>> ^dannym3141:

>> ^Deano:
>> ^dannym3141:
>> ^Deano:
I've tried to avoid watching it as anything on ITV1 is a pile of tosh. Here instead of seeing Penn and Teller perform they judge magic and variety acts?? - <headslap>.
Granted this guy was entertaining but the crux of the show is handled with them looking at a piece of paper to decide if they were fooled? More than lame.

So let me get this straight, you've avoided watching it intentionally because you think it's crap. You watch one clip, decide that the whole show is exactly like that one clip, and confirm your suspicions that the show is crap.
Dude.
Anyway, the show is good, and i normally hate crap like this.

Because just watching one clip for a show like this is probably enough to generalise. This is fucking ITV, not some BBC4 documentary about Goya for cripes sake.
You see ITV1 has a track record of commissioning and broadcasting low grade material. Yet their prime-time major Saturday night hits e.g X-Factor, BGT are obviously way more popular and draw decent audiences. Their current line-up is inferior and has generally been slated. They've even got a UK version of The Marriage Ref. I've not seen that either but I'm happy to believe it's utter shite as well.
Ross looks uncomfortable here, with rather strange facial furniture, and I don't blame him. This job is dangerously reminiscent of what Angus Deayton used to do post-HIGNFY.
I recall P&T back in the day when they had a show and it was great. This derivative talent show is not.

?!?! Does that change anything re: my criticism?
As long as you think ITV comes out with shit and avoid watching everything on ITV because you think everything is shit, you'll always think everything on ITV will be shit including this show which isn't bad.
What do i care, watch what you want! You think it's crap, you haven't seen it, fine, it's crap.
Btw, i think the reason ross did this was because penn and teller have a huge international following, he's not stupid. Except when it comes to facial hair.


Fucks sake Danny, stop getting so upset. It's just a tv show. Glad you agree about the hair.

>> ^Deano:

I've tried to avoid watching it as anything on ITV1 is a pile of tosh. Here instead of seeing Penn and Teller perform they judge magic and variety acts?? - <headslap>.
Granted this guy was entertaining but the crux of the show is handled with them looking at a piece of paper to decide if they were fooled? More than lame.


Downton Abbey? Best thing on British TV last year.

>> ^Deano:

>> ^dannym3141:
>> ^Deano:
I've tried to avoid watching it as anything on ITV1 is a pile of tosh. Here instead of seeing Penn and Teller perform they judge magic and variety acts?? - <headslap>.
Granted this guy was entertaining but the crux of the show is handled with them looking at a piece of paper to decide if they were fooled? More than lame.

So let me get this straight, you've avoided watching it intentionally because you think it's crap. You watch one clip, decide that the whole show is exactly like that one clip, and confirm your suspicions that the show is crap.
Dude.
Anyway, the show is good, and i normally hate crap like this.

Because just watching one clip for a show like this is probably enough to generalise. This is fucking ITV, not some BBC4 documentary about Goya for cripes sake.
You see ITV1 has a track record of commissioning and broadcasting low grade material. Yet their prime-time major Saturday night hits e.g X-Factor, BGT are obviously way more popular and draw decent audiences. Their current line-up is inferior and has generally been slated. They've even got a UK version of The Marriage Ref. I've not seen that either but I'm happy to believe it's utter shite as well.
Ross looks uncomfortable here, with rather strange facial furniture, and I don't blame him. This job is dangerously reminiscent of what Angus Deayton used to do post-HIGNFY.
I recall P&T back in the day when they had a show and it was great. This derivative talent show is not.


?!?! Does that change anything re: my criticism?

As long as you think ITV comes out with shit and avoid watching everything on ITV because you think everything is shit, you'll always think everything on ITV will be shit including this show which isn't bad.

What do i care, watch what you want! You think it's crap, you haven't seen it, fine, it's crap.

Btw, i think the reason ross did this was because penn and teller have a huge international following, he's not stupid. Except when it comes to facial hair.

>> ^dannym3141:

>> ^Deano:
I've tried to avoid watching it as anything on ITV1 is a pile of tosh. Here instead of seeing Penn and Teller perform they judge magic and variety acts?? - <headslap>.
Granted this guy was entertaining but the crux of the show is handled with them looking at a piece of paper to decide if they were fooled? More than lame.

So let me get this straight, you've avoided watching it intentionally because you think it's crap. You watch one clip, decide that the whole show is exactly like that one clip, and confirm your suspicions that the show is crap.
Dude.
Anyway, the show is good, and i normally hate crap like this.


Because just watching one clip for a show like this is probably enough to generalise. This is fucking ITV, not some BBC4 documentary about Goya for cripes sake.

You see ITV1 has a track record of commissioning and broadcasting low grade material. Yet their prime-time major Saturday night hits e.g X-Factor, BGT are obviously way more popular and draw decent audiences. Their current line-up is inferior and has generally been slated. They've even got a UK version of The Marriage Ref. I've not seen that either but I'm happy to believe it's utter shite as well.

Ross looks uncomfortable here, with rather strange facial furniture, and I don't blame him. This job is dangerously reminiscent of what Angus Deayton used to do post-HIGNFY.

I recall P&T back in the day when they had a show and it was great. This derivative talent show is not.

>> ^Deano:

I've tried to avoid watching it as anything on ITV1 is a pile of tosh. Here instead of seeing Penn and Teller perform they judge magic and variety acts?? - <headslap>.
Granted this guy was entertaining but the crux of the show is handled with them looking at a piece of paper to decide if they were fooled? More than lame.


So let me get this straight, you've avoided watching it intentionally because you think it's crap. You watch one clip, decide that the whole show is exactly like that one clip, and confirm your suspicions that the show is crap.

Dude.

Anyway, the show is good, and i normally hate crap like this.

I've tried to avoid watching it as anything on ITV1 is a pile of tosh. Here instead of seeing Penn and Teller perform they judge magic and variety acts?? - <headslap>.

Granted this guy was entertaining but the crux of the show is handled with them looking at a piece of paper to decide if they were fooled? More than lame.

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I would argue that these are not moral values, but of course you are right - they are values in the way that they are methods with which to perceive and act in the world. Chiefly above all the points you quoted stands truth. The rest springs from there. The great scientific value is that truth = good. If you disregard truth, you are not being scientific. Other than that, I wouldn't say that science judges any action like a religion does: "X is WRONG/bad" or "Y is RIGHT/good".

>> ^chilaxe:
It's not true that science doesn't teach us values.

"[Science], which has transformed the world in the last few centuries, does indeed teach values. Those values, among others, are honesty, doubt, respect for evidence, openness, accountability and tolerance and indeed hunger for opposing points of view.
Nobody appeared in a cloud of smoke and taught scientists these virtues. This behavior simply evolved because it worked."
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/27/science/27essa.html

Thanks for the promote!

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*promote

>> ^oohahh:
What's up with the laugh track? Was this replayed on a bloopers show or something?


Yes it sounds like it was shown on a compilation show in the UK on ITV1.