Yes. Fire caused that. Really. The tell-tale central kink. Then down she goes at near free-fall speed right into her footprint.

should have put a small chord on back of the camera or something that would allow the free fall but would allso stbalize the camara to some exstent so you you clearly see the decent or so it matched the decent of a human.

That would require her to only have gained momentum by swinging away from the building with the rope already taut. She's gained a ton of momentum from the free-fall which may (looks probable) be enough to bring her back past the fulcrum.

>> ^charliem:

>> ^Sagemind:
I thought she was going to swing back and hit the building...

Pendulum motion, not a chance

At 5:00 the sound changes because it starts to encounter friction from the Ionosphere or mesosphere not sure which there's no altitude indication.

The Astronaut who skydived from space talked about it. Free falling in complete silence, and then boom hitting the atmosphere.

Seems like a standard mobbing attack. You'll often see ravens and crows doing this to hawks and other birds that enter their nesting territory. The best way I would describe it is an escort flight out of the perimeter of their nesting area. Sometimes however they will gang up and kill other birds(especially owls and hawks) that are in their territory. Though it is mostly a corvid behavior you will also see sparrows and other LBB(little brown birds) do this to larger birds to try to keep them from their eggs and chicks.

The other explanation which doesn't seem to fit is a mating routine which usually involves a male and female raven or crow locking talons and free falling together quite spectacularly towards the ground only to separate at the last minute(or height) and fly to an altitude and do it again to enforce a bond before mating....

Great Video!!!

>> ^ponceleon:

Hmm I don't know enough about ravens/hooded crows to understand the motivation behind the attack? Does the crow think it is another bird, or is he just playing with it the way a cat plays with a toy mouse?

Jesus did it. That is the only logical explanation. Only someone with magical superpowers can make a building fall at free fall speed with essentially zero resistance. I am satisfied with that explanation, and I'll take it on 'faith' that my government always tells me the truth.

I would have done it if I had thought of it (as long as it wasn't his first time).

When I bungee jumped I was very quickly comforted by the pressure I felt on my legs after I jumped. I only experienced about 3 seconds of free-fall, then the pleasing sensation of being slowed down by the cord.

Yeah, the propeller seems to be on idle, so it's spinning only enough to keep the engine going.

The thing is, though, that at that angle he's basically free-falling and picking up speed the longer he stays that way. I can't tell how long he was facing straight down but to pull out of that you'll be exerting some serious strain on your wings, not to mention causing some passengers to part with their lunch

Also, every aircraft has a top speed limit, beyond which the shaking will basically tear the plane apart. They seemed confident enough about that however...

>Every piece of evidence he and his type have brought forward has been thoroughly debunked.

Really? Where is this debunking? Where's the explanation for three skyscrappers crumbling to the ground at nearly free fall speed? Why did all three building fall into their own footprints? There wasn't molten steel at ground zero? If there was, how did it burn? I don't think you need to be an "engineer" to conclude the 9/11 Commission Report does a poor job addressing these questions.

I think you're right Westy, I probably overstated what I meant. My real point is that they shouldn't overstate their evidence like this. Pointing out that no other steel structure has collapsed due to fire sounds really dramatic but there's a lot of important reasons that 911 is different. Similarly, establishing that the building fell at near free fall speed again sounds like a damning piece of evidence but there's a lot of good reasons why that would be expected. They don't have to accept the explanations against these pieces of evidence, but they're being disingenuous by not at least mentioning them. The lay person may accept these as much more powerful facts than they really are as a result and that's the bulk of my complaint.

The real reason for my comment is that I'd like to see a video like this done professionally without a lot of whiny finger pointing at the established explanation. It makes it hard to believe you're getting an unbiased account of the facts. If they started the video with a presentation of the accepted explanation in a way that demonstrated their understanding of it and from there presented evidence for a different conclusion then I'd be more likely to take it seriously. They must show that they can see the value in the standard explanation but believe the alternative better accounts for the facts; otherwise they get mired in conspiratorial thinking relying on hidden evidence which can be difficult to take seriously. As it is, I'm only left with a vague feeling that there may be things I should research on my own to make a conclusion but that I can't take anything from this video without a grain of salt.

Sorry for the rant.

^The interesting thing is, at all times during human history have we been crashing towards Andromeda. Our whole existence plays out while we are in "free fall" towards something. If we speed up to astronomical time, it will just be two luminous clouds intertwining, but during that time civilizations, species, worlds have come into existence and gone again.

The sheer scale of it all is staggering.

Hey IronDwarf
Take the time to view this "entire video"!
I am one hour into it, you want some incriminating proof - there it is...
Thanks, thatavguy.

>> ^thatavguy:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8182697765360042032#
Think this is the right movie - I watched it a long time ago - but it uses the Scientific Method - Ya know, seeing what happened, looking at possible explanations, being able to reproduce something that happened - like the destruction of the towers at free fall speed - its an interesting watch if you have a spare 2hrs.
http://www.ae911truth.org/ - 860 architectural and engineering professionals would like more information..... I think i would like some more too.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8182697765360042032#
Think this is the right movie - I watched it a long time ago - but it uses the Scientific Method - Ya know, seeing what happened, looking at possible explanations, being able to reproduce something that happened - like the destruction of the towers at free fall speed - its an interesting watch if you have a spare 2hrs.
http://www.ae911truth.org/ - 860 architectural and engineering professionals would like more information..... I think i would like some more too.

Spoco2
I'd like to hear about some of these Blatant facts that debunk the conspiracy theorists. If you could start with the free fall of the towers that'd be great, and the molten steel - that'd also be good - and the missing plane... please, I'd love to believe what you are saying, but study's i've seen using the scientific method haven't managed to debunk anything for me yet...
Oh I do remember there were some people saying there was no molten steel.....

From Wikipedia: "He died on November 23, 1998 at the age of 35 after his rope failed while performing a "controlled free-fall" jump from the Leaning Tower rock formation in Yosemite National Park. The failure was investigated by the National Park Service with assistance from Chris Harmston, Quality Assurance Manager at Black Diamond Equipment. Harmston concluded that a change in jump site angle probably caused the ropes to cross and entangle, leading to the rope cutting by melting.[2] Miles Daisher, who was with Osman when he made the jump, stated that the ropes used in his fatal jump had been exposed to inclement weather — including rain and snow — for more than a month before the fatal jump, but that the same ropes were used for several shorter jumps on the previous and same day, THIS WAS SAID TO BE HIS LAST JUMP BEFORE HE RETIRED"... Yes, yes it was.