Sorry, a dupe of mine: http://videosift.com/video/Harry-Potter-Vs-Halo
I cannot do a dupeof myself.

I guess I stand corrected, most gamers are now grumpy old men pining for the glories of yesteryear.

Fuck me, no wonder they advertize Viagra during X-Play.

I hear what you guys are saying, I just don't feel the same way. I guess part of it is that I don't really get the appeal of first person shooters anymore. I sorta liked 'em back when Doom was a hot name in gaming, and when I was young enough to think Duke Nukem 3D was groundbreaking for its mature themes. The last one I really liked was Half-Life, but that's because it heavily incorporated story elements, not because of the game mechanics (which were far from groundbreaking).

I thought Gears of War was a refreshing change of pace, and IMO presented the first real gameplay innovations we've seen in shooters since Doom. I'm glad there's been a lot of copying of their cover mechanics, since it adds real tactical considerations like cover fire and flanking to firefights. It's not enough to really make me a shooter fan again, but it's enough to keep me from being annoyed at developers for just continually putting new paint on 20-year old game mechanics.

I guess I just generally prefer action-adventure or sandbox games nowadays. Combat shouldn't be 100% of what games are about anymore as far as I'm concerned. If developers still want to make shooting the centerpiece of gameplay, then it should at least require some thought along the way, and force you to change weapons and tactics every now and then so it doesn't get stale.

Reverting back to "classic" shooter mechanics just seems like a step in the wrong direction to me.

Oh, and full disclosure, the only modern shooters I've played are Resistance, Gears, and Halo. Maybe I'm just missing out on something new and unique that everyone knows about from CoD or Battlefield, but from the sound of the reviews, I kinda doubt it.

>> ^NetRunner:

I'm starting to feel like Yahtzee is a bad reviewer of games. I haven't played Resistance 3 yet, but all I got from this was that he loves it because its mechanics are old-fashioned.
Maybe all of us gamers are starting to get a bit long in the tooth, but I've not become particularly nostalgic for "the good old days" of gaming. I mean, do most gamers spend a lot of time wishing old game mechanics would come back from the dead? I've played enough remakes of "classic" games I loved to realize that most of them don't hold up in comparison to modern games. Gaming has largely moved on.
I for one love the addition of cover and regenerating health to shooters, and don't really like the idea of going back to health pickups and strafing in and out of cover.
Oh, and maybe I just don't play a lot of shooters, but are any of the top-tier series really still all/mostly brown? The only ones I know of are Gears and Resistance...in their first iteration only. From hearing Yahtzee, you'd think this was some mistake developers are still making, but I can't recall the last game I played that didn't make use of a healthy portion of the color wheel.


I'd like to experience some of the good old days of shooters again not because games were better back then, much of the design has moved on, but now days there is just a flood of games all using the same mechanics as each other with no variety or substance.

Resistance 3 was a breath of fresh air, old school style gameplay mixed with modern mechanics. The health system, however was imbalanced. They could've done more to make it work better, but overall though, i really enjoyed Resistance dispite a few questionable design decisions. The fact that you can carry all the weapons at once nearly made me tear up.

DNF is a good example of totally cocking up the "old school" approach by implementing the WRONG modern features. Firstly the regenerating health. This right away causes a problem; you can regenerate your health, so for some challenge we need to make the enemies do a lot more damage to keep the player from abusing the system. What happens? You are almost always sitting back behind cover while waiting for your health to regen before firing again. That's not Duke Nukem! I heard other ideas were that you needed to kill an enemy to regain health, THAT is Duke.
Then there's the 2 weapon limit. George Broussard in all his game design incompetence said they couldn't find a way to implement a weapon wheel effectively on consoles... Resistance 3 seemed to do it fine. So did HL2 years back. Moron.

