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Comic-con Surprise: Joss Whedon’s favorite actor

Deano says...

I remember growing up and films JUST CAME OUT. And you went to see them and bought some tie-in products. These guys are spoiling things for themselves with that need to know all. Also the article does suggest that the geek opinion-makers are bought and paid for and co-opted into each film's marketing efforts. Which is totally unsurprising to me. You give something to someone and it creates an obligation - classic psychology.

I do applaud the geek but they need to reign in that enthusiasm and directors shouldn't kowtow to Comic Con just because they've got a superhero film coming out.

Actually the clip above is quite fun. It's pure pantomime and if you know the people involved I'm sure it's enormous fun.

>> ^raverman:

@<a rel="nofollow" href="http://videosift.com/member/Deano" title="member since April 30th, 2006" class="profilelink">Deano : have to disagree...
Entertainment / Celebrity Goss based on mainstream cinema is a global billion dollar industry. Morons of the world are desperate to find out the latest on Tom and Katie / Brad and Angelina. It's completely acceptable to fawn over actors who are overpaid 'buy the numbers' with pretty mediocre talent.
Being a geek or nerd used to be an insult and something to be mocked and bullied for. Now geeks run your IT, and your Internets, fix your computers, and make the App's and games for your iPhones.
We're allowed to get excited about entertainment tailored to our interests.
...now you'll have to excuse me, I have a D&D game to Dungeon Master....

raverman (Member Profile)

Comic-con Surprise: Joss Whedon’s favorite actor

Comic-con Surprise: Joss Whedon’s favorite actor

Deano says...

>> ^ForgedReality:

cantunderstandshit! whydoesthishavesomanyvotes? whatthefuckiswithallthecheering?
I haven't heard of any of the names involved with this video.


I find this nerdy subculture a tad annoying.

An interesting article questioning the power of these "superfans"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2010/jul/29/comic-con-geek-culture

And I agree with this comment;
"I'm quite frankly bored of seeing Hollywood roll up to Comic-Con to test fire their weapons on a crowd of geeks who, contrary to popular misconceptions, don't make a tough audience to market to, compared to, say, regular cinema-goers or mainstream critics."

raverman (Member Profile)

Ignore Stephen Baldwin, Restore Joss Whedon

Ignore Stephen Baldwin, Restore Joss Whedon

poolcleaner says...

>> ^mentality:

Personally, I hate the epic space opera and drama that is a part of most Scifi tv shows.
For Firefly, I think the opening song summarizes wonderfully: it's about the freedom of having your own ship, and being your own man. That is a dream I've had since I was a little kid, and the show speaks to me on such a deep emotional level that I don't think I'll love any other show as much as Firefly.


I love spic space opera but I agree with everything else you've said.

Ignore Stephen Baldwin, Restore Joss Whedon

mentality says...

>> ^videosiftbannedme:

I never understood the fascination with Joss Whedon. Yes, I watched Firefly and yes, it was ok, but the way the internet nerds carry on, it's like he's the second coming of Christ or something. Dr. Horrible has been his best work so far.


Personally, I hate the epic space opera and drama that is a part of most Scifi tv shows.

For Firefly, I think the opening song summarizes wonderfully: it's about the freedom of having your own ship, and being your own man. That is a dream I've had since I was a little kid, and the show speaks to me on such a deep emotional level that I don't think I'll love any other show as much as Firefly.

Ignore Stephen Baldwin, Restore Joss Whedon

Sylvester_Ink (Member Profile)

Ignore Stephen Baldwin, Restore Joss Whedon

videosiftbannedme says...

I never understood the fascination with Joss Whedon. Yes, I watched Firefly and yes, it was ok, but the way the internet nerds carry on, it's like he's the second coming of Christ or something. Dr. Horrible has been his best work so far.

Ignore Stephen Baldwin, Restore Joss Whedon

Ignore Stephen Baldwin, Restore Joss Whedon

Jay's POV -- Monday 1/18/2010: Jay's side of the story.

MilkmanDan says...

Interesting. Talking about it openly like that seems like an honorable thing for Jay to do.

I have had a feeling for a long time that networks are way, way, way too tied to short term ratings when they make long-term decisions. Couple of examples, remember these are just my opinions:

Seinfeld is probably on the top of the list of my favorite shows I have watched during my life. However, the first season sucked. It definitely sucked in comparison to later seasons, and honestly I think that it wasn't really even good in comparison to standard TV dreck/fare that first season. It didn't get particularly good ratings, but it got picked up for a 2nd season. It then started to get better. Not extremely rapidly, but pretty quickly. It rose fast enough to get the slot after "Cheers", which introduced it to enough more of an audience that it exploded. One of the few examples of a network being nice and patient with a show that was struggling to a certain extent, and it payed off *huge*.

Lets go with Firefly specifically, but basically anything Joss Whedon has ever done fits to a certain extent. Firely comes out, and it isn't advertised very much. Fox thinks it is too cerebral and deep, it needs more things blowing up and less talky-talky. So, they cut his original pilot, rearrange episodes, and don't even provide the show with a stable timeslot, let alone a good one. It gets less than a full season to try the waters and build an audience before it is canceled. In the meantime, we've got umpteen versions of Law and Order, CSI, etc., and a very conservative guess of 2 hours of "reality" TV on in primetime per day per network. They had a show that was great and different, and at the very least could have captured a niche market of people who wanted something else beyond watching vacuous morons kick each other onto/off of "the island" etc.

It seems to me that a network that was willing to take some risks, go with their actual opinions instead of instantaneous market research ratings, and give any new show at least 1-2 seasons to catch its balance would quite possibly make for some great shows with dedicated audiences.

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