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eric3579 (Member Profile)

radx says...

Wired piece on Snowden, page 5:

By the time he went to work for Booz Allen in the spring of 2013, Snowden was thoroughly disillusioned, yet he had not lost his capacity for shock. One day an intelligence officer told him that TAO—a division of NSA hackers—had attempted in 2012 to remotely install an exploit in one of the core routers at a major Internet service provider in Syria, which was in the midst of a prolonged civil war. This would have given the NSA access to email and other Internet traffic from much of the country. But something went wrong, and the router was bricked instead—rendered totally inoperable. The failure of this router caused Syria to suddenly lose all connection to the Internet—although the public didn't know that the US government was responsible.

So it wasn't the Assad regime after all. Who'd have thought...

"Dear Mom and Dad." About demented US gun culture.

JustSaying says...

Obesity kills more US citizens than terrorism.

Alcohol kills more people than pot.

Religious extremism kills more americans than Edward Snowden.

Choking on food kills more humans than serial killers.

Car crashes kill more children than pedophiles.

What's your point here?

bobknight33 said:

Boo hoo hoo.

98+% of gun violence is from illegal gun use.

Abortion kills more children then every statistic listed if this filth film.

Abortion kills more children than ALL murders in the USA.

Guns are not the problem. Morality is.

eric3579 (Member Profile)

radx says...

Spiegel: Inside Snowden's Germany File -- they also doubled down and published 53 original documents.

It includes some genuinely juicy bits, from a German perspective, about the actual level of cooperation our officials lied about every bloody time they opened their mouths. Good shit.

radx said:

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/06/17/germany-nsas-largest-listening-post-europe/

If they had any sense of humor at all, they'd be playing The Police's "Every Breath You Take" at the Dagger Complex, 24/7.

Edward Snowden NBC News Full Interview

NBC Censors Snowden's Critical 9/11 Comments from Interview

Edward Snowden NBC News Full Interview

Yogi says...

It only seems amateurish because it's not supposed to be taken seriously. This "exclusive" isn't a big deal since you can go anywhere and find much more in depth interviews, or simply the product of his leaks which is what's really important. I don't really care what Snowden has to say, but NBC news does because that's what they're trying to do.

If you make it about the person, it's easy to turn around, it's easy to dismiss this one guy. If he ever slips up, looks stupid or something whatever he did and the people that support what he did can be ignored easily.

So this is all about a distraction. Act like this "exclusive" is a big fat hairy deal, and only bring up useless everything, nothing of value or substance really.

Let's look at the News websites right now. CNN first.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/28/us/edward-snowden-interview/index.html?iref=allsearch

This about how he sees himself, so it's about ego, do you see yourself as a patriot. The title is immediately meant to draw a line, who agrees who doesn't, read the article with your feelings. Next NBC themselves.

http://www.nbcnews.com/feature/edward-snowden-interview/nsa-officials-snowden-emailed-question-not-concern-n118011

First NSA disputing his claims, people calling him naive and basically presenting no evidence just like the NSA hasn't. Then Kerry and some other guy saying he doesn't have to stay in Russia, that it's not the US's fault for him being there. Completely absurd bullshit, and no one would be allowed to take Snowdens side in these talkbacks. It's useless. On to Fox News

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/29/kerry-tells-snowden-to-man-up-and-come-home/

Focussing on Kerry acting like a tough idiot.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/05/29/glenn-greenwald-new-book-no-place-to-hide-tells-how-nsa-spies-on-us/

And a surprisingly decent opinion piece on Glenn Greenwald from Judge Napolitano.

Ralgha said:

Why can't modern journalists do a half decent job of coming up with good interview questions and asking them properly? This interview was remarkably amateurish and incoherent.

Edward Snowden NBC News Full Interview

Yogi says...

Let's not forget the fact that Hawaii was a colony, not exactly our mainland but taken by us. And that we were threatening Japan daily with talk of how our planes would burn down the wooden villages of the Japanese easily.

Does that justify a strike before an attack, a preventative response? No not in my view. It does in Bush and Cheneys view, they would think that Pearl Harbor committed by the US would be great.

Edward Snowden did something I am grateful for, I hope one day he can come back to the US. In fact I say the next Democratic candidate we require them to sign a promise that they'll give Edward Snowden a full Presidential Pardon.

Xaielao said:

"... disingenuous for our government to exploit the national trauma that we all suffered together and worked so hard to come through, to justify programs that have never been shown to keep us safe, but cost us liberties and freedoms that we don't need to give up and our constitution says we should never give up."

It's funny that Williams brings up pearl harbor. We over-reacted to that too by forcefully imprisoning tens of thousands of US citizens because of their race alone. Something they've worked hard over the last 60 years to remove from public consciousness.

The idea that they give a fuck about you or your constitutional rights has been proven false repeatedly if they have an inkling of an opinion that you or someone 3 steps removed from you has done something they don't like, illegal or not.

Trancecoach (Member Profile)

Munk Debate on State Surveillance

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lurgee (Member Profile)

Edward Snowden: Here's how we take back the Internet

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TDS: Jon Stewart Skewers Obama's NSA Speech

Seekers of Truth, Speakers of Truth. Kill This Way of Life!

Yogi says...

To put Edward Snowden and CHELSEA Manning on the same list as Ted Nugent, Ted Cruz, Jesse Ventura, Ayn Rand, Ron and Rand Paul, Alex Jones, and Wesley Clark is the biggest fucking joke I can imagine.

Those two are to be respected for their service to the American People and the Constitution. Those morons on that list don't belong in the same universe as Edward and Chelsea.

Downvoted before I even watched it because of your retarded list.

radx (Member Profile)



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