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The Bechdel Test for Women in Movies

SWBStX says...

>> ^GenjiKilpatrick:

>> ^Tymbrwulf:
Majority of the women I know would only watch movies as entertainment occasionally and don't really call themselves "movie buffs." If you think there is an untapped "movie buff" in the female world you would think the movie industry would attempt to tap into it? (Chick flicks?)


Wow.. are you trollin' Tymbie? Or just thick?
Cause if you can't find the faults in that statement. I think you should immediately take some critical thinking classes.
Have you ever wondered why most women you know don't consider themselves "movie buffs"?
Female 1: "Hey the new Comic Book/Action/Eddie Murphy Comedy movie is out."
Female 2: "Fuck yes! I've been dyin' to see gratuitous explosions/shoot-outs/prosthetic fat all year!!"
And then, like some marketing executive from the 60s, you have gall to suggest that female movie enthusiasts truly crave to be spoon fed stereotypical bastardized depictions of themselves in films.
~~ written by @<a rel="nofollow" href="http://videosift.com/member/BoneyD" title="member since July 7th, 2006" class="profilelink">BoneyD - A lot of chick flicks would fail the Bechdel Test as well, btw...
Like real world women all are desperate love-obsessed delicate lilies that: need to reunite with their sisters and babble about romanticism. Or find a rich man so they can stop whoring themselves. Or reunite with their "mature" party slut friends and babble about sex.
I bet female movie goers find those films ultra empowering! =D
And on top of all that - deep breath - "chicks flicks" don't even begin to scratch even the bottom of any list or review of the most popular movies.
So what have we learned?
- Realistically relatable females aren't depicted in mainstream media.
- The niche genre for females depicts them as clueless whiny emo kids hoping some stronger, usually male, character saves them from their shitty situation/themselves.
- You find that's perfectly normal and don't see an reason why younger females shouldn't be raised to expect the same.


I agree in a number of ways with you regarding the way women are depicted in a majority of modern movies. However, the part that I think there are two big factors here that are being overlooked by you and by women who argue for more "realistic and substantive" roles for women in movies. First and foremost in my opinion at least is the fact that making movies is all about making money (again looking to the majority here, indie films are somewhat of an exception to this but then I think you'd agree that they are also largely an exception to this Bechdel Test). Since it's about making money, the unfortunate truth is that the majority of the target market for films these days is men, and what most of them want is the same mindless, formulaic story over and over again. If making films was primarily about telling a good, detailed and deeply thought provoking story, I think things would be very different. This just doesn't sell on a large scale and you'd have one hell of a time convincing the film studios of the world to begin shooting films for the artistic appeal and forget about the financial aspect.

On a bit of a side note to your point below,

"Like real world women all are desperate love-obsessed delicate lilies that: need to reunite with their sisters and babble about romanticism. Or find a rich man so they can stop whoring themselves. Or reunite with their "mature" party slut friends and babble about sex."

I agree that this is a very unrealistic depiction of real women. I would also contend that real men don't drive cars off ramps onto moving boats, or shoot anything that moves, or smoothly sweep any attractive woman off their feet with a few suave words. That is however, the image of men in the movies and I'd wager that it's not only the male population of moviegoers that enjoys seeing men depicted that way. And that's why it continues to sell...

My advice is... stick to indies.

The Bechdel Test for Women in Movies

GenjiKilpatrick says...

>> ^Tymbrwulf:
Majority of the women I know would only watch movies as entertainment occasionally and don't really call themselves "movie buffs." If you think there is an untapped "movie buff" in the female world you would think the movie industry would attempt to tap into it? (Chick flicks?)



Wow.. are you trollin' Tymbie? Or just thick?
Cause if you can't find the faults in that statement. I think you should immediately take some critical thinking classes.

Have you ever wondered why most women you know don't consider themselves "movie buffs"?

Female 1: "Hey the new Comic Book/Action/Eddie Murphy Comedy movie is out."
Female 2: "Fuck yes! I've been dyin' to see gratuitous explosions/shoot-outs/prosthetic fat all year!!"

