Some of the found object art works seem a bit "I could have done that"ish, but then there's this one by Pablo Picasso:

http://www.pablopicasso.org/bull-head.jsp

I look at that perfect bicycle seat bull's head and know that it took Pablo Picasso's eye to see it.

that was cool man. that SEMA track fucking blew my mind saturday night. here is another dark one that i just found

This was my first Jackie Chan movie, too. This clip shows what I love the most about his work -- his humor and what makes him truly special, his creative use of "found objects" in his fights.

I used to hold the idea that religion is control by way of fear for a long time but I don't anymore. The thing is that, it wasn't until monotheistic religions came on the scene that the fear and guilt aspect of religion showed up. Before the monotheistic religions, most beliefs didn't even have an afterlife that anyone could obtain.

For the better part of human history, the gods were arbiters of earthly events that we found to be larger than ourselves. The ocean was seen as a god, the sky was seen as a god. It's only been in the last 1700 years that fear and guilt have been used as control mechanisms.

I know we've talked about this before but why shouldn't you judge people for the path that they're on. Surely if it were something extreme like murder or rape, you would judge them regarding that path, why should judgement be limited to only extreme examples?

I contend that if you really care about having as many true beliefs and as few false beliefs as you possibly can, you'll be weary of subjectivity and subject every bit of information that you believe to be true or that might be new to you with the rigors of extreme objective scrutiny. Why would you want to believe something that you can objectively verify that isn't true.

Here's the think about your paragraph on faith. It isn't arrogance if you are correct. Truth can be found objectively and objectively discovered truth is the only kind that matters. The first question that should come from discovering something subjectively is "how do I know that I'm not delusional?", or "How do I know that I can trust my senses?" Faith can be derived from subjective beliefs, and to me, because of that fact, I see faith as the most self-centered and egotistical thought process in existence. It favors the methods of the individual as being more potent in discovering truth than the rigors of objective verification. It makes the statement "I am important and trust worthy enough to make conclusions based on my limited perception of reality and therefore my conclusion is equally valid to contending views."

The nature of intellectual debates where two people hold two opposing ideas is that one person is correct while the other is incorrect, or they are both incorrect. Isn't it more important to present all of your ideas with other person in order to discover what is correct, or to at least discover that neither are correct?

To be honest, I find that the kind people who think that proclaiming truth is the height of arrogance, don't actually know what it means for something to be objectively true. I find that those people have a wishy-washy outlook on belief in the way that everyone beliefs are equally valid. The creedo being "I have beliefs that are good for me and you have beliefs that are good for you therefore we are equal". I find that kind of view childish in the way that it seems like it's trying to be overly equally. Some beliefs are true, some beliefs are false, and some beliefs are not true (being that they are misinformed or something similar).

If someone believes that 2+2=5, is it arrogance to tell them that they're belief is false?

In reply to this comment by enoch:
religion is control by way of fear.
they pretend to be the gatekeepers and the ONLY people with the key to get through.
this is utter bullshit (try telling a fundamentalist that though....oh wait).
to me evolution and natural selection are more in line with my understanding of a creator than say:adam and eve,gilgamesh or mithra.

my understanding of a creator and my connection to that creator also allows me..in fact compels me..to stick to my own understanding and not judge others the path they are on.(be that christian fundamentalist or atheist).
my path is my own.my understanding is my own as are my conclusions.
i have the humility to understand i do not know everything,far from it and that my existence is about my own experiences and understandings.
and to have the flexibility according to these understandings that they may..at any time..change due to my subjective reality.
so any new information i receive is added and creates a new paradigm.

as for faith.
well..i cant help you there to further your understanding.that is a personal road and any attempt i do make concerning that will only be regarded with your understanding and most likely misunderstood.
so i dont even try.
why would i? to do so would be the height of hubris and arrogance and i would become just like the preachy fundamentalist.
/shivers...no thank you.
i prefer human interaction laced with mutual respect and a full understanding that i may,possibly..be wrong.

anyways.
always great chatting with you about this subject.
it is still one of my faves.
be well brother.

