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chingalera says...

His hits came fast 'n furious when there was music that make fun of itself so hard....His schtick is dated but he's ingrained in musical satire with all of the greats-

Short List that pops to mind from as many eras I can muster without google:

Rosemary Clooney
Betty Hutton
The Residents
Spinal Tap
Shel Silverstein
Mrs.Alva Miller
Garfunkel and Oats
Tom Lehrer
Jimmy Fallon
Louden Wainwright Jr.
Biff Rose (I cheated)

List goes on but my brain won't...

Fallon kills me with this;
http://videosift.com/video/Neil-Young-Bruce-Springsteen-Whip-My-Hair

lucky760 said:

Weird Al's never disappoints (except with ~75% of the tracks on each of his last several albums).

Bill Nye: Creationism Is Just Wrong!

shinyblurry says...

How can we have a substantive conversation if you're not willing to put in any effort to actually understand the subject matter, either for or against? If you're content with your blind faith in whatever scientists tell you, then you're just as dogmatic as you accuse me of being. The video I provided is very good and it chronicles the history of deep time, as well as the science behind it, in exacting detail using the methodology of geologists. You could watch 10 minutes of it, and if you decided you didn't like it, you could turn it off.

As far as the paradigm shift goes, here is a quote from the father of uniformitarianism, Charles Lyell:

I am sure you may get into Q.R. [Quarterly Review] what will free the science from Moses, for if treated seriously, the [church] party are quite prepared for it. A bishop, Buckland ascertained (we suppose [Bishop] Sumner), gave Ure a dressing in the British Critic and Theological Review. They see at last the mischief and scandal brought on them by Mosaic systems … . Probably there was a beginning—it is a metaphysical question, worthy of a theologian—probably there will be an end. Species, as you say, have begun and ended—but the analogy is faint and distant. Perhaps it is an analogy, but all I say is, there are, as Hutton said, ‘no signs of a beginning, no prospect of an end’ … . All I ask is, that at any given period of the past, don’t stop inquiry when puzzled by refuge to a ‘beginning,’ which is all one with ‘another state of nature,’ as it appears to me. But there is no harm in your attacking me, provided you point out that it is the proof I deny, not the probability of a beginning … . I was afraid to point the moral, as much as you can do in the Q.R. about Moses. Perhaps I should have been tenderer about the Koran. Don’t meddle much with that, if at all.

If we don’t irritate, which I fear that we may (though mere history), we shall carry all with us. If you don’t triumph over them, but compliment the liberality and candour of the present age, the bishops and enlightened saints will join us in despising both the ancient and modern physico-theologians. It is just the time to strike, so rejoice that, sinner as you are, the Q.R. is open to you.

P.S. … I conceived the idea five or six years ago [1824–25], that if ever the Mosaic geology could be set down without giving offence, it would be in an historical sketch, and you must abstract mine, in order to have as little to say as possible yourself. Let them feel it, and point the moral.”

As you can plainly see, Charles was scheming to deceive the church into accepting his uniformitarian theories even though he knew they contradicted scripture. He wasn't interested in a scientific investigation of the facts:

From a lecture in King’s College London in 1832

I have always been strongly impressed with the weight of an observation of an excellent writer and skillful geologist who said that ‘for the sake of revelation as well as of science—of truth in every form—the physical part of Geological inquiry ought to be conducted as if the Scriptures were not in existence

He had an agenda and his bias is plain to see. He completely excluded the testimony of scripture apriori before he even began. That is the beginning of why there was a shift in geology as the intelligentsia embraced his theories and began to teach it at Universities. There was no spectacular confirmation of any of this; in fact the evidence he gave about Niagra Falls to supprt his theory has been completely falsified.

messenger said:

That doesn't sound like circular reasoning to you?

It would sound circular if none of those had any other basis for their timelines other than each other, which, not being an expert, I have to guess is not the case. You, the one making the enormous claim that the entire field of geology is unscientific, have to demonstrate that.

Tony Benn: If you wont broadcast the Gaza appeal then I will

Tony Benn: If you wont broadcast the Gaza appeal then I will

Irishman says...

The BBC, prior to the Hutton enquiry, would have aired this appeal. Bravery not only to the brilliant Tony Benn, but to the news editors that got him on there knowing full well what he was going to do.

The BBC coverage of this conflict all but stopped after the initial 3 days.

Betty Hutton - Can't Stop Talkin About Him

Happy Birthday Choggie! (Eia Talk Post)

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Betty Hutton - "Doctor, Lawyer, Indian Chief"

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a collective about the mind (Sift Talk Post)

choggie says...

medical science
industrial engineering
cosmotology
forgery
veterinary forensics

micro manage trhe world!


For all you folks asking about how my posts fit into my own collective...(1 hr live jazz film with Horace Silver, and Cab Calloway, etc) if you have not already guessed, I roll in a non-linear fashion, and the wildness of Cab Calloway for his time, of Betty Hutton, of Be-Bop, 3rd stream, and fusion of the jazz scene in the 50's and 60's, all fit into my ideas of the wild west....I.E. western Hemisphere......cowboy stuff fits too, as well as wild children, animals, or political leaders, Nazis, leaders of facist socialist regimes bent on world domination (China, N. Korea-otherwise known as Human-Hating assholes).....gee, you think in China I could talk shit about their leaders??? Or could I waltz over to N. Korea, stand in the square, and shout, "Kim is a Dickweed!!" without getting beaten or imprisoned???? Perhaps.....I am an American goddamnit, and still proud of it.....but give that shit a few years....what with the past couple of generations that my country has produced, we are headed down a rocky road with idiots at the helm, and putties to feed them the raw materials.....blood, sweat, and BRRRAAAAIAINNS!

Fiona Apple - Fast As You Can, director Paul Thomas Anderson

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