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Tracey Spicer on society's expectations of women

chingalera says...

First of all, I'd like to point-out that once the lovely Ms. Spicer here took of that hideously frumpy dress, got rid of her patina of shellac and wet her hair, she suddenly became much comelier and glamorous and down-to-earth sexy for me personally, as I have ALWAYS gravitated towards women who shun make-up who looked like they just threw-on their favorite comfortable clothes, and could give a fuck about what anyone thinks about how they should look or act.

Any man who thinks otherwise is most-likely, a superficial and abusive fucking douchebag who will invariably seek-out the female form of douchbag, and have lots of power, money, and influence in either politics, banking, sales/insurance, or some other form of criminal activity which does nothing for the planet except create more douchebag children who will turn into bigger douchebag adults than their sheit-scumbag parents ever dreamed. This is a huge phenom in the current planetary paradigm and has been going-on for centuries to create the dysfunctional western civilization we enjoy today, cascading into insanity and oblivion, a world controlled by completely evil pieces of shit.

Here's the real-deal Trancecoach and it's in-line with Bill Burr's idea of an 'epidemic of gold-digging whores' routine so popular here among sift-voters, because it's all true. Assholes and douchebags wield enormous power and control over the rest of us honest and capable peeps on the planet because people in-general, don't know who they are or why they think and act the way they do, because as victims of abuse both physical and psychological, they give their own energy and power over to these cunts who are ass-raping the planet with their lies and egos, their narcissism and toxic personalities.

These hopelessly evil humans have been very successful in programming the herd-mokeys as well to aspire to become cunts, douchbags, and assholes just like themselves, as evidenced in the inordinate amount of these gullible mini-versions running loose on the globe and breeding like fruit flies.

This phenomenon is endemic in the west, the Middle East, China and South America, and it will get way worse before it gets any better.

Bill Moyers & Richard Wolff: Taming Capitalism Run Wild

alien_concept says...

I know next to nothing about economics, but after watching a couple of videos with Prof. Wolff, I have to say my interest is piqued. Along with outrage and something akin to hopelessness.

i had a black dog-his name was depression

dannym3141 says...

A particularly bad day, sorry for my earlier comment.

I think i was trying to make the suggestion that i don't see it as a weapon against depression because if you're depressed - or at least, depressed as i know it - then you can't feel hope. There is no hope, and if you can feel hope for something then you're not depressed. I tear my hear out when i hear people saying something to the effect of "My dog died, i'm depressed!" I want to grab them and shake them and tell them they're SAD about something and oh GOD do i wish it was as simple as feeling sad about something.

Of course, this is only my viewpoint on it and it may be self centred. I can't in all fairness force my own definition on the word depression - it means whatever humans use it to mean, as is the way language works. But i feel like it puts an unfair label onto people feeling utter, raw hopelessness when other people can say that they're depressed because of this particular thing, and how brave they are for carrying on regardless or "beating depression."

If you've ever seen no point in getting out of bed because there is nothing in the world for any price or in any imagined daydream that could make you feel better. Not the power to resurrect a lost one, or the power to make someone fall in love with you, the ability to conjure money, a holodeck with sex capabilities - nothing. If you've ever sat with tears falling from your eyes - not crying though; not breathing differently, not choking your words or furrowing your brow - and you don't know why.... Then i think you have every right to feel contempt for the person who feels sad because of a particular thing that happened to them calling their sadness "depression."

I know what you mean though. I didn't expect to see such good comments about it. It's good to talk!

shinyblurry said:

That's why hope is the most effective weapon against depression. If you can find some hope you can fight against the depression. Depression is at its core, hopelessness.

i had a black dog-his name was depression

shinyblurry says...

That's why hope is the most effective weapon against depression. If you can find some hope you can fight against the depression. Depression is at its core, hopelessness.

dannym3141 said:

Meaningless. If someone knew of something to hope for that would make them feel better, they wouldn't be depressed.Also this black dog that sometimes takes joy out of things that usually give pleasure. That seems a hell of a lot better than not getting pleasure from things at all.

Science Vlogger reads her comments

entr0py says...

Unlike normal human beings trolls do not seek the approval of others, rather they thrive on condemnation. That's what feeding the trolls is.

And that's why the conventional wisdom is not to engage trolls. But, she has made me rethink that. By engaging trolls you at the very least give some solidarity and support to the victim. And by ignoring them there's the risk of giving the impression that we find their degrading sexual harassment acceptable.

Hard to know what to do. I think all you can do is give up on the hopelessly toxic social environments like youtube comment sections.

The Horrifying Secret 'The Matrix' Reveals About Humanity

entr0py says...