Regen health and 2 weapon limit can and do work for some games like Call of Duty, Halo and Gears of War, but FFS let's try something a little different once in a while. But some developers use them as a development crutch; less testing, balancing and design required. Less effort in other words. Or they use it to make the game less complex, which is a bad thing. Ninja Gaiden is a good example. It seems to be going down a path of less and less substance, there's only the combat. This is terrible. The original game's store, upgrades, potions, rewards for exploration, non-linear main world all helped to pace the game better rather than an exhausting trudge through constant unrelenting combat seen in Ninja Gaiden 2 and from the sounds, even more so for the third game.

>> ^mas8705:

almost indestructible?!
O come on, I see Warthogs blow up frequently! Hell, one time I saw someone run down a grunt with a warthog and it still exploded!


The tires, the rest of the 'hog is built by the lowest military bidder which means it'll explode if you look at it the wrong way...

Alt title: what can you do while playing halo that can be more fun than playing halo?

>> ^rottenseed:

There's something so potentially menacing about the anonymity of using text only.


Yes.. Yes there IS. U - could - B - talking - to - A - TOM TOM - girl.

>> ^JiggaJonson:

I think it'll have a hard time competing with League of LEgends.

I'm not so sure. Consider that Heroes of Newerth had to compete against a somewhat smaller LoL and the original DotA, which may as well be free given the ease of which you can acquire WC3 and play online without payin a dime. S2 seemed to do ok, although clearly their sales were drying up, given they introduced the f2p model.


Dota2 has the name and the original creator of the WC3 map behind it, thats going to be enough for a lot of Dota fans. Its also made by a very well respected developer and will be distributed over Steam. I imagine most HoN players are going to switch over since HoN is essentially a clone. Most people that played DotA don't play LoL and most who play LoL never played Dota, so I don't think there is really a direct competition there. They are just two games of the same genre...like Halo and CoD.

While LoL might be free, its still makin them money somehow. They are giving it away with the expecation that on average each player pays about what they would have charged upfront. Ok, you can spend as little or as much as you want (much being almost $500 I believe), but if you want to play the game competitively then you do actually need to pull out your wallet. I know most people don't care about that, but there is a 1million dollar tournament for Dota2...its clear they want to sell this to people who want to play it at least at a amatuerish level.

So yeah. tl;dr: It'll do fine.

>> ^Jinx:

Yup, lookin like a pub bash too me
I'm a PC elitist. If its not an FPS with a mouse i'm not interested...but I have a dirty secret. I spent a not inconsiderable amount of time watching Halo:Reach at the last MLG. So to help a gamer out I'll upvote as long as you keep my secret.


I was watching as well! Can't wait for Anaheim!

Yup, lookin like a pub bash too me

I'm a PC elitist. If its not an FPS with a mouse i'm not interested...but I have a dirty secret. I spent a not inconsiderable amount of time watching Halo:Reach at the last MLG. So to help a gamer out I'll upvote as long as you keep my secret.

um... these guys sound passionate, but i just can't see the point. Halo was great, but it doesn't need a remake, at least not in my opinion.

"achievements are long overdue" - really? I find achievements the most pointless aspect of modern gaming.

I'm sure this will sell a bundle though.

>> ^spoco2:

Fuck me, I must be getting old...
MMA?
EG?
winners bracket of MLG columbus?
Gold 3rd exansion on Iccup Testbug MMA?
WTF are you talking about?


EG is Idra's team's name, and MMA was his opponent. Testbug was the map name, and I think Iccup was the version of the map (there are custom versions of maps for many competitions).

MLG = Major League Gaming... it's a big competition featuring multiple games (Halo, Starcraft, etc). Columbus was the city in which this one was held.

"Expansion" in Starcraft is when you build a new base at another mineral/gas source for additional income, and "gold" minerals provide faster income per harvester than standard minerals.

You may already know some of that, but I figured others may be curious too.

Party rock is in the house tonight
Everybody just have a good time
And we gonna make you lose your mind
Everybody just have a good time [X2]

We just wanna see yaa!

Shake That !

