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Ex-Trump Adviser Steve Bannon Arrested & Charged with Fraud

newtboy says...

Bannon pleaded guilty to fraud today in state court, finally admitted to stealing the millions that were donated for a border wall…the thing he was pardoned in federal court for by the other felon (which was also an official admission of guilt).
Shocker, another massive crime they denied and covered up but now admit.

Fun Ways To Celebrate January 6 (a satire)

newtboy says...

100% of maga supports the failed deadly violent coup attempted by thousands upon thousands of violent, many armed, terrorists for Trump or they wouldn’t be maga.

Nope, they’ll celebrate by pretending it didn’t happen, and it was thuggish BLM, and it was a totally peaceful, and it was violent ANTIFA agents pretending to be Trumpists, and it was a love fest, and it was an attack directed and instigated entirely by undercover fbi agents, and by pre-celebrating the expected pardons for the most violent cop beating armed terrorists, the only ones still in prison 4 years later (PS- accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt).

This goes for 100% of maga, because 100% now intentionally ignore that it happened and pretend that it doesn’t make them treasonous anti Americans and anti democratic foreign agents all to support the man who fomented a violent anti democratic coup against America….but it does.

Hunter Biden Pardoned

newtboy says...

Pretty hilarious that the released Gaetz report proves he did everything he accused Hunter of doing…like buying guns high on cocaine and not listing his drug use on the form, sex trafficking, constant drug use, statutory rape, and massive obstruction…(the biggest difference being there is a mountain of incontrovertible evidence proving Gaetz’s guilt and only paid criminal Russians lying about Hunter)….and the child drug pusher and child rapist was tapped by the criminal underage drug fueled orgy party for the highest law enforcement position on earth while Hunter is just a citizen with no political aspirations or designs.

Epstein’s partner in crime knew every word of the report when he was nominated to be AG, the felon wanted him BECAUSE he’s a known criminal child rapist….birds of a feather and all.

Kinda funny how they don’t care at all about his much worse proven crimes but were so hyper focused on the much lesser but same unproven accusations against Hunter for 4 full years +….almost like they don’t care about the crime one bit but just need a stick to beat you in the head with.

Democrats gave us slavery, Republicans gave us freedom.

newtboy says...

Again, you predicate your argument on the blatantly overtly racist idea that “blacks” are just all too dumb to see who uses them as props and who works and legislates for their benefit….and you are too dumb to see your own deeply rooted and flawed racism even when it’s pointed out with a spotlight.
Democrats don’t believe all the members of any “race” are genetically predisposed to be that stupid. All the members of some political/religious movements maybe.

Crime is down nearly 25% in cities under Biden. If political leadership controls crime rates, Democrats win hands down. Why do Republicans always end up raising crime rates when they’re in control, like 2020 the biggest increase in violent crime on record?
You do know the highest crime states are mostly Republican states, right? You do know that Republican counties have higher PER CAPITA crime rates than big cities, right? My guess, even knowing those facts doesn’t make you think twice about your incorrect position…because you believe admitting a mistake is a sign of weakness, which is a sign of insecurity and weakness itself. Adults can admit mistakes without guilt or shame….hiding from them is shameful.

Republicans cut federal and state public school funding, and legislated teaching to the point that all competent teachers fled red states (making your party even dumber generationally). That’s why public schools in low income/low tax revenue zones struggle, especially in red states. When 100% of funding comes from property taxes, clearly schools in low value areas will suffer, and that’s 100% Republican legislating.

Democrats get 85% because they work to fund programs that help minorities far beyond your racist trope of “government cheese” (cheese like school funding or redlining protections). Republicans would strip them of those programs, the cheese, and any civil protections…eventually even their vote because they/you say the founders only wanted white male land owners to vote, not the poor, not minorities, not women. Trump’s/MAGAs project 2025 is all about that….stripping rights away.

Once again, people can see who works for their interest and who works against it, and it’s an 85%/8% split…I say that’s because the 85%+- are intelligent and have their eyes open and 10-20% of all people are just brain dead slugs (looking directly at you)…your position is the 85% is just too dumb to know better and are easily tricked because they’re black….but you think you aren’t racist. 😂

bobknight33 said:

@newtboy Why do to continue to be a Democrat TOOL?

