In reply to this comment by geo321:
interesting.
Thanks for that geo321.
I'm glad you could watch it, my view says video is not available

You have been awarded 1 Power Point for fixing the embed code for Dead Pool video Craig Ferguson Revives Hansons FAMOUS song MMMBOP!. Thank you for helping maintain VideoSift's reliability.

Conversations with Choggie
I promised below that if I got another abusive email from choggie, I would post the entirety of "conversation" we had after his ban, which was around may 5th. Here it is.

He is ignored and blocked from my email from now on.

No drama, no more conversation. It's over. That last repeating part was also in the emails, in case someone wonders.

choggie kendall <redacted> Tue, May 18, 2010 at 4:29 AM
To: Nicki Thomas Hansen <gwiz665@gmail.com>
Yer post and jab at Texas....the drones???...Old news-happened 3 years ago-Why not do a follow-up? Where are hey now? You know...real information instead of pussy-whipped tones and jabs at shit you haven't a clue about?.....yer a fucking retard and one of the poster children of he VS's languorous demise.

am time. take a hard look inna mirror at all the things you hate about the world.And, all the things you cherish....not hard to be a human being...instead of a monkey doing.

Nicki Hansen <gwiz665@gmail.com> Tue, May 18, 2010 at 8:59 AM
To: choggie kendall <redacted>
Hello Choggie.

I don't care about your opinions. Take them somewhere else.

choggie kendall <redacted> Sat, May 22, 2010 at 2:22 AM
To: Nicki Hansen <gwiz665@gmail.com>
Y'know dickweed?? Yer a fucking pussy who does not know HOW to have a conversation in real-time with a human being. You simply make comments on the VS and imagine yourself clever based on the little clique's response....You are unwilling, not incapable of understanding. I don't care about you lack of awareness either-I use putzs like yourself as a barometer for the world's social dysfunction-You fucking tit-grabbing, raised on porn little, shit talking faggot.

Good luck as a fucking software putz. You are bound to become fatter, more uncomely, and diseased in the profession of your choosing...that of sitting in a computer chair most of your fucking life.

I don't even know why I bother to try to help socially dysfunctional asshats.....You rate about a fucking 7.6 on the 1-10 scale.....Fucking douchebag-wannabee twit.


Nicki Hansen <gwiz665@gmail.com> Sat, May 22, 2010 at 9:57 AM
To: choggie kendall <redacted>
Hah, you must really miss the sift, so you can get your bile out there. I'm far better at holding a conversation than you are, as clearly evidenced in the diatribe below. YOU need to grow the fuck up. I am not unwilling to "understand" it's just that you have nothing worth understanding.

Now, go away. I don't care about your opinions, I don't care how you measure me, I don't care anymore that you only can get people to react to you, by insulting them. It's sad really, but it's not my problem, it's yours.

Good bye.

choggie kendall <redacted> Sun, May 23, 2010 at 2:20 AM
To: Nicki Hansen <gwiz665@gmail.com>
"This dickwad is still abusing me in emails, so I hope it's completely permanent. At least I will do my hardest to make it so.
If I receive any more emails from him, I will post the entirety here for all to see, just so you can get a measure of the man."

Let me oblige you, drama queen. First, here's your response-

"Hah, you must really miss the sift, so you can get your bile out there. I'm far better at holding a conversation than you are, as clearly evidenced in the diatribe below. YOU need to grow the fuck up. I am not unwilling to "understand" it's just that you have nothing worth understanding.
Now, go away. I don't care about your opinions, I don't care how you measure me, I don't care anymore that you only can get people to react to you, by insulting them. It's sad really, but it's not my problem, it's yours.

Good bye.-Nikki"

Now a point by point-First-Litter my dead account with grafitti-Tattle-tail, tattle tail, hang yer britches onna nail...It's indicative of the immature and vindictive to tell others of the invisible bully -Tell the big people so they will fight your battles for you-You can't seem to handle any confrontation, or observations that don't make you feel warm and fuzzy......Hard to experience acceptance i the real world, butyou internet buddies with nothing to lose, will rush to your defense.

You've never held a conversation with me Hanson, on the contrary...you tend to nut the fuck up when reading concepts foreign to you. A sign of developmental disability. Insulting you? Perception baby-Never desired to do so, every time I chose to enter into conversation with you, you ran the fuck away....(Quite the bith to have yer shit shoved up your ass-Dish out and unable to take? Perhaps.

