I'm not offended, I'm just tired of regressive leftism - as explained very well by the Bill Maher video I linked.

I'm completely disgusted at the white people in this video tripping over each other to see who can feel the most guilty. It's completely self indulgent.

Hmph...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/29/occupy-wall-street_n_987439.html
http://www.laborunionreport.com/portal/2011/09/wall-st-protest-day-three-a-call-for-the-deprivatization-of-everything/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/29/occupy-wall-street_n_987439.html
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/09/labor_unions_and_leftist_group.html

The more I see about these yahoos, the less sympathy I feel. The protestors were clogging up the streets and sidewalks and bringing the area to a standstill. People couldn't drive or get to work. They were creating a disturbance, disrupting citizens, and otherwise being a bunch of jerks. That sort of mess can be dangerous in a big city. It stops ambulances. It stops fire trucks. It stops emergency services. It causes accidents.

So the police got called in to clear a way so normal traffic could keep going. The protestors refused to disperse or cooperate. Therefore in order to accomplish their jobs, the police had to start hauling people away and using crowd control. That means they break out the pepper spray, nightsticks, nets, plastic cuffs, and start arresting people. Duh.

So when that happens the protestors start whining they are 'peaceful'? And the police are 'violent'? Nope. Doesn't wash. If you'd wanted a peaceful solution then you'd have dispersed when the police asked - or better yet you wouldn't have created a problem to start with. But that didn't happen, so the cops had to force it.

You don't get to cry foul when that happens. When you illegally block traffic and create a danger to others then the cops have every right to force you to clear out - and they have every right to use force if you are not cooperative. MLK and Ghandi accomplished their goals with peaceful protests against real oppression. These Wall Street yahoos are just a bunch of leftist cretins who are trying to stir up trouble. I think this opinion about sums it up...

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/09/26/life-on-occupied-wall-street/

"It’s become impossible to tell where a deluded leftism stops and a respectable liberalism starts. For all the liberal complaining about conservative extremism becoming the norm, today’s liberal media culture earns its daily bread by flattering (or employing) everyone from Al Sharpton to Michael Moore to 9/11 Truthers like rapper Mos Def. And so liberalism continues its steady transformation into a self-righteous, incoherent, solution-free blur. Take a long, hard look at the fur-capped, begoggled, and topless misfits on Wall Street. They’re funhouse mirror images of our more respected liberal elites."

LOL. No, you're a racist if you actually intend to put one race over another, etc. If I joke about a friend of mine who can't dance and call him 'white', that's not racist. I don't believe that all white people suck at dancing. I'm sorry that's hard for you to understand. Plus, you also just contradicted yourself. Since he makes jokes about men, women, blacks, whites, I like him because he makes fun of people that I dislike? I have nothing against men, women, blacks, whites, etc. He's funny, and he's often insightful, even though I fundamentally disagree with him frequently. Did you not catch that I criticized him for characterizing all religious people as sexist?

BTW, I've laughed my butt off at Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi jokes. It's what grown ups are capable of doing - cognitive dissonance. I can fundamentally disagree with the point of the joke and still find the humor in it.

About Christians treating women with respect, it's sexist if you believe that women are delicate little flowers who must be treated with respect at all times, because their dainty little ears can't take but so much. Even if you don't beat them, cuss at them, etc., that's still sexist! If a women is supposed to always do as the husband says, that's sexist. Period. End of story. If you expect the wife to clean the house, cook the meals, etc. simply because she's the female of the couple, that's sexist.

Finally, Maher only takes shots at those least likely to fire back?! So taking shots at organized religion doesn't get immediate responses?! Taking shots at Palin doesn't get immediate responses?! Do you not pay attention at all?! I fundamentally disagree with Maher about organized religion, but I definitely would not call him a coward. He speaks his mind even when he knows he's gonna get blasted for saying it.

Your post, sir, is an example of what ideologues of your ilk do - fundamentally alter reality to fit your beliefs.

