Rewatch the video, when it starts the light is green.

-The time on the video is 1 second in when the light turns yellow
-His speed at that time is 54km/h, default speed limit in Canada in urban centers is 50km/h but plenty of stretches are 60km/h, decent odds his 5k under versus over.
-The time on the video when his front wheel hits the stop line is 3 seconds.


From that we can say the time from the light turning yellow, to him reaching the point he needed to stop was 2 seconds. At 50km/h, lets work out the distance. 50 km/h works out to 13.9m/s, so the moment the light went yellow he was maybe 28metres from the stop line.

Australian government says that dry road stopping distance for a family car at 50km is 35m. Now, sometimes a bike can perform better braking, sometimes it can perform worse, but it doesn't seem that it's obvious a biker should be able to stop in 28m the instant a light goes yellow, seems that passing through is not only prudent, but quite likely the only option that physics allows.

https://www.qld.gov.au/transport/safety/road-safety/driving-safely/stopping-distances/graph

I use that logic of waiting every time I drive! Sure, I could dart across 2 lanes to make my turn in between the oncoming traffic...or I could take notice that if I wait LITERALLY 10 seconds, it will be completely clear. It's not that difficult to drive safe.

None of that negates what I said about driving safely.

In a legal and technical sense, the car that pulled into the carpool lane is indeed in the wrong.

That doesn't mean Mr. Motorcycle here was driving safely.

See this *related video. Notice the difference in how each driver operated their motorcycle.

@MilkmanDan I remain unconvinced that it's even 0.00001% anyone's fault but the tailgater. If they smashed into someone after driving unsafely, that's still their fault. I don't know about brake check laws, but i was under the impression that you are allowed to brake if you think there is a need to, and who can say why they felt the need to? Anything can happen - are we assuming here? Perhaps we should not assume things when driving except that people will behave within the law. Any assumption beyond that means you're not driving safely (in my opinion).

@SDGundamX I think it's tragic and dangerous that you have to take into consideration being shot at when you make driving decisions. Does that now mean we have to drive dangerously at certain times in order to avoid being shot?

Well said. Drive like an idiot and you increase your chances of dying like one.

I had a near death crash due to oil on the road. Something that's not your fault - now that'll make you respect driving. Knowing that even if you drive safely, you can still die.

one benefit of a fully computer controlled traffic system is that when the computer knows exactly where all the cars are at, it becomes safer to go MUCH faster

only reason we have speed limits is because you simply can't trust a human to drive safely and react in time to someone else's stupid decision.

not only do we not have to worry about reckless drivers, we can get to places much faster...which is ironic because most reckless drivers are trying to get to their destination faster than everyone else. it's because of their arrogance that we have to slow down so we don't kill each other.

: O Scary as hell, but also awesome! Some of these crashes are amazing - Hollywood has a lot to learn about how to make a great crash / close call.

Drive Safe!

Bikie could have had a cramp....or a heart attack, or a stroke, or a momentary vision issue....youve no idea why he stopped, the point is, it does not matter one iota.

They were going SO slowly to begin with, the only reason the cop could have hit him is if he was RIGHT up his ass, or paying NO attention to the road...both instances makes him an asshole up front, let alone negligent in his duties to drive safely.

I don't post stuff like this basically ever. I dislike videos that glorify violence or the suffering of others. I think the contents of the video are, well, horrifying. It is a real tragedy. If the community deems this not to be appropriate on the sift, so be it. For me, this is the most effective PSA for driving safely/responsibly I've ever seen.

Please drive safely and please buckle up.

I was almost in an accident like this once. My girlfriend and I were driving through California near Modesto on a two-lane, 50 mph back-road in the dark. Our right front tire went over the line into what looked like more pavement but was actually soft, dry, desert dirt. We just barely kissed the line but it was enough to send us off the road towards a tree, my girlfriend over-corrected and brought us back on the road and into the oncoming lane. We passed through the space between two cars, went off the other side of the road, over-corrected again (because we were really just fishtailing at that point), drove back through oncoming traffic, sideways, and stopped in our original lane facing the wrong way.