Democrats use Blacks just for their votes.

If Democrats gave a shit about Blacks, why haven't they improved their cites is such a way as to bring in jobs for inner city communities.

Why are inner city schools shitty compared to others. City planners can spend $ and make them excellent. But they don't care about blacks, just their vote.

Democrats get 85% just because they don't want to loose the barely tolerable government cheese. Better to have something than nothing.


And that is economic slavery.

Newt by being blinded to this reality this also makes you part of the problem. A slave holder.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

😂 You expected differently…or at least you said you did. So did he. Nice try.
It’s so hilarious how certain you always are about winning, even right after you just lost everything. Never being able to admit even to yourself that you (and therefore Trump since you are just repeating his claims) were 100% wrong leads you into some pretty hilarious positions…and him into prison!

GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS! Not one or two…every charge.
Will they replace him as the repugnant candidate before the convention in July?

You can’t point to a single order or decision that the judge didn’t bend over backwards to give Trump more leeway than any normal defendant, or a single decision that was biased and not based in the law. Trump tried repeatedly to remove him hoping for a judge cannon that would defend him, but failed because there was no evidence whatsoever of bias, not a shred. Everything Trump made up about him and his orders was proven to be false…big surprise. You still believe what he tells you, then just can’t understand why everything you believe turned to shit….hint, it’s about that fundraising email he sent you, not reality.

The only ignorami are those getting their information from Trump and his mouthpieces. The jurors, including the OAN watching right wingers, saw the evidence and were unanimous about his total guilt on every charge. They are not ignorant, they have more information than anyone and found him guilty.

That is hardly surprising, he put on no defense at all…one sycophant who said Cohen lied once and was caught lying himself…nothing contradicting the evidence.

“Dickhead”…considering the under oath descriptions of Trumps penis, all little mushroom head and no shaft, you might want to look for another insult and stop reminding us. 😂

Enjoy your felonious leader. He just lost far more support than he could afford to lose. Rational people don’t want a president who is a multiple felon and can’t even vote or leave the country, especially one as immoral as him.

LOSERS!

LOCK HIM UP
LOCK HIM UP
LOCK HIM UP
LOCK HIM UP
LOCK HIM UP
LOCK HIM UP
LOCK HIM UP

bobknight33 said:

What did one expect. Blood thirsty Trump hating Judge and jurors.

These are ignorant dickheads like you.


bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Cowardly liar Trump is complaining he couldn’t use an “advice of council” defense, hoping you and your ilk are dumb enough to not know it was 100% his choice.
He didn’t use it because 1) it removes any attorney client privilege and makes their correspondence public (outing him for a few dozen more crimes as yet uncharged) and 2) Trump would have to take the stand himself (again, opening himself up to dozens more charges as he admits serious felonies under oath, the moron).
His defense is still “it was a legal fee he paid as a legal expense” ignoring the mountains of evidence, most signed by Trump personally, much of it provided by Trump under oath that prove beyond any sliver of a shadow of doubt exactly what they did to illegally hide this campaign expense as “legal fees”, exactly why they did it, and that they (including Don) knew full well it was illegal and unethical when they were doing it and went to great lengths and expense to not be caught, but were anyway.

He had to sell his plane to pay his legal bills. 😂

Eric said on the courthouse steps…”I cannot wait for the day that we win. We will…WE’RE WHITE!” Tell me again how the Trump’s aren’t racists.

Once again, virile DonJohn couldn’t stay awake in court EVEN DURING JURY INSTRUCTIONS…arguably the most important part of the trial and his last chance to make an impression on the jury…the impression he gave, pure distain and disrespect for the law. The choice to stay up high on speed all night rage tweeting was a poor decision. I would have said he “ran out of gas” but all reports are he has a massive gas surplus and is venting excess gas constantly. 😂

He is now tweeting that he doesn’t even know what the charges against him are…after how many weeks in court having them explained and dissected? His feeble brain has failed. He’s going to die his first year in prison, he’s already in a final decline.

The defense closing was so bad that the judge had to tell the jury to disregard much of it, in parts he admitted to Trump’s guilt, and was so disjointed and weird that it was impossibly difficult to follow, that’s coming from someone who completely understood inception and Tenet on the first viewings (they weren’t complicated, they just weren’t well thought out). Surprise, he violated the law so badly that it may be enough to give the DA an appeal and bring the case again in the impossible event don is acquitted.

