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Emotional Wedding Haka

ChaosEngine says...

Ok, I was going to keep silent, because I am no way an expert on Maori culture, but this is just so full of bullshit.

1: There are obviously Maori people at that wedding... the bride for instance.
2: Women do perform haka, it's just traditionally different from mens haka, but even that is changing/
3: Pakeha can't perform Haka? Tell that to the All Blacks... just make sure your health insurance is paid up first.
4: There are no full-blood Maori's left.... oh fuck right off with that nonsense. There are no "full blood" anybody of any kind left. Doesn't make you any less Maori if that's your culture.

And Kapa Haka can be performed for all kinds of reasons. You can perform a haka to welcome someone to a marae for example.

fuzzywuzzywasabear said:

That was pathetic. Women: not Haka. White people: not Haka. (Not that there are any full-blood Maori's left, but for fuck's sake at least look like one.) Haka now seems to be some kind of novelty dance that anyone can do whenever they please. It is supposed to be terrifying; you are filling your enemies with the fear that that are about to be slaughtered and eaten. Why the fuck would anyone do it at a wedding?

Emotional Wedding Haka

fuzzywuzzywasabear says...

That was pathetic. Women: not Haka. White people: not Haka. (Not that there are any full-blood Maori's left, but for fuck's sake at least look like one.) Haka now seems to be some kind of novelty dance that anyone can do whenever they please. It is supposed to be terrifying; you are filling your enemies with the fear that that are about to be slaughtered and eaten. Why the fuck would anyone do it at a wedding?

Emotional Wedding Haka

Ashenkase says...

Your not the only one to relay these thoughts. There are members of the All Blacks that are getting tired of constantly performing the Haka during their contests. 20 times a year is wearing thin on some of them.

This Haka moved me much in the same way as witnessing the Haida perform their traditional dance at a wedding I attended a few years ago in Haida Gwaii.

Sagemind said:

I'm going be honest here.
I'm getting tired of seeing Haka all over social media.
But maybe not in the way you think.

It's a deeply emotional and personal dedication of feelings and respect. It's amazing and a great show of power which presents and reinforces the dedication a group has to another.

It's deeply spiritual and steeped in tradition.

But the way it's plastered all over Social Media, it's become a spectacle. It's become something to gawk at, and it trivializes what's really going on. It's so deeply personal. This exchange is more of an experience in it's presentation.

Of course this is just my opinion. My opinion is irrelevant in this matter, and I would never try to force my opinion on others. I'm not advocating some kind of Social Justice enforcement or cultural appropreation, or what ever the internet trend is.

FOR ME, I just feel the deep importance is stripped away as we look in. It would be fine if I saw one or two, and I experienced the power to understand it. But it seems like every time I turn on my computer, someone else has posted another one. (This one isn't new to me, I've seen it in at lease 20 other places on the web on other SM platforms. It's becoming a meme which does it some discredit.

Thanks for letting me voice my thoughts.

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Emotional Wedding Haka

Sagemind says...

I'm going be honest here.
I'm getting tired of seeing Haka all over social media.
But maybe not in the way you think.

It's a deeply emotional and personal dedication of feelings and respect. It's amazing and a great show of power which presents and reinforces the dedication a group has to another.

It's deeply spiritual and steeped in tradition.

But the way it's plastered all over Social Media, it's become a spectacle. It's become something to gawk at, and it trivializes what's really going on. It's so deeply personal. This exchange is more of an experience in it's presentation.

Of course this is just my opinion. My opinion is irrelevant in this matter, and I would never try to force my opinion on others. I'm not advocating some kind of Social Justice enforcement or cultural appropreation, or what ever the internet trend is.

FOR ME, I just feel the deep importance is stripped away as we look in. It would be fine if I saw one or two, and I experienced the power to understand it. But it seems like every time I turn on my computer, someone else has posted another one. (This one isn't new to me, I've seen it in at lease 20 other places on the web on other SM platforms. It's becoming a meme which does it some discredit.

Thanks for letting me voice my thoughts.

A Moving Student Haka,Shows Mad Respect At Teachers Funeral

Asmo says...

Hell, I thought facing down a haka from 15 year old rugby players (used to play school Rugby Union when I was in NZ for a couple of years) was powerful.

For more information/context on haka's in general, this page gives a pretty good overview.

https://mysendoff.com/2014/04/funeral-haka-a-powerful-dance-from-the-soul/

There's a video of NZ defense force personal performing a haka for troops killed in action attached for those that are interested.

A Moving Student Haka,Shows Mad Respect At Teachers Funeral

Awesome Haka Face Off by Schoolkids

ChaosEngine says...

@tomspeed, yes and no. There are certain parts of Maori culture that have definitely been adopted, various Haka, some waiata (songs), pounamu (jade) carvings

But there's still a lot of racism and resentment toward Maori as well.

If you want to see an example, here's a story on one of the largest media sites in NZ about a local Maori tribe who had the audacity to charge a fee to have a commercial event run on their property. Read the comments.

NZ passes gay marriage bill - gallery busts into Maori song

lucky760 says...

Now that didn't ruin the country, did it? Basic civil rights are inevitable (except in Muslim countries) and long overdue.

Was hoping they'd break into the haka as well.

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