There's a few things to point out here, one most fruits as we know them produce much more fruit to seed ratio than their wild relatives. So the 'natural' investment isn't like what you'd see in the grocery store. You may have known that already I just felt it necessary to point out. Also pollen is part of the fertilization phase, as a pollen producing plant can often also produce a fruit.

The rest is just speculation on my part, so take it for what its worth. Being disbursed by animals rather than say wind or just dropping to the ground has a few benefits over the former. With fleshy fruits where the animal swallows the seeds and eventually passes them, the seeds pass along with the fecal matter which I'd imagine would be a good high nitrate fertilizer, plus another seed eating animal such as a squirrel or bird would be less likely to go picking through feces for a meal. Only humans do that, what with their high priced monkey poo coffee beans (yeah I'm sure a few other animals do to). Even when the animal actually eats he seeds, in the case of squirrels, they tend to bury a lot more acorns than they actually eat, thus the seed become buried in the ground where if not found again by the squirrels it can germinate.

Animals can travel far and aren't hampered by which direction the wind happens to be blowing in, so there's always the benefit of that. Plus some of the seeds in fruits are a bit larger, which would have a harder time traveling on the wind. A larger seed generally means more nutrients for the potential plant to draw on.

Also evolution isn't always what seems the most logical, it's what develops and what works. So it not like some ancient not quite apple trees were sitting around and decided fruit was the way to go, it was a trait that developed, it worked and so now many happy animals have delicious apples to snack on. It's actually a fairly common occurrence in nature, two or more different methods for dealing with the same problem develop. Mammals have bear live young, birds have eggs, both have their draw backs both have their advantages, and both seem to work as of this point in time.

Anyways that's what I got, hope I was at least somewhat insightful.

>> ^gwiz665:
Great movie.
I like how the series shifted genres through the different editions and with the different directors.
Alien = horror
Aliens = Action
Alien3 = horror/slasher/splatter
Alien 4 = pure fecal matter.
The first two were great in their genres, and the third wasn't that bad. The latest was just poor, poor.


Alien vs. Predator = why would they make this anything short of 18a
AVPR = face hugged a child, nuff' said

Great movie.

I like how the series shifted genres through the different editions and with the different directors.
Alien = horror
Aliens = Action
Alien3 = horror/slasher/splatter
Alien 4 = pure fecal matter.

The first two were great in their genres, and the third wasn't that bad. The latest was just poor, poor.

Then ditch McAfee... it's a piece of fecal matter.

Bidouleroux - I have to say that it is indeed you that has a totally bogus argument. Electrical signals in wires and water flowing though a pipe do not operate on the same principle.

With water, like with telecom and power systems, a single infrastructure is the only practical solution. However, different water providers operating on the same grid can not work because while people may pay differing amounts for water of varying quality, when mixed in a pipe, every gets the same quality water in the end and you no longer got what you paid for. If you neighbor is poor and can only afford water with fecal matter in it, guess what, you are getting fecal matter too. If you have HDTV and your neighbor doesn't, the fact that his/her cable signal is passing along the same wire as yours doesn't not diminish the quality of either signal.

At the same time, the free-market is a fine solution when the item in question is not necessary for the basic survival of a human being! We can all survive without a telephone, internet, cable tv and even electricity. People did for thousands of years. People can not survive with access to clean drinking water. Hence, something like water, that must be of a high quality, must always be publicly owned and administered in order for the public to ensure its quality and access. It's not a monopoly if the "mono" in question is everyone.

As a teacher of economics, I find the the free-market to be the most misunderstood and widely misused idea I have ever come across. Like I said before, it is a fine solution when the item in question is not necessary for the basic survival of a human being. The result of not understanding such limits of the free-market will ultimately cause the disastrous application of it to situations like that in Bolivia and dozens of other nations. The free-market is a tool, and like any tool, it is not the best solution for every problem.

I am begging you throw a NSFW up here. Come on I am at work, and I don't think my co-workers needs to see a cow's DISTENDED ANUS VOMITING UP GREEN FECAL MATTER!

That's not a stomach/esophagus, if anything that's the colon(you can tell from the green fecal matter), but probably not human.

This is Penn's essay:

I've stopped swearing. I'm 42 years old and from the time I was 16, I talked like carnies and rockers and truckers and sailors. I tried to talk like all the cool people, using obscenity for every part of speech. It seemed like a ticket into a special group of outsiders. I never used hard obscenity on stage, but I was always trying to slip expletives onto the radio (you do know that the FCC is unconstitutional on every front, right?). But in daily existence, I talked trash.

Several months ago, I went to see Slash's Snakepit at a venue in Vegas. He played his guit-box like a ringin' a bell. I was enjoying the show. After the third selection, when it was time for Slash to welcome us, he said, "Welcome. We're really glad to be back in the USA. We were in South America and those people didn't understand us. It feels good to be home.

But, he didn't use those words. I don't have a tape, and I wasn't taking notes, but the words he said were along the lines of, "Oh # man. How you #ers doing? It is so #ing great to #ing be #ing back in this #ing coun-#ing-try. #, man, #. I mean, #. #, man, #. I mean #. Down there, well, #, they #ing don't #ing speak #ing English, man. #. #, it's so #ing great to #ing be here.

In the previous quote, "#" stands for the favorite root word of all wise-cracking, sophisticated, modern folk (it also drove my spell checker nuts). That magic word can be used for every part of speech (yes, its function can even be Conjunction Junction).

I sat in the balcony wondering if I sounded like that. I started becoming more aware of swearing. I had an epiphany -- I realized no one thought I was talking like a carney. They thought I was talking like a mall kid. Nowadays, who knows how carnies talk? It's like tattoos. They used to mean you were on the bally, in the joint, or on the sea. Now, tattoos and swearing just mean you've been to Tower Records. Even mall T-shirts proclaim the magic word.

I still use all those words, even the "C" one that still has some small amount of integrity and magic. However, I only use them for their literal meaning. If I'm talking about real sex, I don't talk baby talk. You won't catch me "making love," "doing it," or even "screwing." But I don't use obscenity as empty modifiers or even as a sexy synecdoche.

My decision to stop swearing is not a moral position. It's not to be polite. It's not to fit in. Quite the opposite. It makes me say what I mean and that's often not polite. Not swearing takes my rants off auto-pilot. Not swearing makes me think. It gives those words their original magic in their literal meanings. It makes them sexier when I'm talking about sex.

I started stopping swearing with some friends. It's difficult, but it's pretty fun. We say more of what we mean. We've started making it clear whether we're displeased with someone for their morals, their style, their hygiene, or their looks (all valid reasons). We no longer label them all with one compound body part metonym. We've become more precise. There's more information.

When someone is talking nonsense, it's bolder, more aggressive, and less acceptable to say, "No, that's not true," than to shout a friendly, ho-hum, reference to bovine fecal matter. Not swearing is not the right thing to do. It's not the classy thing to do. It makes the truth plainer and that's rarely soci ety's view of polite.

There is a downside. Last night I banged the little toe of my right foot hard on the door jam in the middle of the night. I had nothing to say.

Can't believe they sent that noob in there with those deadly sunsabidges.. Rip your ribcage open one-kick BAM! Betcha that black putrid crap is.. crap since the ostrich eat pebbles so they can digest their food- what with them not having any teeth, and then puke up them stones and what-not, hence the reminiscence of goshdarn fecal matter.

Hooey!

This is a campaign vid for Bob Casey. It effectively juxtaposes Ricky's own campaign video with videotapes speeches he's given. The cross-cutting highlights Santorum's already prominent sleaziness.
'Santorum' is defined as the frothy mix of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santorum