only covered one insurrection (the civil war) and that any subsequent insurrections must get a new amendment to be illegal. Both arguments are utter nonsense, have zero basis in law, and are contradicted by the minutes of the sessions in congress when the amendment was written where there spelled out clearly why the wording includes the president and any insurrection. Jesus Christ bob, you just love grasping at rotten straws don’t you?

Nicely the Colorado court included that in their decision, so the originalist justices have a choice, follow what the writers said clearly was the intent and wording of the law, or toss out the constitution and protect Trump again, ending any semblance of legitimacy for this court.

Side note- Texas Republicans, led by the Lt Governor, are already threatening to remove Biden from the Texas ballot for spite. Clearly the right has no problem with removing candidates for no reason at all…only with removing their cult leader for a legitimate constitutional cause.



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