Outside closing arguments DonJohn admitted defeat by saying “even mother Theresa couldn’t beat these charges” because he knows he has zero chance of acquittal. He better hope a maggot lied to be on the jury, a jury deadlock is his only possible saving grace, acquittal is not possible.
If one did, they damn well better get doxed fast….and their family.

PS- He’s also saying now that he intends to deport any citizen that annoys him, stripping them of their citizenship, specifically he mentioned anyone who protests legally (unless they’re Jan 6 maga terrorists) but make no mistake he means ANYONE who doesn’t properly cow tow. Tell me again how he loves the constitution….

PS- reminder, Trump this week campaigned with two violent gang members (alleged to be Crip leaders) out on bail and under a 140 count indictment for murders, lest you convince yourself for one second that you aren’t in a violent criminal cult.
In stark contrast, Biden has never campaigned with a mass murderer or active gang leader.
PPS- Misogynist and spouse abuser and philanderer and abortion pusher Minnesota Republican US Senate maga candidate Royce White was just busted for spending donor money on an all-nude strip club, new clothes, expensive hotels, limos, and other illegal expenses…look it up. Not his first attempt either, there are over $100k in unexplained personal expenditures and cash withdrawals from his campaign contributions, many made AFTER he lost his primary. He’s more total human garbage on every level, typical criminal maga.
PPPS- Maga policies just forced a 12 year old rape victim in Louisiana to have her child, ruining both their lives before she’s out of middle school.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Violent Trumpist nutjob Pelosi attacker got 30 years…with more state sentencing to be served afterwards. He will never leave prison alive.
This is the guy you claim is Pelosi’s boyfriend for absolutely no reason besides spite and the embarrassment that he is exactly like you with balls enough to follow his convictions and not just whine like a bitch. Another lie you continue to repeat despite knowing full well it’s a lie…no issue for worthless liars like yourself.
Actually, he was also more tied to reality than you are, you are in fact more delusional and gullible than this criminally insane sucker who believed Trumps lies and acted. All those who have are in prison. You are only free because you are a sniveling coward.

Trump, as expected, is too petrified to testify. SHOCKER!!
What a cowardly loser.
He rested his case after one blatantly lying overtly hostile hyper maga witness who was in fact auditioning to be Attorney General in Trump’s Reich. No defense at all, and insulting to the jury, the court, and the idea of holding Trump to any standards at all.
He did not introduce reasonable doubt, his entire testimony was worthless twaddle, blatantly making up things he couldn’t possibly know about like the content of a private phone call he wasn’t on to protect his master.
Guilt is not questionable. His only chance is jury nullification and a hung jury…that is when they know beyond doubt that he’s guilty but vote not guilty for personal/political reasons.
Edit: DJ needed to show the strong support Daddy has in New York so posted a video of the huge crowds cheering on the motorcade….problem is it’s actually a video of Biden’s motorcade, not Trump who has no crowd cheering for him and is apoplectic about it.

HOLY FUCKING SHEEP SHIT! Trump media finally released its financial report, the first not generated by the fraudulent audit mill he tried to trick investors with…just last quarter Trump media LOST $327 MILLION with $700k in revenues. No wonder they were faking their financial reports, that’s Enron level failure. The stock should be going for 4 shares to the dollar, (Edit: actually 6.6…revenue is $3 million, give a generous 10x for $30 million value, 200million shares, that’s 6.6 shares per $1.… but Trumpists are still paying $43! You are all going to be on welfare after it tanks, I hope you mortgaged your house like so many did.
Lost $327 million in one quarter…on track to lose $1.3 BILLION this year, with basically no income, and now no cash (didn’t they only have $30l million in reserve?). D’oh!
The best part is they say in the disclosure that the success of the company is tied directly to Trump’s popularity…and it’s a totally unsuccessful shit show of fraud and massive losses. Um….😂

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Uh oh…Trump shield “judge” cannon has been caught pulling a Thomas by accepting multiple LAVISH vacations from conservative donors and not reporting it as required by law. She only finally did AFTER NPR asked her directly why she wasn’t reporting them….well beyond the 30 days she had to do so legally.
This is not only a disbarment level ethics violation, it’s also direct tax fraud since she didn’t pay taxes on the gifts either. 😂

Lock her up!
Lock her up!
Lock her up!