In the, club party rock look up on your girl
She on my jock non stop when we in the spot
Booty move away like she on the block
What the track I gots to know
Top jeans tatto cause I'm rock and roll
Half black half white diamino
Gain the money, out the door

Yoooo!!
I'm runnin through these hoes like drano
I got that devilish flow rock and roll no halo
We party rock yea! that's the crew that I'm reppin
On the rise to the top no led in our zeppelin
Hey!!!
Party rock is in the house tonight
Everybody just have a good time
And we gonna make you lose your mind
Everybody just have a good time [X2]

We just wanna see yaa!

Everyday I'm shuffelin

Shuffelin shuffelin

Step up fast and be the first girl to make me throw this cash
We get money don't be mad now stop hatein is bad

One more shot for us
Another round
Please fill up my cup
Don't mess around
We just wanna see
You shake it now
Now you wanna be
Your naked now

Get up get down put your hands up to the sun [X3]
Put your hands up to the sun [X2]
Get up [X9]
Put your hands up to the sun
To the sun
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Everybody just have a good time
And we gonna make you lose your mind
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transcript:

Dear Benny, hi, how are ya? Love the hat by the way.

You may not have noticed but I've been absent for awhile,
I wanted to tell you why and how I've been finding my own style.
A new way of looking at the world beyond the errors of the past.
You see I've read all of your teachings and cant see how they'll last.
Where angels feared to tread has now become the beaten track
but for every step that we took forward, the church took two steps back.

It took you four hundred years just to pardon Galileo,
while the murderer of Hypatia still enjoys his saintly halo.
It was these hypocrisies of the church, that drove me from the flock
though I still clung to the ideas and kept some belief in stock
that Jesus really loved me and god was close at hand
and the day was fast approaching when we'd find the promised land.

When people could stand together and colour wouldn't mean a thing
but i slowly began to realise, thats not the message that god brings.
He constantly plays favourites setting nations against each other
tearing apart families, pitting brother against brother.
The jew and the gentile, the muslim and infidel,
the terrorist gaining heaven while their victims go to hell.

This god isn't worth my worship or the thanks that he demands,
and things have gotten so much better now the powers in our own hands.
Life expectancy has tripled, smallpox has been made extinct.
Our eyes pierced the veil of heaven and what was hazy is now distinct.
A cacophony of symphonies all composed in mathematics,
a ballet of matter and energy performing cosmic acrobatics.

Why didn't your book tell me I was born of a supernova.
Instead demanding belief in what an ancient madman told ya.
Houses can't catch leprosy, epilepsy's not possession
and when it comes to sex what the fucks with your obsession
with what grown men and women do in the privacy of their own home.
Why do you care where they put it? You've got problems of your own.

You let suffer the little children while the paedophiles protected,
the people wanted a shepard but its a wolf that was elected.
You spread disease and misery with every denial of tested science
so people remain upon their knees out of terror and compliance
so please excuse my harshness after breaking religions spell,
and if by chance your god is real, I'll save you a seat in hell.

You have been awarded 1 Power Point for fixing the embed code for Dead Pool video Kid Remakes EVERY HALO Weapon in Cardboard. Thank you for helping maintain VideoSift's reliability.

The demo was bad, not because it felt dated, but because it felt amateur. From the general combat (which there wasn't that much of in the demo tbh) to the god awful animations to the generic sound effects. The two things that really annoyed me were: The regenerating health and the only two weapons can be carried at a time fucking bullshit.

With the health, all fights become a matter off ducking behind a rock while you wait for your health to regenerate because the enemies rarely miss and shoot the shit out of you, rather than run and gun. The two weapons... well that's just fucking disgraceful. We get it, Halo did it. It worked for Halo, it REALLY does not work for Duke Nukem. It's not the return to the good ol' days that I was expecting/hoping.

HOWEVER, having said all that, it feels Duke in personality and giving you a taste of interactivity in the first level that was awesome in Duke 3d. There's a lot of cool first person moments and from the trailers there should be more cool shit to come in the full game. The demo was not a good showcase of the full game, imo. Short and very little actual action. I'm still looking forward to the full game, but I look at the demo and think the 2001 DNF trailer looked a LOT better.