Thanks,

It's strange, I remember learning evolution around grade three and then it was just always a given from there out.

I always hit patches of religion when I grew up, mainly when I went to Grandma's house but it was always something other people were in to and no one ever preached it. It's the type of thing that is there but each to their own.

I believed in Christin religion the same way I believed in anything. (Narnia, LOTR, Greek Myth, Star Wars, etc.) Every set of stories had their cast of players but non of it was ever taken more than the fiction it was. And no one ever argued or pushed their views - no debates.

Which is why I find it so bizarre that people even can conceive of putting creationism above scientific fact like it is equal on the same scale of reality. People are blurring the lines of fiction vs. reality and I truly don't understand it.

In reply to this comment by Januari:
Sage,

Hey i saw your post and wanted to clarify... from at least my perspective. I'm a recent grad and am from a state where this is most certainly an issue.

It is my understanding and personal experience that evolution is part of the curriculum in all biology courses in public school (barring minority exceptions).

The debate seems more focused around it being the only 'theory' taught. In many states folks would like to see competing 'theories' added to the curriculum, most notably 'creationism'.

Again... only my experience... i'd be willing to ask friends from other parts of the country now that i'm at university... but i really do suspect that they would have similar experiences.

In reply to this comment by Sagemind:
So what I'm hearing here is Evolution isn't taught in many US High schools (??)

I'd like to try something, everyone answer these two questions.

Question One: Were you taught evolution in school?
Question Two: Which one do you sway towards? Evolution or Creationism

Whoops! Thanks for that.>> ^xxovercastxx:

Spelled Gollum wrong in the title and tags (but got it right in the description).

Tags for this video have been changed from 'lord of the rings, lotr, gollom, hunt for gollom, cgi' to 'lord of the rings, lotr, gollum, hunt for gollum, cgi' - edited by xxovercastxx

Shelley Duvall and the Mouth of Sauron from the deleted scenes of The Return of the King... separated at birth? You decide!

My favourite era for effects was the late 90s/early 2000s when it was really necessary to be choosy with use of CGI. I think the LOTR movies got the mix just about perfect.

Hells yes. Bet you don't even remember that Jabba the Hutt was briefly seen in The Phantom Menace.

Watching the animatronic Jabba in ROTJ you can "feel" his weight just by watching him.

But, the march of progress...Avatar sucked, but that CG was a triumph.

>> ^Sagemind:

I'm so completely tired of CG characters. I believe that's partialy what killed the Star Wars Experience in the new films.
When I was a kid, the magic came from the behind the scenes making of sets, ships and creatures. The CGI aliens just don't have that tangent real feeling. Sure they make a great stand in and I understand certain things just can't be done in reality but use the real Creature Creation wherever possible.
Use the green screen for sets and for group or far shots but at close up, Use Real.
Imagine if all the Orcs in LOTR were CGI. Sure they used CGI but they had a hell of a lot of actual guys in makeup and costume to sell it as well. I know, Gollum was CGI, wouldn't have been my choice but they did put a lot of effort into him.
I believe with today's technology for Real effects, Creature Creation (and added CGI where needed), they could make far more convincing characters where we would identify with them emotionally as well as visually.

I'm so completely tired of CG characters. I believe that's partialy what killed the Star Wars Experience in the new films.

When I was a kid, the magic came from the behind the scenes making of sets, ships and creatures. The CGI aliens just don't have that tangent real feeling. Sure they make a great stand in and I understand certain things just can't be done in reality but use the real Creature Creation wherever possible.

Use the green screen for sets and for group or far shots but at close up, Use Real.

Imagine if all the Orcs in LOTR were CGI. Sure they used CGI but they had a hell of a lot of actual guys in makeup and costume to sell it as well. I know, Gollum was CGI, wouldn't have been my choice but they did put a lot of effort into him.

I believe with today's technology for Real effects, Creature Creation (and added CGI where needed), they could make far more convincing characters where we would identify with them emotionally as well as visually.

Can't wait for the movies. I also can't wait to see the documentaries on the DVDs when those are released. The ones that were made for LOTR were just awesome. It's great that PJ offers so much behind the scenes material.

Cool vid! I shared this with my buddy and he made a good point:

In LoTR they used forced perspective to make the hobbit actors smaller; (have the actors stand further away) if they're filming in 3d they'll need to find a new way to accomplish that.

I read this way wrong in the newest appreciated comments as "ooooooooh that same thrill of excrement i had for ..."

And was.. wtf?
>> ^berticus:

ooooooooh that same thrill of excitement i had for lotr came rushing back while watching this.

>> ^berticus:

ooooooooh that same thrill of excitement i had for lotr came rushing back while watching this.


Yea hearing the music for me.. made me want to go watch the trilogy.

ooooooooh that same thrill of excitement i had for lotr came rushing back while watching this.

As a raging nerd who followed the production of LotR a little bit too closely, this is really nice to see.

I don't see D&D on there...
I know it's sci-fi but it does have a branch to fantasy including LOTR.

...Anyone see Jack Chalker on there?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_L._Chalker

Dude, they gave the breaching task to the Uruk-hai on the team. Makes sense to me.