If she’s removed and Trump gets an actual impartial judge he’s going to the firing squad for treason! What he did is treason, he’s admitted to doing it a hundred times in public, only he can take the stand to contradict those 100+ statements of guilt, and if he takes the stand we all know he’s toast, he’s incapable of not lying, incapable of not telling on himself, incapable of any hint of self control.

Impeachment of Thomas is on hold until the criminal right protecting him from his decades long bribery scandal of selling decisions to the highest bidder and massive tax frauds is out of power and the law can be applied again. When the Democrats regain the house in November, expect his impeachment to be job #1, and maybe the other right wing lying criminal justices like Alito, Kavenaugh, and Barrett. We could have a liberal court for the first time in your lifetime (yes, I know you think it’s still a liberal court today at 6 cons - 3 liberal justices…you never could do first grade math).

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Hilarious.
I usually provide legitimate verifiable sources, which you always discount for no reason besides they aren’t MAGA, knowing full well MAGA sources don’t report things that look bad for MAGA…duh. What’s the point? You only accept made up stories that fit your ridiculous preconceptions.
Maybe learn to write and type it in google yourself you idiotic fucktard. This is reported literally everywhere news is reported, you really have to shove your head deep into your small intestine to avoid it.

Since you are either incapable or afraid to investigate yourself, here. You lazy idiot.
https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/kari-lake-arizona-defamation-lawsuit-rcna145375
https://apnews.com/article/kari-lake-stephen-richer-defamation-lawsuit-1feafd7656310f0dc1f8d91e7e376d00
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/arizona/2024/03/28/judge-kari-lake-lost-rights-to-litigate-richer-defamation-suit/73130262007/

Or just type Kari Lake into YouTube and search just the last week, it’s all about her admission.

Even Lake herself made a press release giving ridiculous nonsensical excuses for admitting her intentional malicious guilt (I won’t give the ridiculous case credibility by participating in it, so I’m just admitting my guilt and asking to be fined…WHAT!?) but admitting it none the less.

Now go ahead and discard the facts as non MAGA sources and continue to live in the dark instead of looking for yourself.

bobknight33 said:

Funny you never provide direct source only blithering commentary

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Uh-oh….Jordan and Comer and Grassley and other MAGA traitors are facing conspiracy charges for knowingly using Russian disinformation as the basis for their impeachment fraud, suborning perjury, and maybe acting as unregistered foreign agents.
They wasted tens of millions and paralyzed congress over nonsense they knew was disinformation from the start, which has been corroborated by other Republicans who were there in the room when they were told years ago that he was a Russian agent spreading Russian disinformation designed to hurt America by sewing division and distrust in the government.

It’s blatantly obvious it’s a fraudulent revenge impeachment campaign to retaliate for two proper impeachments of Trump that complicit Senators protected him from despite his undeniable guilt. Obvious to all, even MAGA.

The thing here is if they continue this sham now that their primary and only source has been indicted for lying in this case and being an unregistered Russian agent there’s no more pretending he might be “highly credible”, they will knowingly and publicly be conspiring directly with Russia in a publicly known scheme to weaken America for the benefit of our enemy, not just giving more aid and comfort but actually attacking America in their name, and will be found guilty of treason…so what’s it gonna be, fellas?

Trump brought back firing squads, right? Seems like three candidates stepped forward.

newtboy (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Yes, it was a foregone conclusion….because he was undeniably guilty.
Yes, he was guilty before the trial started, and he was legally found to be found guilty after discovery, which is after the trial started. The uncontested evidence proved his guilt beyond any doubt, reasonable, shadow, or sliver…none.
The finding of reality came last year when he couldn’t provide any evidence to contradict the fraudulent contradictory filings he had made.
This trial was only about disgorgement of the ill gotten gains he made through that fraud.
I watched much of it, it absolutely wasn’t a railroad job, his team was given more leeway than any defense team in recent history, every opportunity to put on a defense, they had none, and were clueless about court procedures which could have led to sanctions and contempt charges, and would have for any other defendant.

