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Henry Rollins vs Hipsters

WKB says...

>> ^VoodooV:

I normally like Rollins but he comes off a douche here. I hate hipsters too, but damn!


I feel exactly the same way. Really disappointing to see Rollins behave like this.

He seriously thinks saying, "Henry Rollins is in the store?" and "Get in the Van," automatically means that they think Rollins is an old man sell out who is standing in the way of their hip new vibe and should just sit down and shut up? WTF?

Henry Rollins vs Hipsters

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Henry Rollins vs Hipsters

bcglorf says...

>> ^hayshaker:

I couldn't even watch the whole thing. I usually like Henry but he is a bit to full of himself here, not to mention combative and judgmental. I'll bet there are hours of old footage of Henry complaining about being judged and how the non-black flag non-punk musicians are idiots and out of touch.
to paraphrase; those who forget history are doomed to repeat it...


Same here. He pretty much comes out right from the start hating on the Hipster for being elitist. I can respect that, in fact, I share the feeling. Problem is it becomes increasingly clear that his objection is that he's convinced that he's the superior elitist himself, and how dare they usurp his rightful throne. Yuck.

Henry Rollins vs Hipsters

Opus_Moderandi says...

>> ^legacy0100:

THIS
IS
GODLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To be fair, Henry did approach the kids with already a preconception of what they are in his head even before talking to any of them. In fact he was actively provoking them and accusing them of these set images. Then again Rollins likes to engage. And the sad part is that despite Rollin's obvious and clear intent of provocation, they end up acting the exact same way Henry expected it to be.
They wound up validated Rollins' prejudicial point of view to the point where Rollins just had to sit back and watch them shat themselves. And Henry does something quite cruel. By showing great respect for Shirin Neshat he inversely was making it blatantly clear that he reserved no respect for what these young and impressionable kids were doing with their lives.

I'm pretty sure it was the "hipsters" doing the provoking by saying things like "Henry Rollins is in the store?" and "Get in the van!". It was only after that that he approached them. They made sure he heard them and he made sure to call them on their idiocy. Seems to me he was fighting fire with fire.

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SDGundamX (Member Profile)

NinjaInHeat says...

You're right, about pretty much everything you said, but there's no better or worse here, there's a person and his willingness to make "his world" better. Will I receive less support when I need it most if I turn my back on most people in my community, of course, that is unfortunately not reason enough for me to not do so seeing as I hate my community. I can be a "better" person, I can say hi to my neighbors, I can help people out, I can do lots of shit, I just don't want to in most cases. It's not some fierce ideology, it's just me as a person reacting to how I feel about my fellow man (which is usually disgust). Don't get me wrong, I don't go out of my way to fuck people over, and I'm not an asshole generally, but I will go out of my way to remain passive, just the thought of associating myself with other people in some common goal makes me sick. Human kind is a mass of retarded flesh from which occasionally there gets spewed a decent chunk, a free thinker, someone I can respect. Ignoring everyone but those few can be considered childish, but in my eyes it's not an option, it's either that or to be constantly consumed by rage and frustration, the world of tomorrow doesn't really enter the equation...

In reply to this comment by SDGundamX:
Your "world," like mine, is probably composed of friends and relatives. That is what I meant by "world," your personal world. And yes, the "world" (your friends and family) will come and help you when you're in a pinch if you've taken the time to carefully forge those connections (and they won't if you haven't). And in fact the greater world at large may come and help you too--but certainly not if you've been turning your back on it and free-riding the whole time.

I'm not asking you to fix society. I'm simply telling you if you want to live in a better "world" (in the personal sense), you can start making changes right where you are. You could say "hi" to your neighbors and get to know them better. You could help clean up trash in your neighborhood. Basically, you can improve your "local" world. Do something. Do anything. Get other people to do something with you (friends or family). And encourage them to get others to do something. Like I said, doesn't have to be huge or take a lot of time. The thing is, it's those collections of individual choices on a grand scale that shape our society. By improving your local "world" you in fact help improve the world at large as well.

