"Believe it or not, I have fond memories of Miller beer..."

I'll pray for you.

Funny, but I was just thinking about how people have their preferences. I was talking to a girl the other day and I told her that I liked "herb." She seemed to like me at first, but suddenly cooled down after I said that. I can't remember what she said, but she basically equated pot smokers with losers.

I was trying to think of an analogy between the weed and how different people like different types of alcohol.

I can drink vodka all day, never feel drunk, and fall of my barstool suddenly shitfaced. Can't stand the smell of bourbon whiskey, but I love scotch. Scotch makes me like to argue. Tequila makes me like to laugh and dance. Beer is just a stand-by. Don't hate wine, but I don't really understand it--I'm just not the kind of guy who will ever spend a lot of money on a bottle of wine.

And by the by...the number 13 has been tragically maligned for far too long.

Bravo. 3 herbs and spices, mmmmm.

Is it just me, or is Bill getting slightly.... off ... lately? First his bizarre rant extolling the virtues of alternative medicine like herbs and ... freaking accupuncture or something as ACTUAL cures to ailments... and now with this bizarre America-centric notion that we are the only targets of terror in the world.. and not just that, but the reason we are targeted is because they LIKE US TOO MUCH?

Bill, you need to get more sleep or something, no one on your panel of highly informed individuals took your argument seriously, and people feel like they have to nod politely at Bill Maher of all people, before ignoring his argument and discussion more serious ideas, he needs to take a long hard look in the mirror and decide if he still likes what he's doing.

I say this out of love of course, Bill was often a source of truth in the past decade that was in very short supply anywhere else. But he's starting to lose his edge.

The argument that medicine exhibits some bias toward treatments that are patentable and thus financially rewarding to develop seems reasonable. For example, drugs are patentable, unlike herbs, but those kinds of reasonable arguments are undermined by all the associated supernaturalism and appeal to nature fallacies.

I think the pick up artists like this guy are pretty smart: http://roissy.wordpress.com/2009/09/04/herb-attack/

It's not about manipulating people, it's about giving them what they want.

Of course, any intellectual model like that can be used well or abused, but people should be aware of it.

I guess the cops had nothing better to do.

Stuff like this is so asinine that it will prove to be a national embarrassment for years to come.

I thought that a place like Washington would be a lot more hip regarding the herb, but I guess I'm wrong.

New Mexico is so backwards that they tried to establish a single cannabis provider for the entire state; they ran out of herb, and now about 500 people are going without. Some people would laugh at that, but in New Mexico you basically have to be dying before they'll let you have access to the MM program.

Really pathetic.

(and I can't wait for the nitwit to come along and write that “anybody can get weed any time they want in America, if they really want it.” God forbid I go a single day without reading some form of rightwing idiocy)

I support only lethal injection with tasty herbs and breading.

Now think, if it was legalized, regulated, and taxed - they could take ALL of that pot from the schmuck growing it and make a huge profit. But no, they burn it. A *dark day for de herbs.

This is from my work computer. I should do this again at home.

1. Johnny Moore - Sold To The Highest Bidder
Great country track with a auctioneer vocalization speaking at 400 words per minute.

2. Easy Star All-Stars - Airbag
Dub stars made an album full of Radiohead covers called Radiodread. It works.

3. Bruno Nicolai - Indio Black
Funky 60s/70s theme for a TV show I believe. Think OST for The Good, The Bad and the Ugly.

4. Mathew Jonson - Decompression
Minimal techno from M_nus

5. Mad Doctor X - Deejays and Emcees
Remember puffin the herb from human traffic? This guy made it. UK hip hop.

6. Unknown Artist - Track 1
I believe this is from the OST for Chronos by Ron Fricke. But I found it in a compilation by Stay in Bed called Telepathic Fish.

7. The Field - Mobilia.
From the aptly titled From here we go sublime. I was pleasantly surprised by this album. Great trippy dance tracks.

8. Niyaz - Allah Mazare
Ethnic Farsi modernized music along the lines of Dead Can Dance. Haunting vocals.

9. Track 13 - Pirates of the 21st Century
OST from a classic Russian action film. Instrumental.

10. Nelly Furtado - Maneater.
Am a sucker for Timbaland beats. This one is particularly good.

ABBA: where rastaman store him herb

>> ^burdturgler:
Making fun of people who "believe" in homeopathy feels like disinformation to me. Turn them all into loons so that no one demands alternatives. Most drugs are derivatives of plants, herbs, trees etc. They were all "homeopathic" at one point. If he said "isolate the salicylic acid from the bark of a willow tree" that would sound funny too. Unfortunately now it takes upwards of a billion dollars to get something through the FDA. I don't know what that answer is, we can't have people selling dangerous and ineffective crap, but that doesn't mean that everything "homeopathic" doesn't work.


You're talking about Naturopathy... herbs have effects, yes... it is plausible.

The thing about Homeopathy though, is that if it's truly homeopathic according to the rules set down when it was invented... there really is no way it could work. Any active ingredients are diluted to the point that there is only water left.

Some products are labeled homeopathic, but actually have enough drugs in there to still do something. The only difference, then, between these falsely-labeled homeopathic treatments, herbal remedies, and the drugs you get from your pharmacy is that the homeopathic treatments and herbs are "alternative" and therefore, not regulated for safety by the FDA. Given the choice, I would go with the mainstream drugs which have been tested more thoroughly.

Zicam users recently fell afoul of a dearth of safety testing. Zicam was falsely labeled homeopathic, but it actually had measurable levels of zinc in it. People shot it up their nose and lost their sense of smell.

>> ^rougy:
I don't think it's all bullshit. I think a lot of it probably works.
That "Ice Man" they found in Swiss country many years ago had tattoos on the pressure points well known to accupuncturists. He had herbs in his belly that were very useful for a common sickness (something to do with worms, I think).

Right well... it didn't work for him then, did it?

But seriously... you're not serious right?
Pure fallacious argument from antiquity. Just because an idea like acupuncture has been around along time doesn't mean it is correct. We don't exempt it from testing and possible scientific invalidation just 'cause some Ancient culture has done it for thousands of years.

Making fun of people who "believe" in homeopathy feels like disinformation to me. Turn them all into loons so that no one demands alternatives. Most drugs are derivatives of plants, herbs, trees etc. They were all "homeopathic" at one point. If he said "isolate the salicylic acid from the bark of a willow tree" that would sound funny too. Unfortunately now it takes upwards of a billion dollars to get something through the FDA. I don't know what that answer is, we can't have people selling dangerous and ineffective crap, but that doesn't mean that everything "homeopathic" doesn't work.

I'm sorry, rougy, you're conflating homeopathy with acupuncture and herbal remedies. Homeopathy is a complete and utter scam from top to bottom.

Acupuncture, at best, is a placebo. No one has be able to demonstrate that it works as advertised.

And of course there are herbs that work and "natural" substances that work. And there's things like ground tiger penis that do not work. But it has little to do with homeopathy.

I don't think it's all bullshit. I think a lot of it probably works.

That "Ice Man" they found in Swiss country many years ago had tattoos on the pressure points well known to accupuncturists. He had herbs in his belly that were very useful for a common sickness (something to do with worms, I think).

Are there hucksters in homeopathy? No doubt!

Are there hucksters in the FDA & AMA approved modern drug makers?

You know the answer to that.