It was a near hit job, railroaded by his own lawyer’s complete incompetence, and that’s going to end his appeal too, she can’t appeal anything not brought up at the first trial (and SURPRISE! Ineffective council is not a cause for appeal in civil courts…D’OH!). This means Trump has nothing to appeal, and would have to put up all the $350 million in cash in what amounts to escrow before he can even file one. He doesn’t have it, so can’t even try to appeal. I won’t be surprised if he can’t come up with the $89 million to appeal the Carrol decisions. 😂

This WAS total BS, Ivanka shouldn’t have gotten the sweetheart deal of waiting to prosecute until after Trump left office and been let off, she absolutely was part of the Trump Organization Fraud for years, and benefited from the frauds personally to the tune of tens of millions. They also should all see prison, they stole over $350 million through fraud, people lost everything, people died…this gimme is total BS, we agree.

34 felony counts trial coming next month! Can’t wait! Lemme guess, you don’t think he lied about paying off a porn star he had sex with by pretending it was a business expense, and if he did who cares…right? Just because that’s a number of serious felonies, who cares? Right? 😂

bobknight33 said:

This was a forgone conclusion.
Trump was guilty before the trial started, per DA and Judge. This was not a finding of reality only to punish Trump. This trial was only decide punishment in a dollar amount.
I doubt anyone here watched the trial -- I did -- I was a railroad job. Trump will appeal and will win. This was total BS

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Still waiting. 😂 😂 😂

I expect it to be a long wait for you to grow up enough to have the spine to admit you are, again, 100% wrong, as usual.
You have a long way to go and you aren’t making any headway.

Oh fuck…day 1 of the Trump Rape trial was a shit show for Habba. She’s going to end up in prison too. The judge is already so done with her disrespect, lack of courtroom decorum, lack of legal knowledge, attempts to re-litigate issues he already ruled on, calling the judge “sir” not “your honor”, interupting, filing inappropriate motions, making motions through email, slandering and libeling the judge publicly, etc. She is SO not ready for federal court, and she’s now LEAD COUNCIL after Tacapino quit Trump last weekend.
Trump is going to be convicted on every count, and lose every civil trial worse than anyone can imagine not just because he’s guilty but also because he has no defense team, he has unintelligent cheerleaders. He would be better off with a public defender, but they won’t sleep with him. His lecherous tendencies, needing to be surrounded by attractive women at all times to feel secure, are ending him in spectacular fashion….and I am so here for it with popcorn and a big gulp!

So far, Habba has been reamed by the judge and Trump had “Tothed” hundreds of posts attacking his victim while the jury is being picked…a jury that has total anonymity to protect them from exactly the same treatment if Trump finds out who they are. The jury is going to see those when determining how much to award his rape victim, his guilt is legally pre-determined from his last trial, and it will be in their minds that they might suffer the same thing themselves so expect an astoundingly huge award, enough to ensure he never does it again because they might very well be the target next time. 😂
He is so fucked.

Bonus- Oh snap…like I said, in opening statements the prosecutor showed them the 22 times Trump attacked Carrol this morning while in the room with them, asked to think about that when determining how much money it will take to convince Trump to stop. That’s going to be one big number with a lot of zeros….7…8…could we see 9 zeros? 😂
And make no mistake, she gets ANOTHER bite of his pie because he has not stopped defaming her even as the trial progresses, and that slander and libel isn’t covered in this or the other rape trials. He’s really regretting opening his halitosis filled mouth, but still can’t stop doing it. 😂

And Trump lost again in NY Supreme Court trying to remove his gag order so he can attack court workers and threaten their safety. Denied.

bobknight33 said:

More infantile whining and lying and redirecting to continue avoiding admitting to being 100% wrong about Trump’s multiple (7 times in 4 years during his most prolific child prostitution years) documented visits Child Rape Island with Epstein and being named repeatedly in the newly released documents including the specific accusations that he raped a 13 year old girl….again.

Judge Pronounced Trump Guilty Before Trial Began!

newtboy says...

🤦‍♂️No bob, they are not. THE FACTS WERE NOT DISPUTED BY TRUMP OR THE TRUMP ORG AT ALL, not in court…he submitted most of them.
Trump disputes the facts on camera, but not in court under oath. He can’t. The documents are what they are. He was too cowardly and guilty to take the stand…his smartest move yet.
Trump valued Maralago at $18 million for taxes, not the DA. He also valued it at 100 times that value to get good loan terms that saved him hundreds of millions the banks and county were then deprived of because of his fraud. Understand? I’m sure not.
I did the math, if his stated bank values are truthful, he defrauded the government out of well over $700 million in decades of unpaid taxes for one property.

