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Cuffed Without Cause
newtboyIn a perfect world, yes, but in reality, no.
Police do not have to tell the truth, and if a lie gets them the upper hand, they'll often lie. Asking them to explain your rights, especially after annoying them by being obstinate and repeating to them that you know your rights, is just dumb imo. They have no obligation to teach you or to be honest about them and every incentive not to.....although it would be nice if they did.
Edit: asking for a lengthy explanation after being told 'any answer besides"yes" is considered refusal' is a point where you will be penalized for asking what your rights are....white, black, or purple.
Explain how it's ok to administer a test at any time but this time is harassment because he failed them, please, because that's contradictory.
He parked on the freeway causing suspicion,
admitted to drinking and driving requiring a field test,
didn't follow directions so failed the field test,
then obstinately repeated that with the breathalyzer by not answering yes and taking it. (After being told anything but yes legally means no).
Please, what's harassment there?....because there's definitely something more imo.
Remove race from the equation, and it's a good arrest. Adding race in does nothing to negate that imo.
Edit: I was a white punk with a long Mohawk. I got harassed far worse than this repeatedly, including being thrown to the ground at gunpoint because an officer read my plate wrong and accused me of being a car thief. Attitude usually has far more to do with the outcome than anything else in my experience. When I was polite and followed instructions I almost always walked, even when in the wrong. When I argued, I got slapped hard, like a vandalism charge for a 4" chalk line on a sidewalk or 2 hours of having my car searched in front of my friends house.
If I'm misunderstanding and you aren't claiming this was a dwb arrest, apologies. That's the part I'm debating, because it seems wrong.
Sorry @newtboy, but at no point in any interaction with law enforcement should you ever be penalised for asking what your rights are in a given situation. It should automatically “pause” any other question until that is answered.
Now, I have no problem with a police officer stopping anyone and administering a sobriety test at any time, but this is clearly harassment and nothing more.
Cuffed Without Cause
00Scud00 says...At no point during his recollection of events did he say that he refused a breathalyzer test, nor was one offered. And it sounds like he more or less did the standard field sobriety test. And if he had failed the SFST or refused the breathalyzer I'm pretty sure that would have come up in court. Sorry, but this sounds like a cut and dry case of DWB to me.
Jesus fucking Christ....What bullshit.
He failed the field test after illegally parking on the freeway with dealer plates and admitting to drinking and driving, argued and stalled rather than complied, and then played games with the field test, failing it, and didn't submit to the breathalyzer as required by law (you can't delay the test by arguing about your rights as he did, by law, they clearly warned him so). That's automatic conviction in most places....white or black.
Totally cuffed for cause, then eventually had the charges dropped because they "lost" the footage, but by his own words he's guilty of the charge of refusing the test.
Every bad experience had by a person of color is not institutional racism, especially when they're actually breaking the law and being belligerent....which he was by parking on the shoulder and arguing instead of complying with lawful commands. Had they not "lost" the video, he should have been convicted and had his licence revoked....white or black.
Thanks @C-note, you've single handedly turned me from someone who exposed racism to someone who now actively debunks it. Congratulations.
All Time 10s: Common Science Myths
juliovega914 says...>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
The glass myth is actually incorrect. I used to have this misconception, but glass is quite sturdy, with viscosity greater that many metals that are considered solids (depending on the glass of course).
Came here to yell about this
All Time 10s: Common Science Myths
Raveni says...>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
The glass myth is actually incorrect. I used to have this misconception, but glass is quite sturdy, with viscosity greater that many metals that are considered solids (depending on the glass of course).
Tl;dr: "If the windows found in early Colonial American homes were thicker at the bottom than the top because of "flow" then the glass found in Egyptian Tombs should be a puddle."
All Time 10s: Common Science Myths
GeeSussFreeKThe glass myth is actually incorrect. I used to have this misconception, but glass is quite sturdy, with viscosity greater that many metals that are considered solids (depending on the glass of course).
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Cop vs Cop
bamdrewroutine DWB stop in the south...
The plain clothed cop knows exactly why he was pulled over, and after the made-up moving violations are read to him he decides (poorly?) to take a stand.
Cop vs Cop
T-manI remember this. This guy was pull over for DWB (driving while black). The stop was later deemed illegal.
http://www.courttv.com/archive/trials/campbell/