No, dumb-ass, Unless you call "abuse" the one fucking e-mail....yer a drama sponge, it's understandable...you can't help it would seem. Maturity comes with wisdom. (Grow a pair, nancy)

And here...so you have the original email to post for all to see.....how bout do it inna blog that's not un-editable by me-In fact, I'll make it simple for ya-I shall request that the admins eliminate my entire account, dead as it is, so the very memory of someone you are incapable of responding to, can't upset your perfect, fantasy world.

Choggies one email to gwiz665-
"Y'know dickweed?? Yer a fucking pussy who does not know HOW to have a conversation in real-time with a human being. You simply make comments on the VS and imagine yourself clever based on the little clique's response....You are unwilling, not incapable of understanding. I don't care about you lack of awareness either-I use putzs like yourself as a barometer for the world's social dysfunction-You fucking tit-grabbing, raised on porn little, shit talking faggot.

Good luck as a fucking software putz. You are bound to become fatter, more uncomely, and diseased in the profession of your choosing...that of sitting in a computer chair most of your fucking life.

I don't even know why I bother to try to help socially dysfunctional asshats.....You rate about a fucking 7.6 on the 1-10 scale.....Fucking douchebag-wannabee twit."

Nicki Hansen <gwiz665@gmail.com> Sun, May 23, 2010 at 2:51 AM
To: choggie kendall <redacted>
I think you're the one living in a fantasy world, where you can say anything you want to anybody without consequence. My message on your profile was not aimed at you, but at the people who worship you as some sort of golden calf and who obviously haven't seen you being a cockmunch, like you are - yet again - in this reply.

The first real conversation we had was when you approached me on google chat about the peggedbea shit, and YOU were the one who ran away from the conversation. If you can't hold a conversation without dicking people around, it's not worth it to have a conversation with you. Ever since then, I've just not wanted to engage.

YOU are the one who keeps the conversation going, You are the one seeking the drama, I don't want it, I never wanted it. Me posting on your banned user's profile was a message to your legions, not you. I don't care about you.

"You are incapable of responding to" Hah, it's pathetic. You haven't made a single cogent argument. You just spout bile and nonsense and it's tiresome.

I don't care whether or not your user is on there anymore. Frankly, it's dead and gone either way.

If I end up posting these mails I will post them all and in their entirety, not just the one you want me to. I don't expect it to come to that though, since I hope our communication ends with this.

Get over yourself and move the hell on.

choggie kendall <redacted> Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 8:57 PM
To: Nicki Thomas Hansen <gwiz665@gmail.com>
Would you be so kind as to erase your graffiti from my dormant account's profile? Seems a shame that the last comment to date on my hi-jacked former profile for all to see is a snipish, ego-compromised, spoiled brat quip from a petty little douchebag in training-
Oh and, why not make good on your promise to be a good little fascist and post these "abusive" emails you are getting from dickwad for all your little dickless minions of similar simple minds to see?

Of course, you may want to edit it for content that does not offend your delicate fucking sensibilities-
Thank You in advance-


This dickwad is still abusing me in emails, so I hope it's completely permanent. At least I will do my hardest to make it so.

If I receive any more emails from him, I will post the entirety here for all to see, just so you can get a measure of the man.This dickwad is still abusing me in emails, so I hope it's completely permanent. At least I will do my hardest to make it so.

If I receive any more emails from him, I will post the entirety here for all to see, just so you can get a measure of the man.This dickwad is still abusing me in emails, so I hope it's completely permanent. At least I will do my hardest to make it so.

If I receive any more emails from him, I will post the entirety here for all to see, just so you can get a measure of the man.This dickwad is still abusing me in emails, so I hope it's completely permanent. At least I will do my hardest to make it so.

If I receive any more emails from him, I will post the entirety here for all to see, just so you can get a measure of the man.This dickwad is still abusing me in emails, so I hope it's completely permanent. At least I will do my hardest to make it so.

If I receive any more emails from him, I will post the entirety here for all to see, just so you can get a measure of the man.This dickwad is still abusing me in emails, so I hope it's completely permanent. At least I will do my hardest to make it so.

If I receive any more emails from him, I will post the entirety here for all to see, just so you can get a measure of the man.This dickwad is still abusing me in emails, so I hope it's completely permanent. At least I will do my hardest to make it so.

If I receive any more emails from him, I will post the entirety here for all to see, just so you can get a measure of the man.This dickwad is still abusing me in emails, so I hope it's completely permanent. At least I will do my hardest to make it so.