And then, like some marketing executive from the 60s, you have gall to suggest that female movie enthusiasts truly crave to be spoon fed stereotypical bastardized depictions of themselves in films.

~~ written by @BoneyD - A lot of chick flicks would fail the Bechdel Test as well, btw...

Like real world women all are desperate love-obsessed delicate lilies that: need to reunite with their sisters and babble about romanticism. Or find a rich man so they can stop whoring themselves. Or reunite with their "mature" party slut friends and babble about sex.

I bet female movie goers find those films ultra empowering! =D

And on top of all that - deep breath - "chicks flicks" don't even begin to scratch even the bottom of any list or review of the most popular movies.

So what have we learned?

- Realistically relatable females aren't depicted in mainstream media.

- The niche genre for females depicts them as clueless whiny emo kids hoping some stronger, usually male, character saves them from their shitty situation/themselves.

- You find that's perfectly normal and don't see an reason why younger females shouldn't be raised to expect the same.

Dave Chappelle on Man Rape.

deadgoon says...

>> ^brycewi19:

The man is a stand-up comedic genius.
And I don't throw that term around loosely.
Off the top of my head --> Bill Hicks, Andy Kaufman, Mitch Hedberg, Stephen Wright, Emo Phillips, and Dave Chappelle.


I don't know if I would throw Hedberg in with those guys. He was bombed out of his mind 99.999% of the time. I was at the State Theatre and watched that dude perform. A cup of vodka in one hand, a cup of orange juice in the other, his parents were in the audience and he kept forgetting his lines Couldn't come back on stage after someone heckled him. Funny guy but not a genius.

Dave Chappelle on Man Rape.

brycewi19 says...

The man is a stand-up comedic genius.

And I don't throw that term around loosely.

Off the top of my head --> Bill Hicks, Andy Kaufman, Mitch Hedberg, Stephen Wright, Emo Phillips, and Dave Chappelle.

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Vintage Glenn Beck: 1986

shagen454 says...

Now his whole life is one big, sick, depressing, demented gimmick and the only way out for this emo bitch is suicide. Hey Glenn I want to give you some wisdom from your idol Bill O'Reilly - "F it! DO IT LIVE!!!" The Network style. Plan it and I will throw the biggest party ever. Fine steak for everyone and I'll let the wine flow free along big bushels of green buds - all for the one and only tragic comedy conclusion unfolding upon our eager eyes.... It would be so magical and I would feel at peace since I wouldn't hear this somber little violin playing any longer.

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The Top 20 Five-Second Films

lucky760 says...

LMFAHS. A few of them made me really laugh, which was a nice treat.

The Emo Cowboy was pretty well conceived. What a funny notion, that a cowboy in a duel would shoot himself.

Rebecca Watson has a short lingual frenum

Frynge says...

why have I never gotten to have a girl this...rational, yet cute, somewhere in my life? oh woe is me, emo emo, send in the waa-mbulance. but seriously. this lady just kicks some ass.

Green Day - American Idiot

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Guide to Asian Emoticons

westy says...

this girl manages to be incredibly annoying and strangely attractive.

She is like an amalgimatoin of what i hate but some how manges to be atractive.

1) Hate people that are ridiculously into Japanese pop culture seemingly dis proportionality to other things
2) don't like large breasts on women
3) I hate women that do stupid faces that they believe to be cute but really just make them look idiotic.
4) don't like emo/goth girls ( I like Goth stuff I just find often the people that strongly identify themselves with one group and go full out on a look and only stick to that one look can be quit boring and insecure ,the same as people that only where designer clothes.)

How to make a grilled cheese sandwich with and iron.

choggie says...

^naw farhad, emaciated emo-lookin' kids who are not hip don't have dealers. This guy abuses Dextro ans Salvia.
Favorite movie, Benny and Joon
Major: Undecided

and Throbbin, let's hope he's not using that cheap-ass petroleum-based goop for wankloob...Ewww!



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