It's not hopeless though. Maybe we can work towards a world where nearly everyone is above average.

poolcleaner said:

And that is life. Unless you're a doctor. In which case, you're dedicated to saving the lives of the mediocre. Or you're a physicist and furthering the understanding and/or saving the lives of the mediocre.

Or worse, you're making mediocre people even more mediocre with modern inventions that make their already easy lives even easier.

Or you're helping research knowledge with the inevitable goal of becoming a space faring people, to spread our ideas of mediocrity to the galaxy -- and beyond!

Are the humans dead yet?

Two brothers make awesome best man video

nanrod says...

So true. Things like this always make me feel hopelessly inadequate by comparison

azukipie said:

Upon viewing this I had to immediately write my brother and apologize for my EPIC failure at his wedding in comparison. AMAZING!

Bible Slavery: It's A Totally Different Thing!!

chingalera says...

Not so, slavery in the U.S. was historically unique in it's brutality and scope and the descendants of slaves live in another form of subjugation under the guise of rights under the law and equality. The system in place now insures that black people in the U.S. will be treated to inordinate scrutiny as citizens and extraordinary rendition in the form of profiling, imprisonment both physically or economically, and an unsurpassed recidivism in the Petri dish of criminals which is, the U.S. Prison Corporation, ltd., which only serves to justify more prisons to warehouse undesirables.

Except for perhaps Chinese dynasties during the construction of the wall other examples of slavery in history, even biblical slavery...Rome, Greece, these societies did not treat their slaves to the hopelessness we in America treated the Africans to.

If you consider slavery 'wrong' you might want to look at how well maintained your own existence has become-Slavery has simply become your indentured duty to invisible masters as you pay-to-play the game of life.
The slave masters of today do not carry whips or pistols but he still works you for long, unending hours and enjoys the fruits of your labor at day's end.

CreamK said:

About 4 minutes was just repeat and trying to come to a punchline that we all realised.. and then it never came.

To Chingalera: Slaves are slaves, it is and always has been wrong no matter how well you treat them. The point of this story is not slavery but inequality that's inherit in the Old Testament and it's many stories.. Men were not created to be equal, according to bible but simply who ever told the story was superior and had Gods given rights to be superior, no matter what they did to other tribes, it was justified. Kind of like.. well.. christian countries do: be equal and fair towards the people inside your country.

A typical Bulgarian wedding dance

rebuilder says...

@chingalera: Yes, fit, healthy people setting themselves on fire in the streets because their lives seem so hopeless!

OK, OK, that's an outlier, but Bulgaria isn't exactly paradise, either. They do seem to know a thing or two about weddings, though!

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Procrastinatron says...

@alien_concept

Thanks! I was struggling to come up with a username, and then I just decided to accept my true nature.

And this is a timeless issue that I think we've all run into at times. A woman comes to a man to talk about her emotions. The man sees that she has a problem, and tries to help her solve it. This frustrates the woman - she only wanted to share her troubles with him, and she feels insulted that he would assume she is incapable of solving her own problems. This, in turn, frustrates the man; after all, why would she come to him if she won't accept his help? He's sincerely doing his best, and he feels that she is being unfair and overly emotional.

A fight ensues, and neither party understands how it even happened, or how to find a way out of it.

And as I have a VERY emotional mother and VERY rational father, I've been on both sides, as well as in the middle, of this conflict many times.

As for Assange, he once said that Sweden is the "Saudi Arabia of feminism," and having grown up here, I can vouch for the veracity of that statement.

It has gotten to the point here that most guys are just too afraid to stand up to even the most obvious acts of bigotry because the one-way sexism has become so widely accepted. We're only left with three choices; we either accept the abuse and join in it ourselves, or we simply give up and take it with a sort of hopeless resignation.

Since I can't stand to be victimized, I favour the third option; pointing out the bullshit and then riposting with facts, logic and righteous anger.

But I've had some utterly INSANE examples of sexism happen in the classroom, including a teacher derailing a lecture right at the beginning of it and instead spending her entire hour to essentially claim that all men are either rapists or potential rapists, and as a guy, it's just difficult to know what to do in that situation.

It's also very hurtful, as I find rape to be one of the most despicable acts imaginable.

And... that's why my reaction to this guy's poem was so strong. It's like he's been abused for so long that he's begun to think that it's actually true.

You gave your son a very good answer! Men and women are different from one another (though this isn't entirely set in stone), and I think that anybody who claims otherwise simply prefers ideology or fantasy (same thing, really) over reality.

And for what it's worth, I think those differences are pretty freaking valuable. I love women, and part of the reason for that is the fact that they aren't men.

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Bill Maher destroyed by Glenn Greenwald on US interventionis

Chairman_woo says...

There are also sects of Buddhism that advocate torture, execution and public humiliation (The former Tibetan ruling class springing firmly to mind). Sadly it seems even the most peaceful of philosophies can still be trumped by psychotic self righteousness & mindless tradition .