As an aside, there's nothing wrong with being egocentric. That was the whole point of my post. If you truly are egocentric you'll realize your happiness in fact rests a great deal on the stability and happiness of the community in which you reside. It's in your best interest to make sure things don't go down the shitter. And (you'll just have to take my word for this) it actually turns out to be a lot more fun than whatever it was you were doing by yourself.

In reply to this comment by NinjaInHeat:
SDGundamX: The "world" doesn't back you up when you're in a pinch. And yes, individual actions do matter, and the world won't become a better place if people sit around and do nothing. I guess all I have to say is that
a: lucky thing the entire world isn't like myself
b: if you're willing to spend time and energy towards making this world a better place to live in (mostly for future generations as actual change takes bucketloads of time), good for you, I'm not, again, I have more egocentric things on my mind, and I lack the will to try and fix a society I feel completely alienated from.


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SDGundamX says...

Your "world," like mine, is probably composed of friends and relatives. That is what I meant by "world," your personal world. And yes, the "world" (your friends and family) will come and help you when you're in a pinch if you've taken the time to carefully forge those connections (and they won't if you haven't). And in fact the greater world at large may come and help you too--but certainly not if you've been turning your back on it and free-riding the whole time.

I'm not asking you to fix society. I'm simply telling you if you want to live in a better "world" (in the personal sense), you can start making changes right where you are. You could say "hi" to your neighbors and get to know them better. You could help clean up trash in your neighborhood. Basically, you can improve your "local" world. Do something. Do anything. Get other people to do something with you (friends or family). And encourage them to get others to do something. Like I said, doesn't have to be huge or take a lot of time. The thing is, it's those collections of individual choices on a grand scale that shape our society. By improving your local "world" you in fact help improve the world at large as well.

As an aside, there's nothing wrong with being egocentric. That was the whole point of my post. If you truly are egocentric you'll realize your happiness in fact rests a great deal on the stability and happiness of the community in which you reside. It's in your best interest to make sure things don't go down the shitter. And (you'll just have to take my word for this) it actually turns out to be a lot more fun than whatever it was you were doing by yourself.

In reply to this comment by NinjaInHeat:
SDGundamX: The "world" doesn't back you up when you're in a pinch. And yes, individual actions do matter, and the world won't become a better place if people sit around and do nothing. I guess all I have to say is that
a: lucky thing the entire world isn't like myself
b: if you're willing to spend time and energy towards making this world a better place to live in (mostly for future generations as actual change takes bucketloads of time), good for you, I'm not, again, I have more egocentric things on my mind, and I lack the will to try and fix a society I feel completely alienated from.


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SDGundamX says...

The problem I've always had with that point of view is that if you turn your back on the world because you think it's not worth the effort to make it better, then you can't at all be surprised when the world turns its back on you when you're in a pinch. You create the world you choose to live in. If you choose to create a world of indifference, then you reap what you sow.

We can't turn our backs on the world because we're a PART of the world, which is what he's trying to say. You could close your eyes and ignore it and try to work only for your own happiness--and you might be even be able to succeed for a little while and be happy. But at some point the world you've been ignoring is going to come along mess everything up like, for example, when some gangbanger's stray bullet hits your house or when fundamentalist religious zealots from a country on the other side of the world decide to fly planes into two skyscrapers in your city.

More than at anytime in our history, humankind has come to find that we are all interconnected. Our individual actions DO matter because our collective actions as individuals shape the world: take global warming as just one example.

The world certainly won't become a better place if people sit around and do nothing. Like he says in the video, greatness is found when we don't close our eyes but work with others and help each other to make this world a better place. I personally happen to believe that that is also the only way to true happiness as well.

>> ^NinjaInHeat:

where do people like him find the strength to care is beyond me. All true and nice but when it comes down to it, the world is full of shit, people are shit more often than not and yea I'd probably sooner find myself giving up on it all and just trying to make the most out of my life in the most egocentric way than helping make it a better tomorrow. That Tomorrow is so far away it's science fiction, I just wanna get drunk and listen to some music.

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