What was presented during the prosecution “side” of the “hearing” bob? Nothing…because there was no prosecution phase, it was summary judgement based on what was presented by both parties during DISCOVERY. There has only been a “damages” phase of trial since the prima facie case made at discovery necessitated a sumary judgement…not a “prosecution side”.

Bob. This is civil court, not a criminal trial. Please stop trying to explain things you are wholly ignorant about.

In your example, a criminal trial with different rules, the defense could be you didn’t see them, or they dove in front of your moving car, or you were having a medical issue….or one of a thousand mitigating factors. Trump presented no mitigating factors explaining the frauds, the differing values that changed 10000% in value on paper with his signature swearing to the truthfulness of the values he presented, values he knew were fantasy, so was found guilty.
(Side note- in your example the victim’s heirs would also get a civil trial where prima facie guilt would be established by the witnesses and your admission you hit them and you would need to have evidence supporting your affirmative defense that it was under duress to evade liability, just as they would need to prove malicious intent or recklessness to get punitive damages, IMO).

😂 “Property values can’t be fraud in any way”. 😂 hilarious since submitting fraudulent values is exactly what he was found guilty of! 😂

The banks indicated massive fraud, who told you they didn’t? Trump? The banks lost over $180 million in interest they should have received if the collateral values had been correct. Yes, they made some money, but lost out on $180 million plus.
When you get a loan based on fraud like this, even if you pay it back you still comitted a crime and any penny you made from that crime can be recovered from you, exactly what’s happening.
It’s as if Trump submitted documents “proving” his credit rating was 800 but in fact it was below 400, then saying it’s no crime because he paid his low interest credit card bills, pay no attention to the lower rates and perks he received because of his fraud, they’re nothingburgers…$180 million nothing burgers.

This is a BS showman disgraced ex president caught red handed. You know it, he knows it. No one is blinded, you are simply dishonest.

What of me statement are bullshit or not in this hearing/case?
The disclaimers don’t mean Trump can just make up the numbers, like he did. I know he claims that, he already lost that point in court. He gave fraudulent numbers, values, square footage, claimed unpermitted unbuilt rentals were filled and collecting rent, claims he didn’t add “brand value” but it’s there listed on the documents.

lol. You get your “information” from crack heads, failed comedians turned pundits, and con men like rapist Trump. I get mine directly from the courts, then verify, then look at what nonsense MAGA is saying about it, then debunk your nonsense. Stop projecting. I’m not stupid. I’m no dick. I have almost no ego. I simply hate stupid lies and the stupid lying liars who lie them stupidly and I have the testicular fortitude and perspicacity to factually contradict them with facts, figures, and references.

You don’t ever look for shit, you liar. You take what the MAGA machine hands you and you say what they said to say. You haven’t had an individual thought since you’ve been posting here, not one. Every word you post can be found in the MAGAsphere written by someone else who makes money by telling you lies to repeat.

Yes, Trump was found guilty during discovery before the courtroom trial began, which is perfectly normal and reasonable in cases where the evidence is incontrovertible like this one. That’s the United States legal system, no surprise you don’t understand it….you don’t understand thing about my country.

Now whine that he couldn’t have a jury trial just because he didn’t ask for one until after his trial had started. So unfair! 😂

bobknight33 said:

But the facts are disputed , which mitigates the ability of the judge to make such decision. This was presented during the 11 weeks of the prosecution side of this hearing.



It only work is such cases as for example 5 people see me run over and kill someone. That is not is dispute.
What is or could be to mitigate my conviction is to show just cause -- IE being robed at gunpoint or such.


This "trial" is about property value. This cant be fraud in any way. Trump places a value and banks do the same and an agreement is made. No bank or lender indicated fraud -- Every bank got paid back, with interest and some made other deals on other projects.

This is a BS show trial. prejudged before it even started.

Only the ignorant are blinded.