I always think of that when I see car accident videos. That and the fact that we were driving an early Hyundai Accent, the kind that would've vaporized had we actually hit anything. For a few seconds there, floating in the space between two cars, my whole existence was entirely dependent on luck, or fate if you wish. It felt very weird, and a damn-sight unfair.

It's really easy to say that this guy was driving irresponsibly, or to say that one needs to respect semis, but it looks like he was going with the flow of traffic, maybe just a little faster. Those moments like this happen before you even know what's going on. Your tire brushing that little pile of melting snow can start a series of events that you have no control over. And driving slower than the rest of traffic can be just as dangerous, especially in the snow.

But I'm not trying to be preachy. The thing that really amazes me is that when people see these videos, we always tend to think of ourselves as being in the place of the driver who fucked-up. We could just as easily, however, be the other guy. Happens every day, all over the world. You're driving safely in your own lane, minding your own business, and all-of-a-sudden you're pink pate' getting spread nicely over a crispy metal cracker. Nothing you could've done. Driving is dangerous.

>> ^Gallowflak:

>> ^VoodooV:
>> ^Gallowflak:
And everyone becomes a paranoid, desperate loser in a desperately miserable society.

paranoid about what exactly?
If you're paranoid that you're going to hit someone with your car and get caught. Well I'm just going to say, "good"
Don't drive like you're the only one on the road and you'll be fine. It's really not that difficult to drive safely, nor do you really get to your destination significantly quicker if you drive recklessly.

Paranoid simply because you know you're being observed and recorded, and that even the most minor transgression or accident could be easily punishable. Paranoid because every vehicle on the road has a camera pointed at you. Paranoid because living in a surveillance state is an awful thing, made even seedier when it's other citizens doing the surveilling.
The "if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about" argument always makes my goddamn skin crawl.
I'm going to assume the rest of your comment was a general statement, rather than directed at me.


I understand where you're coming from and I respect it. But when you think about the world we live in now. The right to privacy has become kinda obsolete, IMO. When you think about it, you're watched/monitored and recorded in so many places in modern society that are all commonly accepted that the idea of privacy on a public road is silly.

You're watched and monitored by your friends..your family, your co-workers, your boss every day, every minute of your life. Every purchase you make with a debit/credit card is recorded which ultimately tracks your movements throughout the day

So from that perspective, the idea of being monitored on a publicly used road...for the sake of safety, for the sake of catching the lowlifes that hit and run....is an easy choice to make, IMO

The warning about trading freedom for security is not lost upon me. But I don't think we're really trading freedom, nor does it increase security. It merely adds accountability to ones actions. It's a public road we're talking about here and if there is a law on the books that you break on that public road and it's caught on camera...then you should pay the price. The right to privacy simply doesn't exist on a public road.

I'm also looking at this from the following viewpoint: How many worthless laws are out there on the books, that sound good on paper, but in reality, are worthless because it's impossible to enforce them. What if it was possible to enforce these laws BECAUSE of cameras everywhere?

In addition...why is it OK to police the police by filming them with our smartphones to ensure that they are doing their job properly, but it's not ok to film a reckless driver, endangering innocent lives out of this mis-placed desire of privacy?

>> ^VoodooV:

>> ^Gallowflak:
And everyone becomes a paranoid, desperate loser in a desperately miserable society.

paranoid about what exactly?
If you're paranoid that you're going to hit someone with your car and get caught. Well I'm just going to say, "good"
Don't drive like you're the only one on the road and you'll be fine. It's really not that difficult to drive safely, nor do you really get to your destination significantly quicker if you drive recklessly.