The live TV footage shows "without doubt that several bombs were planted in the building"? Call me cynical or skeptical but to me they don't show anything without doubt. Lots of misinformation was all over the TV during 9/11 too, how else can you fill 24 hours of live TV without speculation and rumors. They could have found objects that they thought were bombs and brought in the bomb disposal trucks, like you see here. Or it could be exactly like this posting suggests, another conspiracy and we've all been tricked.

But I'll err on the side of healthy skepticism, as opposed to "without doubt".

^ Here's what I found:

http://www.hulu.com/watch/6117/american-dad-tearjerker#p:1,s:original_premiere_date,i:vsl_episode_53 for the legal full episode. I added a note that the whole episode can be watched online.


In reply to this comment by cheesemoo:
Here's an embed for that video. Too bad it doesn't have the snowmobile chase from the rest of the intro

I've got the full episode in .flv format, but haven't been able to figure out how to cut it without having to re-encode the video, which would pretty much kill the already bad quality.

I can give you an embed for the whole episode if you want, but that might be overkill (and it's lower quality than the clip you found).



In reply to this comment by ant:
Can't find a replacement. I found the missing intro: http://blog.urbanbohemian.com/2008/01/22/tearjerker/ but it is not embeddable. UGH!

I looked in http://www.hulu.com/search/Anerican+Dad?company=fox&type=clip but didn't see any. Maybe I overlooked it. See you if see it.

In reply to this comment by cheesemoo:
Here's an embed for that video. Too bad it doesn't have the snowmobile chase from the rest of the intro

I've got the full episode in .flv format, but haven't been able to figure out how to cut it without having to re-encode the video, which would pretty much kill the already bad quality.

I can give you an embed for the whole episode if you want, but that might be overkill (and it's lower quality than the clip you found).



In reply to this comment by ant:
Can't find a replacement. I found the missing intro: http://blog.urbanbohemian.com/2008/01/22/tearjerker/ but it is not embeddable. UGH!

Thank you. I replaced it with this with a note and credit to you.


In reply to this comment by cheesemoo:
Here's an embed for that video. Too bad it doesn't have the snowmobile chase from the rest of the intro

I've got the full episode in .flv format, but haven't been able to figure out how to cut it without having to re-encode the video, which would pretty much kill the already bad quality.

I can give you an embed for the whole episode if you want, but that might be overkill (and it's lower quality than the clip you found).



In reply to this comment by ant:
Can't find a replacement. I found the missing intro: http://blog.urbanbohemian.com/2008/01/22/tearjerker/ but it is not embeddable. UGH!

Here's an embed for that video. Too bad it doesn't have the snowmobile chase from the rest of the intro

I've got the full episode in .flv format, but haven't been able to figure out how to cut it without having to re-encode the video, which would pretty much kill the already bad quality.

I can give you an embed for the whole episode if you want, but that might be overkill (and it's lower quality than the clip you found).



In reply to this comment by ant:
Can't find a replacement. I found the missing intro: http://blog.urbanbohemian.com/2008/01/22/tearjerker/ but it is not embeddable. UGH!

"found object"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Found_object
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Found_art

Zifnab, you're referring to "performance art," a genre I don't do.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Performance_art

you know, it's custom to make fun of someone for something they do for a living here in a roast, and i have no problem poking jibs at the mediocre art dotdude produces, but in reality i think we all agree there is at least SOME infinitely small increment of merit in a select few of his works. Not so with this one. all joking aside, this piece of shit blows. i think one of the tags, "found object" is in fact exactly what it is. omfg.

Tags for this video have been changed from 'Harry Shearer, tee hee hee, potty mouth, cool, freaking, husky' to 'Harry Shearer, tee hee hee, potty mouth, cool, freaking, husky, found objects' - edited by fissionchips