If I receive any more emails from him, I will post the entirety here for all to see, just so you can get a measure of the man.This dickwad is still abusing me in emails, so I hope it's completely permanent. At least I will do my hardest to make it so.

If I receive any more emails from him, I will post the entirety here for all to see, just so you can get a measure of the man.This dickwad is still abusing me in emails, so I hope it's completely permanent. At least I will do my hardest to make it so.

If I receive any more emails from him, I will post the entirety here for all to see, just so you can get a measure of the man.This dickwad is still abusing me in emails, so I hope it's completely permanent. At least I will do my hardest to make it so.

If I receive any more emails from him, I will post the entirety here for all to see, just so you can get a measure of the man.This dickwad is still abusing me in emails, so I hope it's completely permanent. At least I will do my hardest to make it so.

If I receive any more emails from him, I will post the entirety here for all to see, just so you can get a measure of the man.

@silvercord, let me get this straight. Me giving my own opinion is a "filter"?
>> ^silvercord:

You used the filter again in your first paragraph when you wrongly guessed at why I pointed to Hanson's curriculum vitae. gbfunk did, after all, ask for a "conservative opinion," and not a "fair and impartial judge." I was holding up his credentials for two reasons. He is first a conservative and second, he has credentials to prove it. It is a valid conservative view.

Okay, so his CV was to prove that he was conservative, not that he was necessarily going to make valid points. Fair enough.

>> ^silvercord:
Not so by the way, the publication you referenced (The American Conservative Magazine), after apologizing for previous "rough treatment" of Hanson, goes on to call him "one of America’s premier public intellectuals." This, in an introduction to an article written by Hanson and published last November.

Wait, so his CV was about his ability to make valid points?

Let me try to make my point again without putting in the barbs, and see if you would like to respond to it directly.

The original request was for "a place to go where ... intelligent conservatives actually have valid points and constructive criticism on todays issues".

I read that as meaning that he's looking for somewhere, anywhere to regularly find commentary that:

1. Makes valid points
   
2. Contains constructive criticism
   
3. Discusses today's issues
   
4. Is written by people who are intelligent conservatives
   

I'm happy to concede that the article you linked meets that 4th criteria. I'll even say that there's an argument to be made that the 1st is met also. I contest that it meets the other two.

His CV has nothing to do with points 1-3.

You did vaguely attempt to address criteria #3 with this:
>> ^silvercord:
As to your charge that there is no critique of Obama's policies, I will leave that up to gbfunk to decide. While you may take a more legalistic approach to the word 'policy' in order to skate around some of our President's more glaring inconsistencies, I am certain the American public isn't as careful.

...but I read that as "you're right, I'm not talking about issues, but I doubt my audience will notice, so stop pointing it out."

Seriously, there's a ton to criticize about what Obama's doing without having to say "he's a liar". Hell, if the whole case you want to make is "Obama tells lies" you don't even have to dig into campaign promises. But that's not constructive criticism, and none of it is really about the issues.

For example, the statement "Obama bears responsibility for having permitted BP to do offshore drilling without having made enough of an effort to ensure that it would be safe" is a valid point. "Therefore, Obama should fire the people responsible at MMS, and put new procedures in place to ensure that oil companies follow the appropriate safety tests before operating a rig in American waters" would be constructive criticism.

I don't even know where to find the conservative policy idea to deal with what's happening in the gulf, or how they would try to prevent future problems.

All I know is that the right wants to say it's all Obama's fault, and it's Obama's Katrina, and it's not all that bad anyway so we should keep drilling, and liberals should have never blamed Bush for Katrina, and BTW, didn't Obama say during the campaign that he's opposed to offshore drilling?

Not really constructive, not really valid, and not really even about the issue. It's horrifying that so-called "intelligent conservatives" think this is the way they should talk about today's issues.

That's my point, and I daresay it was gbfunk's as well.

@NetRunner - I did address what you said. I called it the "netrunner filter." It's the filter that says, "this is how sensible people ought to view that article." Then you colored it the way you wanted us to see it. You used the filter again in your first paragraph when you wrongly guessed at why I pointed to Hanson's curriculum vitae. gbfunk did, after all, ask for a "conservative opinion," and not a "fair and impartial judge." I was holding up his credentials for two reasons. He is first a conservative and second, he has credentials to prove it. It is a valid conservative view.

As to your charge that there is no critique of Obama's policies, I will leave that up to gbfunk to decide. While you may take a more legalistic approach to the word 'policy' in order to skate around some of our President's more glaring inconsistencies, I am certain the American public isn't as careful.