>> ^Winstonfield_Pennypacker:

If you actually think he's a a sexist, you need your head examined. Does he make stereotypical jokes about women? Yes. Blacks? Yes. Men? Yes. Whites? Yes. He's not a racist, and he's not a sexist.
I see - so people who makes jokes about other races aren't racists. Unless - of course - you disagree with them politically. Then everything they say is racist, right? Maher is a racist. He is a sexist. He is a bigot. He openly mocks the disabled. He insults children. But since he confines his bigotry to people YOU dislike (such a Palin) then that cleanses him of his sin, doesn't it? What a bunch of typical liberal hypocrisy. If someone on the right 'joked' about Hillary Clinton deserving to be raped would that be funny? How about if they said that Nancy Pelosi's kids were a bunch of inbred retards?
The reason he's going after Palin and Bachmann is because they're up in the GOP polls, and they have TERRIBLE ideas.
You're half right. Up in polls, but not terrible ideas. That is a matter of personal opinion. I say Obama and the Democrats have terrible ideas, but I don't go around joking about how their children are inbred retards, or how they should be gay-raped like Maher and his supposedly 'progressive' guests do.
And I'm sorry, but those who take the bible that literally are sexists. "Make me a sandwich" is just as sexist as "Make me a sandwich, because god said so". Get mad all you want, but he's right on that.
I have never met this particular breed of mysoginist Christian cat that Maher and his ilk serve up as a strawman to represent all the religious world. Such a person may exist somewhere, but they are such an infinitesimally tiny fraction of Christianity that they really may as well not exist in the context that is being used here. The vast majority of the Christian world treats women with respect, and even reverance. There are other religions that are far more likely to treat women like dirt. And yet - strangely - Maher gives those kinds of religions a pass and continually harps on the one religion that is LEAST likely to manifest the behavior he supposedly purports to condemn.
But of course - he doesn't REALLY condemn that sort of mysoginy as long as it is applied to people he hates like Palin or Bachman. What a total wart of a man.
Nevermind historically what they did. They're doing it now. Period.
No they're not. Not so much in the Christian world anyway. The type of mysoginy you speak of is confined to a tiny minority of out there cults and branches on the fringe end of Judeo-Christianity. As I said - the real culprits are elsewhither. And yet I find it telling that Maher, his fans, and most other neolib don't care jack that women are mistreated all over the planet in non-Christian nations.
No - like most neolibs, Maher and his ilk dare not raise a critical voice where it is REALLY needed. Instead they will only take shots at the least offensive targets that they know are unlikely to shoot back. Hypocrites AND cowards. Typical of liberalism and leftism as a whole, really.

If you actually think he's a a sexist, you need your head examined. Does he make stereotypical jokes about women? Yes. Blacks? Yes. Men? Yes. Whites? Yes. He's not a racist, and he's not a sexist.

I see - so people who makes jokes about other races aren't racists. Unless - of course - you disagree with them politically. Then everything they say is racist, right? Maher is a racist. He is a sexist. He is a bigot. He openly mocks the disabled. He insults children. But since he confines his bigotry to people YOU dislike (such a Palin) then that cleanses him of his sin, doesn't it? What a bunch of typical liberal hypocrisy. If someone on the right 'joked' about Hillary Clinton deserving to be raped would that be funny? How about if they said that Nancy Pelosi's kids were a bunch of inbred retards?

The reason he's going after Palin and Bachmann is because they're up in the GOP polls, and they have TERRIBLE ideas.

You're half right. Up in polls, but not terrible ideas. That is a matter of personal opinion. I say Obama and the Democrats have terrible ideas, but I don't go around joking about how their children are inbred retards, or how they should be gay-raped like Maher and his supposedly 'progressive' guests do.

And I'm sorry, but those who take the bible that literally are sexists. "Make me a sandwich" is just as sexist as "Make me a sandwich, because god said so". Get mad all you want, but he's right on that.

I have never met this particular breed of mysoginist Christian cat that Maher and his ilk serve up as a strawman to represent all the religious world. Such a person may exist somewhere, but they are such an infinitesimally tiny fraction of Christianity that they really may as well not exist in the context that is being used here. The vast majority of the Christian world treats women with respect, and even reverance. There are other religions that are far more likely to treat women like dirt. And yet - strangely - Maher gives those kinds of religions a pass and continually harps on the one religion that is LEAST likely to manifest the behavior he supposedly purports to condemn.

But of course - he doesn't REALLY condemn that sort of mysoginy as long as it is applied to people he hates like Palin or Bachman. What a total wart of a man.

Nevermind historically what they did. They're doing it now. Period.

No they're not. Not so much in the Christian world anyway. The type of mysoginy you speak of is confined to a tiny minority of out there cults and branches on the fringe end of Judeo-Christianity. As I said - the real culprits are elsewhither. And yet I find it telling that Maher, his fans, and most other neolib don't care jack that women are mistreated all over the planet in non-Christian nations.

No - like most neolibs, Maher and his ilk dare not raise a critical voice where it is REALLY needed. Instead they will only take shots at the least offensive targets that they know are unlikely to shoot back. Hypocrites AND cowards. Typical of liberalism and leftism as a whole, really.