All you statement below are bullshit -- none of that in this hearing. Every proposal for loans clearly had disclaimers for banks to do their own due diligence in their evaluation. Some thought higher some though lower-- but all made loans and got paid back.


Sadly stupid dicks with big egos, like you push false information.

I look for actual facts like presented -- Her own words - Trump Guilty before the trial began-- Thats BS

newtboy (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Hmmmm….did you think better about this post and remove it @bobknight33? It’s disappeared. I’ll put it back here where it’s safe……


You are way beyond ignorant.

Trump was found guilty on day one because the evidence that was 100% undisputed by Trump proved his guilt absolutely, not even a requirement for guilt in civil court. Evidence, and supporting facts had absolutely been presented by both parties, litigated, and stipulated to…years and years of contradictory and fraudulent business records filed with the state under penalty of perjury….it’s what’s known as a prima facie case,
“ A prima facie case is a cause of action or defense that is sufficiently established by a party's evidence to justify a verdict in his or her favor, provided such evidence is not rebutted by the other party.”
The evidence was not rebutted, Trump blatantly minimized value beyond reason for tax purposes and inflated it beyond reason for loan purposes…both in writing with his and his children swearing to the veracity of the numbers.

There was absolutely no rebuttal to the fact that the Trump organization committed repeated and massive frauds in New York. I know Trump has gone on tv and made claims that he disputed the evidence , but the facts are he did not dispute it in court under oath, only on camera where he can lie freely.

There was a bench trial not a jury trial because Trump did not request a jury until after the penalty phase of trial had started, well beyond the legal deadline. Are you saying he should get special treatment because his chosen lawyers are incompetent? I and the courts think not! I think you would insist on the bench trial with an unfavorable judge if this were a Democrat in court…in fact I know so. 😂

😂 Yes I DO find these type of court actions OK in America, they are absolutely normal legal procedure that any competent attorney could have avoided at every turn, but Trumps are too busy giving interviews and fundraising for him to actually do the trial work, you get the lawyers you deserve, and Star fucking camera chasers are the only ones who will work for a debt welcher and insane and dangerous client like Trump.

bobknight33 said:

You way beyond blind.

Found guilty by the judge on day 1 -- no facts presented yet no jury - per judge since he decided Trump guilt on day 1. no jury trial needed per judge because no trial needed- only how guilty is Trump at hand.


And you dont find this type of court actions - ok in America?

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Yes, he had no defense. The stipulated facts proved him guilty beyond doubt. Just like Giuliani who is $150 million poorer this evening. They didn’t offer a defense and were found guilty based on what they agreed the facts were, now they whine it’s unfair they were found guilty. 😂

The second part of trials are the punishment phase. That’s the only phase that either defendant had because they had no defense to their guilt….And you think this proves some conspiracy?!. Sucker. Idiot! Braying moron! 😂 you don’t understand the world and it’s so big and scary and unfair, isn’t it baby boy? Yes Bob. After guilt is established, there’s more trial before the prosecution rests. Only absolute brain dead slugs don’t understand that, clearly you and MAGA don’t understand it.


And you are so delusional, gullible, and ignorant you think normal trial procedure proves some conspiracy. 😂 you honestly are the dumbest person I’ve ever encountered including the mentally challenged and brain damaged people I’ve known…you take the cake for dumb bob. Congrabulations!

BTW- the idiot whose video you posted clearly has no idea what communism is, he just likes saying the word. The courts making a summary judgement based on the undisputed evidence is not only not communistic, it’s perfectly normal, especially when the charges are proven so conclusively. He claimed on sworn documents his apartment was 3 times the size it was to fraudulently get better loan terms that over years saved him reportedly near $200 million in interest alone that he would have paid had he been honest about the collateral he was using. There’s no way to explain that away, nor the other few thousand examples of fudging the numbers always in his favor for fraudulent financial gains and tax evasion that they have on record with his signature attached swearing to the veracity of the values he supplied.
I know it will all go over your head, but here’s the legal explanation of what you and MAGA don’t understand about the law here….not all your fault, you are clearly ignorant of the law and Trump and team and morons like this are misleading you.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/summary_judgment

BTW- posted this for you to celebrate all the MAGgots falling like rain.

https://videosift.com/video/GWAR-Maggots-Live-From-Antarctica

bobknight33 said:

Trump found guilty even before the trial starts.




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