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Aziraphale (Member Profile)
Thanks for this thoughtful response.
I agree 100% with the idea of catching more flies with honey idea. Treating people with respect. All of that stuff is patently true to me.
However. Of course there is a "however."
I don't agree with the "clearly condescending" assessment. I did not find the delivery condescending in the least. I found it sarcastic and pissed off and appropriate to the topic.
This video is not meant to add to the debate or woo people to her side. It is flat out laying out the facts with a take no prisoners attitude.
That you think this is condescending and I guess poisonous is interesting to me.
Is this indeed sexism at work? Did you read Crushbug's comment? Do you understand that women are "policed" as to their tone of voice all the time? In fact, your mother's (true) advice that you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar is actually the internalized oppression that we women struggle with all the time. Be sweet, be kind, be oblique. Manipulate your (male) partner into doing what you want by leading him to think it is his idea.
Just writing this out is making my stomach hurt. It is so poisonous, the suppression of free human expression that women are subjected to in so many cultures. (Think of young Japanese girls who cover their mouths coyly when they laugh.)
Having said all this, please don't think that I believe that men are the evil oppressors. Men have a different pressure put on them that distorts their psyches -- "be a man" is just as deadly as "be sweet".
I was just saying to a friend the other day -- I was wondering how it screws up little boys' heads when daddy leaves the house for a week long business trip, and tells his 4 year old son "You're the man of the house now. Take care of your mother." Good lord. He's a child! He needs her to take care of him!
Anyway. There is much that I agree with in your long and thoughtful response. I just don't think that these ideas are appropriately applied to this comedy video. As you sort of implied with your addendum.
The narrator's tone in this video was clearly condescending, and that is not how you reach the other side of an argument. Even if every statement she made in this video was objectively factually accurate, the way it was presented all but ensures a full-on backfire effect.
I would compare the tone of this video to the youtuber thunderf00t. Even though he is someone with whom I agree on nearly every topic, I still find the tone of his videos to be overly patronizing, and as a result the message doesn't reach as many as it could.
I usually despise overused, banal platitudes, but there is one, I think, that should be considered. "You attract more flies with honey than with vinegar." Even if it is factually incorrect, the spirit of what implies is clear. You will have a greater chance of conveying your side of an argument if you treat the other side with dignity and respect, even if they don't deserve it. I have learned this the hard way over the years in many of my debates with theists.
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All that being said, I can give the benefit of the doubt and say that maybe her tone was entirely for comedic effect, even though I think it utterly fails in that regard, and is a missed opportunity to contribute to a real debate.
blacklotus90 (Member Profile)
Congratulations! Your video, Japanese Girl Is A Better Drummer Than You, has reached the #1 spot in the current Top 15 New Videos listing. This is a very difficult thing to accomplish but you managed to pull it off. For your contribution you have been awarded 2 Power Points.
This achievement has earned you your "Golden One" Level 12 Badge!
blacklotus90 (Member Profile)
Your video, Japanese Girl Is A Better Drummer Than You, has made it into the Top 15 New Videos listing. Congratulations on your achievement. For your contribution you have been awarded 1 Power Point.
Ladybeard/Ladybaby- Nipon Manju
Approaching 5 million hits on YouTube. *quality
More from an interview of Ladybeard by Forbes:
Forbes: How old are you?
Ladybeard: I’m five years old. I’m a five-year-old Japanese girl mysteriously from Australia with the appearance of an older Australian man. But Ladybeard is a five-year-old.
Forbes: How the idea of Ladybaby come about?
Ladybeard: The sponsoring company, Clearstone, is a costume maker in Japan. I had been on the cover of Metropolis, which is Japan’s biggest English-language street magazine. The CEO of Clearstone was getting off a plane at the airport and saw me on the cover, flexing in a bikini. He doesn’t speak English so he can’t read the article, but he shows the magazine to his staff, and I just happen to know some people on his staff. So they told him who I was, and he said, “Get him in for a meeting!”
So we go for this meeting, we have no idea what it’s about, and he says, “I really want to do this thing with you. I’ve got these two girls, and I want to put you in a [music] group with them. It’ll be like Babymetal except you’ll be in it. And it’ll be awesome!” That’s how Ladybaby happened.
Ladybeard/Ladybaby- Nipon Manju
Both.
Japanese girls just fall over for you. But at the same time there's quiet a bit of overt racism there.
It must be really fun, or really crippling to be a white-guy in Japan.
legacy0100 (Member Profile)
Your video, Sweet Japanese girls summoning Demons, has made it into the Top 15 New Videos listing. Congratulations on your achievement. For your contribution you have been awarded 1 Power Point.
Japanese Condom Ice Cream
It's a very educational product. It teaches japanese girls they should swallow if they don't want to make a mess.
hpqp (Member Profile)
Your video, Sh*t Japanese Girls Say, has made it into the Top 15 New Videos listing. Congratulations on your achievement. For your contribution you have been awarded 1 Power Point.
Issykitty (Member Profile)
I think this might make you chuckle: http://videosift.com/video/Sh-t-Japanese-Girls-Say
Boise_Lib (Member Profile)
Thanks for the promote.
In reply to this comment by Boise_Lib:
I've cut Tatami mats and this is not--in any way--as easy as it looks.
*promote
mintbbb (Member Profile)
Your video, Japanese Girl Explains STAR WARS, has made it into the Top 15 New Videos listing. Congratulations on your achievement. For your contribution you have been awarded 1 Power Point.
Boise_Lib (Member Profile)
Thanks for the quality!
In reply to this comment by Boise_Lib:
He is loser. Ha!
*quality
Selektaa (Member Profile)
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Don't walk in on a topless Japanese girl (anime)...
>> ^mas8705:
This scene (along side many others) could be added to my fun "This is what Japanese kids are watching!?!" series... The only thing though is that this anime is alot more over the top than your average anime...
Although Dokuro is labeled as Seinen, not quite what the "kids" are watching. -_-
I didnt care for the series really, to many series with the cliche abusive females and it gets tiring after 15 years.
Hybrid (Member Profile)
Your video, Don't walk in on a topless Japanese girl (anime)..., has made it into the Top 15 New Videos listing. Congratulations on your achievement. For your contribution you have been awarded 1 Power Point.