@GeezusFreek. You're unable even to distinguish between liberalism and leftism. And "begging the question" is a logical fallacy, not some vapid term for intertards to throw around incorrectly. And don't assume I haven't seen your prior thoughtless "contributions" here.

It is a commentary on his lack of experience...

Sure Winstonfield, sure.

In the last 18 months these RADICALS...

Have you ever considered that you are the radical (or reactionary)? Is it possible that paranoid gubmint hating god fearing folks are the nutjobs? Any objective view Obama suggests he is still very much right of center, even if it doesn't fit into your worldview. It takes a certain kind of true-believer to suggest Obama is nearing communist territory - and a healthy disregard for political scaling or measurement. Ask anyone who isn't a partisan or teabagger. Better yet, ask anyone from a different country. They'll tell you. Hyperbole is so much more fun though, right?

doubling down on leftist economics, europe in shambles, right-wing economics to the rescue

Even Britain's Conservatives are wild-eyed radicals in your mind. Federal money for kid's hospices? Communist!!!

Please...
Lousy polling?

45.7% after a months-long oil spill....this man is clearly hated by the country and 'Real Americans'TM are clearly lined up against him.

I guess in your mind the following numbers are proof positive of a complete outrage on behalf of 'Real Americans'TM? Or does this suggest that maybe Americans enjoy government intervention?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/140981/Verdict-Healthcare-Reform-Bill-Divided.aspx

And what's this? Majority of Americans support the creation of a public option? Heresy!

http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/archives/185853.asp

I can't tell if you really believe all this, or just like to fuck with people. I don't know which scenario I dislike more.
>> ^Winstonfield_Pennypacker:

gotta love the understated racism (man-child)
Incorrect. It is a commentary on his lack of experience, his spoiled & selfish behavior, and his general lack of any ability to actually deal with opposing ideas with any degree of maturity. But false accusations of racism when faced with opposition is a tradition on the left - as we've seen all too often lately.
the hyperbole (radicals)
In the last 18 months these radicals have implemented a plan to ration health care, quadrupled the national debt, established huge unconstitutional increases in federal power over finance and other industries - all against the will of the people. Bailouts, industry takeovers, tax increases, cap & tax, amnesty, health care reform, and on and on and on - all things solidly opposed by a 2/3 majority of the people (or higher). This administration and congress is the most left-wing, radical, out of step clot of extremists that this nation has ever seen in positions of power. The only people that 'like' what they're doing is the 25-30% or so of the country that occupies the far left. Conservatives, Repubicans, and Independents are roundly rejecting everything these radicals are doing - and they make up 65-70% of America.
the blanket portrayals of Europeans as poverty-stricken communists
While Obama & the other radicals are doubling down with leftist economics - Europe is doing the opposite. Greece, Italy, Spain, Britain, Germany - day after day the stories pile up about how they are turning to 'privitization' in order to save themselves from fiscal disasters. It isn't that they're poverty-stricken communists. It is that they have followed the misguided principles of leftist economics, and now they turning to capitalism to pull themselves out of the hole... All while the Man-Child is doing the opposite and putting American further in debt in a time of economic turmoil & trouble. Says something, don't it?
And the rhetorical attacks on Obama (how's his polling these days?
Pretty lousy - actually...
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_ob
ama_job_approval-1044.html
Isn't there majority support for Health Care reform? Isn't there still majority support for a Public Option?
In NeoLib-Lala-Land maybe, but not on planet Earth. The only thing there is 'majority support' for is for repealing the bill.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_conten
t/politics/current_events/healthcare/health_care_law
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20010453-503544.html
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/03/2
8/poll-finds-low-enthusiasm-high-skepticism-for-health-care-overh/
Folks on the left need to learn a lesson quickly. YOU ARE THE FRINGE. The left likes to walk around thinking they are mainstream and popular. You aren't. Leftist policy and philosophy is radical and unpopular. And when you try to ram it down people's throats it makes you even more radical and unpopular. Leftism isn't compassion. It is cruel. Leftism doesn't lead to prosperity or tolerance. It leads to poverty and balkanization.

gotta love the understated racism (man-child)

Incorrect. It is a commentary on his lack of experience, his spoiled & selfish behavior, and his general lack of any ability to actually deal with opposing ideas with any degree of maturity. But false accusations of racism when faced with opposition is a tradition on the left - as we've seen all too often lately.

the hyperbole (radicals)