Paranoid simply because you know you're being observed and recorded, and that even the most minor transgression or accident could be easily punishable. Paranoid because every vehicle on the road has a camera pointed at you. Paranoid because living in a surveillance state is an awful thing, made even seedier when it's other citizens doing the surveilling.

The "if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about" argument always makes my goddamn skin crawl.

I'm going to assume the rest of your comment was a general statement, rather than directed at me.

>> ^Gallowflak:

And everyone becomes a paranoid, desperate loser in a desperately miserable society.


paranoid about what exactly?

If you're paranoid that you're going to hit someone with your car and get caught. Well I'm just going to say, "good"

Don't drive like you're the only one on the road and you'll be fine. It's really not that difficult to drive safely, nor do you really get to your destination significantly quicker if you drive recklessly.

Maybe I failed to mention that the truck was at no time a threat to anybody's life, considering I was on the sidewalk and it was driving safely on the street, but the level of excitement should be on par with this whale-miss here.

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

Of course not, self linking is not allowed on this site. Send me the link and I'll post it for you.>> ^MonkeySpank:
I've had a bigger truck, drive 40mph within 12 feet of me while I was on the sidewalk, but you don't see me posting that video now, do you?
>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:
Oh come on you jaded internet curmudgeons. That's a fuck of a lot closer than I'd care to be to a whale's gaping maw.

Rules for the Zombie Apocalypse.

1 - You are not safe. EVER.

2- Cardio- Be able to run for an extended period of time
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3- Always carry a minimum of 2 reliable, lethal weapons (I can not stress "ALWAYS" enough)

4- Better safe than stupid (example- use your head; cut off theirs!)

5- Know where you will be sleeping before the sun sets. Be prepared to move out before daybreak.

6- Travel light- No dead weight (this goes for both objects you carry and people you're with. If someone can't pull their own, ditch them)

7- Save one bullet (do I need to elaborate?)

8- Dress smart (Tight-fitting, comfortable clothing, with large, accessible pockets, and preferably velcro-sneakers)

9- Do(n't) be a hero

10- Only pull the trigger if you're ok with every ghoul within hearing-distance knowing exactly where dinner is.

11- Stay nourished and healthy (if you're living off canned food, make sure to take multi-vitamins! And remember, if you get sick, there's no hospital to treat you)(and remember, always use a condom! You really don't want herpes during a zombie apocalypse)

12- Drive safe! (And by that of course I mean drive in a hummer or a large SUV with bars welded to all the windows, and if possible an escape hatch in the roof) Also remember the larger the vehicle the more gas it uses. Try to balance, Protection, range and reliability.

13- If you can avoid it, then do.

14- Never, ever, ever, under any circumstances shall you EVER go anywhere alone (yes, this includes the bathroom)(void if everyone you've ever known/loved is a zombie)

15- Enjoy the little things.

16- Your mind is your most powerful weapon. Think, preferably outside the box (ex- need meds but the hospitals are all filled with Zack? Go to the vet/a pet store!)

17- Leave no doubt- know your way out!

18- Know your environment, use it to your advantage.

19- Tread carefully (watch where you're going and NEVER walk backwards)

20- never give up

21- Calculus (Example- it takes you .75 seconds to hit a zombie in the head with a baseball bat and then prepare to strike again. If a zombie is withing 3 feet of you you can't wind up for a successful kiss-swing. It takes a zombie 3 seconds to walk 2 feet. The situation: you have 5 zombies walking towards you. Before you even prepare your first strike, look at the distance between each of them and determine if it will be possible for one of them to get within 3 feet of you while you dispatch the others. Plan out your kill order and know when you're going to need to back up (but remember rule 19!))

22- Double tap

23. Think outside the box. Example; fleeing survivors have raided the drug stores, hospitals, and doctor's offices and left you behind with no medicine. Solution, go to the pet store. A big chain pet store has everything from vitamins to sedatives (be VERY careful converting dosages).


I know there are more I'm just currently to lazy to find them.