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>> ^zombieater:
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Just because there are comments posted of people recounting stores of battery failure does not dispute the numbers that I cited. Granted, that's post-warranty, but that also means that the cars are older and are more prone to fail.

Also, some hybrids that are out today give lifetime warranties on their batteries! The Hyundai Sonata hybrid is one.

Ultimately, it's your choice weather to lease or buy, but I'd agree that it's a great choice either way. I made the plunge and purchased a Toyota Prius a few years ago.

My apologies if you felt slighted by the "inherently flawed" comment.

I was almost in an accident like this once. My girlfriend and I were driving through California near Modesto on a two-lane, 50 mph back-road in the dark. Our right front tire went over the line into what looked like more pavement but was actually soft, dry, desert dirt. We just barely kissed the line but it was enough to send us off the road towards a tree, my girlfriend over-corrected and brought us back on the road and into the oncoming lane. We passed through the space between two cars, went off the other side of the road, over-corrected again (because we were really just fishtailing at that point), drove back through oncoming traffic, sideways, and stopped in our original lane facing the wrong way.

I always think of that when I see car accident videos. That and the fact that we were driving an early Hyundai Accent, the kind that would've vaporized had we actually hit anything. For a few seconds there, floating in the space between two cars, my whole existence was entirely dependent on luck, or fate if you wish. It felt very weird, and a damn-sight unfair.

It's really easy to say that this guy was driving irresponsibly, or to say that one needs to respect semis, but it looks like he was going with the flow of traffic, maybe just a little faster. Those moments like this happen before you even know what's going on. Your tire brushing that little pile of melting snow can start a series of events that you have no control over. And driving slower than the rest of traffic can be just as dangerous, especially in the snow.

But I'm not trying to be preachy. The thing that really amazes me is that when people see these videos, we always tend to think of ourselves as being in the place of the driver who fucked-up. We could just as easily, however, be the other guy. Happens every day, all over the world. You're driving safely in your own lane, minding your own business, and all-of-a-sudden you're pink pate' getting spread nicely over a crispy metal cracker. Nothing you could've done. Driving is dangerous.

Since the bailouts did happen, I'm glad they worked, because the worst case scenario obviously would have been that we dumped millions of dollars into these companies and they still tanked.

But I still would have preferred we let these companies fail, or they pick themselves up and turn things around like Ford did.

American cars have sucked for 20+ years now. They couldn't compete on a level playing field so we put tariffs on foreign cars to artificially raise their prices. On a slanted playing field, American cars still can't compete. Why? Because, overall, they're garbage; that's why.

We already voted to let them go out of business by not buying their cars. Anyone who steps in and says, "No, I'm sure you all really want the exact opposite of what you said, so we're going to loan them your money." is totally out of line. No means no.

Would it have hurt the job market to let them die? Yes, unquestionably. But the demand for cars does not decrease because companies go out of business. If GM and Chrysler sank, it would have been a huge opportunity for Ford to grow to fill the gap. Toyota, Honda, Kia, Mazda, Hyundai, Mitsubishi, and Nissan all have American plants as well, so jobs lost to foreign manufacturers aren't necessarily lost to foreign workers.

my other car is a hyundai

Dude! Don't tell me to do it to a Hyundai or Honda. If you want to impress me you do it and show me how differently it responds.

>> ^lavoll:

get the car to rock back and forth and you can get out of much much deeper snow than that.. i do it every day now with my little hyundai


Must be tight/crowded in there. Do you guys do it in the backseat?

get the car to rock back and forth and you can get out of much much deeper snow than that.. i do it every day now with my little hyundai

The Hyundai commercials are here: http://www.youtube.com/user/HMAUSA

>> ^Sagemind:

Saw this on TV the other day - Awesome for them!
-- Actually, the one I saw was much longer...


I just saw this before tonight's Smallville episode started on Los Angeles/L.A.'s KTLA 5.1! Too bad it was only in SD and not HD. It had a MySoCalHyundai.com banner too.

I'm mad they did a Hyundai commercial. I think they should've waited for BMW, Mercedes or Lexus.

>> ^budzos:

I feel like I might be a bad person because Jack Conte bugs the shit out of me in all these videos. Stop grinning all the time ya goofy idiot!


If it makes you feel better, they both bug me.

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Thanks Eric - long time no see. These guys are great, I still have them on heavy rotation for my playlist. Have a good Thanksgiving.

In reply to this comment by eric3579:
Pomplamoose did some adds for Hyundai. Thought you might be interested.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THAky3XYOTg&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1T-veOKfzU&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-c7YR2eJq_4&feature=related

Pomplamoose did some adds for Hyundai. Thought you might be interested.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THAky3XYOTg&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1T-veOKfzU&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-c7YR2eJq_4&feature=related

>> ^robbersdog49:

What is it with American cars? I can routinely get 40mpg out of my VW golf without trying, and it's not a diesel. That's just normal driving around. It would help if he drove a manual.


i drove a vw golf (well a gti, but same deal in this case) for 11 years and consistently got around 22 mpg, maybe like 25-30 if it was all highway driving. this was a 1999, mk4 body style, 2.0 liter engine, automatic. so its not some "american car" thing. your car was either magical, or you're a hell of an exaggerator. or you're talking about a european version that doesn't have the restrictions on exhaust like cars sold in america.

new cars are better, some production cars are now getting rated at over 40 mpg highway without hybrid or diesel engines (hyundai sonata, and chevy cruze i believe).

and back on topic, this hyper miling stuff looks dangerous as hell. too much driving without the engine on and suddenly your power steering and power braking might go out.

That's a lot of Hyundais.