Not so by the way, the publication you referenced (The American Conservative Magazine), after apologizing for previous "rough treatment" of Hanson, goes on to call him "one of America’s premier public intellectuals." This, in an introduction to an article written by Hanson and published last November.

@silvercord, I notice you don't address what I said about the article, and are holding up that guy's "credentials" as if it means someone who "has been a strong defender of George W. Bush and his policies", can't possibly be anything but a fair and impartial judge of how Obama practices politics because he has degrees and stuff.

It was all an attack on Obama's character. It doesn't talk about his ideas or his policies at all.

The whole thing is one big long whine about things he said he'd do things in the campaign that he didn't follow through on, and that this means he has a "casual disregard for the truth". I think it's a long walk from over-promising and under-delivering to "casual disregard for the truth". Casual disregard for the truth is calling global warming "the Gore fraud"...like Victor Hanson does in that article.

Oh, and on the promises kept vs. broken score, Obama's statistics are actually pretty good.

I don't expect everyone to agree with my politics, but for fuck's sake, when someone asks for something from "intelligent conservatives [who] actually have valid points and constructive criticism on today's issues", can you at least offer up an article that tries to provide constructive criticism on today's issues?

@ netrunner - I'm guessing gbfunk will be able to read the article and replies for him/herself without the netrunner filter. Nice try, though. Agree with him or not, Victor Hanson's credentials and authority are easily known.

>> ^gbfunk:

>> ^quantumushroom:
Obamarx is really good at describing the poop on the plate as brownies but when it's time to eat we still only have sh;t. Left-wing Statism is a failure without any obstruction from the right. The Telepromptesident claimed to want The Job, so quit whining and keep trying to fly that stone kite, Soetoro. At least until November.

I'm just curious here, but is there some place that I can go to get a legitimate conservative opinion? Is there a website out there where intelligent conservatives actually have valid points and constructive criticism on todays issues? I am honestly openly looking for that, but I don't think I've ever seen an intelligent conservative comment from anyone, anywhere (that I can remember). Surely this isn't all there is. Where do you go for your facts that have turned you so against this administration? I'm hoping that there is just some secret shining beacon of intelligent conservatism out there that puts everything into perspective and I just don't know about it yet. And please don't say it's Fox News.

I guess i'm actually assuming that your conservative based on the tone of the quote below. I suppose you could be libertarian or even an Anarchist for all I know, but the question still applies.


http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/america-101/

Article by Victor Davis Hanson

Tags for this video have been changed from 'pauline hanson one nation murdered tape' to 'pauline hanson, one nation, murdered, tape, use more commas' - edited by dystopianfuturetoday

Yes, Totally forgot to vote! I thought I had.
What a strange piece of modern culture though, I actually had never heard of er until I looked her up.

In reply to this comment by acidSpine:
All that and not a solitary vote. Nobody will get to read your description if the vid doesn't get sifted

In reply to this comment by Sagemind:
*Context Needed:

"Death" video

In November 1997 Hanson, under suggestion from Oldfield, recorded a video which was to be screened to One Nation members and supporters in the event of her assassination, following claims that she and her daughter had received anonymous death threats.[18][19] The 12-minute tape started off with the following message:
“ Fellow Australians, if you are seeing me now, it means I have been murdered. Do not let my passing distract you for even a moment ”

and then urged that

“ For the sake of our children and our children's children, you must fight on. Do not let my passing distract you for one moment. We must go forward together as Australians. Our country is at stake ”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauline_Hanson

*Context Needed:

"Death" video

In November 1997 Hanson, under suggestion from Oldfield, recorded a video which was to be screened to One Nation members and supporters in the event of her assassination, following claims that she and her daughter had received anonymous death threats.[18][19] The 12-minute tape started off with the following message:
“ Fellow Australians, if you are seeing me now, it means I have been murdered. Do not let my passing distract you for even a moment ”

and then urged that

“ For the sake of our children and our children's children, you must fight on. Do not let my passing distract you for one moment. We must go forward together as Australians. Our country is at stake ”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauline_Hanson

surprising...very surprising.
Good for hanson.

Never thought I'd be upvoting a Hanson video. That was quite good though.

Tags for this video have been changed from 'Craig Ferguson hanson wigs awesome' to 'Craig Ferguson, hanson, mmmbop, wigs, awesome' - edited by kronosposeidon

Hanson challenges their fellow Oklahomans to a musical duel:



This isn't going to be pretty.