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Death from Above, Part 1: Flying Submission Attacks

Baqueta says...

Nice vid rembar, and good to see plenty of Genki Sudo in there. Interesting rant... uh, discussion, too. If anyone cares I'd like to chip in my 2 cents:

Enzoblue: I also think you're pretty misguided too. It *is* a shame when fights end prematurely because of a silly mistake or lucky shot/sub, but that's the nature of the sport of full contact fighting, whatever form or style it takes. The fact that it doesn't happen more serves to highlight the amount of skill the professionals have at covering themselves.

Now, when it comes to style vs. style fighting I think there's a hugely important point that hasn't really been covered so far, which is the nature of the training. To put it succintly, if you want to be a good fighter you need to spar. Freely. A lot.

Also, and to digress a bit, while ring-bound MMA is about the best anologue we have for "real fighting", it by no means provides the definitive answer about which martial art is the best. There are still rules and restrictions taken for safety's sake. Also, I imagine that while everyone wants to win, there aren't many who wish to inflict grevious permanent harm or even mortal wounds on their opponents.

No style is the best, or all of them are, depending on how you look at it and what you want to get from it. You can look at martial arts as fighting, or you can look at them as art forms. I'm reminded of a Bruce Lee quote from Enter the Dragon: "It is like a finger pointing to the moon. If you just look at the finger, you will miss all that heavenly glory." Even if you narrow your view to just fighting, the answer still isn't clear cut. Is fighting just one-on-one? Where is it happening? Are there things in the environment that are going to play a role in the outcome? Are you prepared or taken by surprise? All these things and more play a massive role.

Bruce Lee vs Chuck Norris- Way of the Dragon 1972



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