In the last 18 months these radicals have implemented a plan to ration health care, quadrupled the national debt, established huge unconstitutional increases in federal power over finance and other industries - all against the will of the people. Bailouts, industry takeovers, tax increases, cap & tax, amnesty, health care reform, and on and on and on - all things solidly opposed by a 2/3 majority of the people (or higher). This administration and congress is the most left-wing, radical, out of step clot of extremists that this nation has ever seen in positions of power. The only people that 'like' what they're doing is the 25-30% or so of the country that occupies the far left. Conservatives, Repubicans, and Independents are roundly rejecting everything these radicals are doing - and they make up 65-70% of America.

the blanket portrayals of Europeans as poverty-stricken communists

While Obama & the other radicals are doubling down with leftist economics - Europe is doing the opposite. Greece, Italy, Spain, Britain, Germany - day after day the stories pile up about how they are turning to 'privitization' in order to save themselves from fiscal disasters. It isn't that they're poverty-stricken communists. It is that they have followed the misguided principles of leftist economics, and now they turning to capitalism to pull themselves out of the hole... All while the Man-Child is doing the opposite and putting American further in debt in a time of economic turmoil & trouble. Says something, don't it?

And the rhetorical attacks on Obama (how's his polling these days?

Pretty lousy - actually...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html

Isn't there majority support for Health Care reform? Isn't there still majority support for a Public Option?

In NeoLib-Lala-Land maybe, but not on planet Earth. The only thing there is 'majority support' for is for repealing the bill.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/health_care_law
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20010453-503544.html
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/03/28/poll-finds-low-enthusiasm-high-skepticism-for-health-care-overh/

Folks on the left need to learn a lesson quickly. YOU ARE THE FRINGE. The left likes to walk around thinking they are mainstream and popular. You aren't. Leftist policy and philosophy is radical and unpopular. And when you try to ram it down people's throats it makes you even more radical and unpopular. Leftism isn't compassion. It is cruel. Leftism doesn't lead to prosperity or tolerance. It leads to poverty and balkanization.

PS: For the millionth time, neoliberal doesn't mean what you want it to mean!

And for the millionth time - I was the one that INVENTED the term 'neolib' so it means exactly what I think it means. I use the term neolib to describe liberals in the same way that the left uses the term 'neocon' to describe stuff on the right. 'Neocon' went from a term describing jewish liberals who supported the military to being a word the left uses to describe anything and everything 'right' they don't like and wish to give a perjorative label. I use neolib in the same way to describe leftism. I wish neolibs would stop mis-using the neocon term, but they don't. Until that happens, just get used to it.

As far as the vid goes - it shows a bunch of hippies getting a much-needed talking to by the previous generation. Doesn't tell them to stop being idealists, but does show them that a lot of the hippie arguments were BS.

I was pointing up the fact that USians invariably equate liberalism with leftism. I'm a leftist, not *a liberal*. I am "liberal" (different usage) when it comes to questions of human rights and social values. Now, you see me self-identify as a leftist, which you automatically assume means that I'm an authoritarian, unaware that anarchism is a movement from the left.

Sorry, I didn't mean that as a dig. It's what I thought. Now go eat a cookie or something.

In reply to this comment by blankfist:
Late teens? Early twenties? Not even close.

In reply to this comment by qualm:
By jaysus! lol, I think not, but thanks for the invitation. :rolleyes: Perhaps you don't realize just how you appear to be such a mental midget trolling that laughable 'Nazism is leftism' canard. Probably it works with a largely USian audience, though -- to me at least, for some reason, they seem so much more susceptible than other people; very Goebbelian of you. I need to remember that you're still in your late teens/early 20s.

You might find interesting Hannah Arendt's "The Origins of Totalitarianism".

By jaysus! lol, I think not, but thanks for the invitation. *rolleyes* Perhaps you don't realize just how you appear to be such a mental midget trolling that laughable 'Nazism is leftism' canard. Probably it works with a largely USian audience, though. To me at least, for some reason, they seem so much more susceptible than other people. Very Goebbelian of you, I might add. I need to remember that you're still in your late teens/early 20s.

You might find interesting Hannah Arendt's "The Origins of Totalitarianism".

Leftism and Rhythm and Stealth were amazing albums. I mean Electro get going and the funk don't stop! Time to clear the floor and let the Zulu's rock!

You yourself wrote "leftism" as one of the keywords. What exactly was your point?

And, Semiapies? You don't know me or anyone like me, or you certainly wouldn't refer to us as "leftists". Asshole.