I'm not aware of any specific Sufi sects having executed or tortured people for blasphemy, adultery etc. but I fear such groups likely exist somewhere if one were to go looking for them.

In general I have a healthy degree of respect for "Sufism" because it follows the same kind of esoteric approach to religion/spirituality/knowledge as it's western (Gnostic) and far eastern (Tao, Hindu*, Buddhist etc.) counterparts.

Very roughly "Esoteric religion" is based around looking inwards for knowledge and lends itself naturally to scientific enquiry, considered ethics, critical thinking etc.
When they speak of a higher power it is almost always in terms of something fundamentally connected to and embodied by yourself.
They almost never suggest one need feel threatened by divine judgement, or that some should be privileged over others (*hence the Hindu caste system being not being truly esoteric)

"Exoteric religion" (most of Islam, Judaism, Christianity etc.) is by contrast based around looking outside oneself for knowledge. Truth is revealed by outside agents, divinity and true power always lie outside of oneself. etc. etc. (I'm sure I don't need to further elucidate the negative qualities of such belief systems )


In truth all of the major denominations appear to have at least some some esoteric and exoteric variations even if most fall mostly into one or the other. There are bad Buddhists & Gnostics and there are good Muslims and Christians the only difference really is whether or not they are genuinely applying their own minds and judgement, or hopelessly enslaved to another's.
Or in "someone" else's terms Logos and Mythos.

Back on topic: Bill Maher is Mythos masquerading as Logos.

bcglorf said:

Do you know what the Sufi positions on blasphemy and converting away from the faith are? I'm guessing it's very likely to be the death sentence position. It's disheartening looking across at Islam and trying to look for the moderates and discovering just how many claim moderate status while promoting the death sentence for blasphemy.

What To Do While Waiting For Police

chingalera says...

Don't mind the name-calling boobage-Don't even care about the regurgitated "NRA" "GUN SELLERS" nyah, nhya, nyah's...
The same yakka-yakkka comes out of the most virulently neurotic and hopelessly programmed to comply with misdirection and half-truths geeks-Don't let it get you down, if yer called a troll then yer pushing buttons stiff from years of disuse!
*promote

Actual Gun/Violent Crime Statistics - (U.S.A. vs U.K.)

RonB says...

That is how a Democrat would view it. As an independent I see culpability with both major political parties. Democrats are to blame for high crime rates in these economically depressed areas, because they are the engineers and enablers of the system which keeps poor people poor and robs them of ambition. Without an economically disadvantaged and undereducated class of voters, Democrats would have a much lower voter base.

Most of the crime committed is not done for survival. Most crime is a result of a gang culture. Gang cultures are the result of lack of education, disparity in the justice system, hopelessness, collapse of family units (which results in the need of place to belong), lack of employment prospects, etc. Both parties are at fault for not properly addressing the underlying causes of crime.

Republicans have the right idea in trying to limit social welfare programs. The problem is that they are looking at it from the standpoint of dealing with those who are collecting benefits. The problem needs to be addressed in altering the mindset and futures of the youth with a result to be seen in a generation and not a presidential term. It has taken generations of Democrat sponsored social philanthropy through a massive benefits sytem to get us to this point. It will take at least a generation to begin to get out of it.

RFlagg said:

The problem is poverty as he noted. The problem then is that the Republicans don't care about the working poor, and see them as leaches and want to cut the programs that help them survive without having to resort to crime.

New Rules 1/18/13

chingalera says...

Whenever I hear someone quote some Harvard Law prof or someone touting the idea that framers of the constitution did not mean for folks to own guns for anything but a militia, I have to simply laugh. It's obvious what they meant and if you brought back a group of school children from the Revolutionary war period and let them have look at the state of affairs of this little experiment, they'd wonder what has been put into the water supply to render seemingly intelligent people of today, hopelessly confused and gullible.

A well-regulated militia: The 18th-century equivalent to the U.S. Armed Forces perhaps??

DC v. Heller (2008)
U.S. v. Miller (1939)
U.S. v. Cruikshank (1875)

A few Supreme court rulings above to peruse and lest we forget, in order to change the document, you do so by amendment. the 18th made alcohol illegal and the 22nd made it fine for adults to drink alcohol again....a right and privilege of people since the motherfucking beginning of civilization...HELLO!!???

Yeah, they can take our guns, O' America and the dark hour (if it comes in my lifetime) everyone signs off on it is the day I move to fucking Canada Mexico, Belize, Nicaragua, COSTA RICA??....Fuck, anywhere white people aren't retarded drunk on 21st Century Kool-Aid HIstory with a government years away from buggering them!

May have to tunnel into the earth's crust to find such a place as more insane the world becomes daily.



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