Heh, this is like the greatest excuse ever. Whenever I do something stupid from now on, I'm just "in character"

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>> ^Psychologic:
So if the sun turns off then everyone freezes instantly? I'm sure he's seen a solar eclipse at some point, or at the very least that time between dusk and dawn. =)
I demand this video make sense!




He feigns that he's not very book smart.. like in the Phantom Menace review he starts making references to the Cuban missile crisis and ends up saying, "Oh I don't know.. maybe you've heard of it... a little something called WORLD WAR 1?!!" (which had me rolling out of my seat almost).

The instant freeze gag caused me to double take too, then I remembered he was in character. This guy's awesome.

>> ^Psychologic:
So if the sun turns off then everyone freezes instantly? I'm sure he's seen a solar eclipse at some point, or at the very least that time between dusk and dawn. =)
I demand this video make sense!




He feigns that he's not very book smart.. like in the Phantom Menace review he starts making references to the Cuban missile crisis and ends up saying, "Oh I don't know.. maybe you've heard of it... a little something called WORLD WAR 1?!!" (which had me rolling out of my seat almost).

The instant freeze gag caused me to double take too, then I remembered he was in character. This guy's awesome.

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I agree this is a very good documentary.
He was the Donald Rumsfeld of the Vietnam war and the Veterans of that day had a deep hatred of this man. He also had a part in the bombing JAPAN during WWII and Cuban Missile crisis.

Truly a must watch documentary.
The full title is "The Fog of War: Eleven Lessons from the Life of Robert S. McNamara"

Here is the IMDB link
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0317910/

>> ^inflatablevagina:
hundreds of dollars is excessive and it does not deter me from speeding.


Try as I might I fail to see the logic in that sentence.


>> ^blankfist:
Speeding tickets are preemptive. If you agree with them, you should also agree with preemptive wars.

So from your argument it would appear that for you all preemptive actions are morally wrong, is that right? Or is it just preemptive action by a government/military action? In that vein - do you agree with what most critics of the Bush doctrine have said - that Iraq can more accurately be described as a preventive war rather than a preemptive one (I do)? Also, what do you think about the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis - should the U.S. NOT have engaged in preemptive action and created the blockade to disallow further buildup of Soviet armaments? I'm just asking these questions to see where you stand, buddy, no antagonism here.

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Theres time for pacifism and diplomacy, and theres a time for bullets and missiles.

Hitler (Godwin invocation well acknowledged), would not of been stopped with words. Vietnam was a mistake and should of never happened, same with korea. Both could of been taken care of the same way we took care of cuba re: missile crisis.

Molosovic couldn't be stopped with words either...there are times when war is an evil necessity. You cant sit there and pick and choose as a soldier, its not a democracy, the military would not function if it was. So you have no choice but to justify that you are the man on the killing end of the politicians sword, so murder isnt murder. Its a sanctioned mission in the defence of your own nation.

That is justification, whether the mission is justified or not.

I don't think that 9/11 was the most important test of all presidencies during Cheney's lifetime - I'm pretty sure he was alive during the Cuban missile crisis.

>> ^StukaFox:
Bill O'Reilly: Y'ever hear of a little thing called The Cuban Missile Crisis? Yeah, the reason you've heard of it as history on TV and not as a story told by the shaman while you're living in a cave surrounded by softly-glowing ruins is because JFK kept the crisis from becoming a nuclear war.


Oh, so JFK took those missles out of Turkey out of the goodness of his heart, and not the pressure from Russia. Now I understand. Thanks for the history lesson, son.

Bill O'Reilly: Y'ever hear of a little thing called The Cuban Missile Crisis? Yeah, the reason you've heard of it as history on TV and not as a story told by the shaman while you're living in a cave surrounded by softly-glowing ruins is because JFK kept the crisis from becoming a nuclear war.

Heres how the money comes down to the little people.

The credit market is liquid, it flows like a river, and it moves and is generated by currency trade.

Two days ago, the paper market stopped trading.

Period.

Right now the banks are going over their books, re-evaluating their loans and capital to ensure they have enough receivables to cover their operating costs.
Most are saying that they dont have the cash, and its because their loans are being valued at 3 cents on the dollar, they have lost a TON of cash, and they cant operate.

When banks cant trade paper, and wall-street cant trade currency, the credit market stops.

The world runs on credit. When that stops, your boss wont even be able to get a loan to pay you your PAYCHECK, let alone keep the business running.

The economy is on the precipice of a total collapse, something that we have never seen before, ever. It will be the complete loss of the US$ as a currency.

This bailout, as unethical as it seems, is necesarry to keep markets that are still alive, living and moving, to get the credit flowing again.

If we can keep enough companies alive for long enough, the $700bn will repay itself in productivity and interest, but it has to get moving, no economy in the history of printed / stamped currency has EVER stopped before, and the US economy is about to.

This is how serious an issue it is, I dont think many understand that.

Here you have McCain coming in and holding it to ransom to push through more of the same that got us in this mess in the first place, all to try and score some more points in the polls and avoid having to debate obama.

Its a disgrace, an utter disgrace that he is doing this.


Heres why Im not outraged about this bailout plan.

Letting companies crash in a market where they have screwed up, works in every situation, EXCEPT ONE.
And thats when the market STOPS.

If you let companies go under when the market stops, you lose the ability to jump-start the flow of credit, and you lose the economy entirely.

To put this in terms you can understand...the inflation in zimbabwe, and what happened to the reischmark in ww2....this makes them look like a mosquito bite in comparison.

The global economy is so closely tied to the US$, and if it stops, and falls...the WHOLE WORLD falls.
This is the most immediate serious crisis I can think of since the cuban missile crisis...its seriously bad.

Great, now we get the Polish Missile Crisis, instead of Cuban. Can't we just lock up the leaders and put them in timeout? -sigh-

The biggest reason, Farhad, that I think Bush will be remembered better is because he presided over a crisis. Roosevelt made some pretty bad blunders in his presidency. But he's associated with the Rough Riders and their 'heroic' deeds. Abe Lincoln was a failing politician, yet we associate him with the Emancipation Proclamation. JFK was around during the Cuban Missile Crisis, and people remember him fondly even though he made some terrible decisions in office.

George W. Bush was president during the September 11th Terrorist attacks. And he'll be remembers for how it was handled. History has a way of minimalizing the flaws of it's leaders, and the former presidents of the United States are no exception.

BTW, not EVERYTHING I mentioned was him or his administrations fault. He didn't send us to war, congress did. Despite the popular conspiracy theories he was not behind September 11th. He also didn't start or set into motion the Sub-prime mortgage crisis. Nor the subsequent fuel crisis or world wide economic recession. I'm sorry he's just not that powerful.

Easy to blame, sure. But come on if you seriously think he could have foreseen or planned what the consequences of his actions mixed with world events would have been, fine. I for one don't give him that much credit.

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