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Cellphone Video Show Officers Shoot and Kill Suspect

chicchorea says...

lucky760's reasoning is sound.

Anyone that has researched and/or trained on weapon on weapon defense, in this case knife vs. firearm knows the Tueller's Drill. It has been a standard for over thirty years. Basically,

The Tueller Drill is a self-defense training exercise to prepare against a short-range knife attack when armed only with a holstered handgun.
Sergeant Dennis Tueller, of the Salt Lake City, Utah Police Department wondered how quickly an attacker with a knife could cover 21 feet (6.4 m), so he timed volunteers as they raced to stab the target. He determined that it could be done in 1.5 seconds. These results were first published as an article in SWAT magazine in 1983 and in a police training video by the same title, "How Close is Too Close?"[1]
A defender with a gun has a dilemma. If he shoots too early, he risks being charged with murder. If he waits until the attacker is definitely within striking range so there is no question about motives, he risks injury and even death. The Tueller experiments quantified a "danger zone" where an attacker presented a clear threat.[2]
The Tueller Drill combines both parts of the original time trials by Tueller. There are several ways it can be conducted:[3]
The "attacker and shooter are positioned back-to-back. At the signal, the attacker sprints away from the shooter, and the shooter unholsters his gun and shoots at the target 21 feet (6.4 m) in front of him. The attacker stops as soon as the shot is fired. The shooter is successful only if his shot is good and if the runner did not cover 21 feet (6.4 m).
A more stressful arrangement is to have the attacker begin 21 feet (6.4 m) behind the shooter and run towards the shooter. The shooter is successful only if he was able take a good shot before he is tapped on the back by the attacker.
If the shooter is armed with only a training replica gun, a full-contact drill may be done with the attacker running towards the shooter. In this variation, the shooter should practice side-stepping the attacker while he is drawing the gun.
Mythbusters covered the drill in the 2012 episode "Duel Dilemmas". At 20 feet the gun wielder was able to shoot the charging knife attacker just as he reached the shooter. At shorter distances the knife wielder was always able to stab prior to being shot. (Wikipedia)

That a firearm, particularly a handgun, will instantly incapacitate an individual is not a working concept and is fallacious. Variables such as adrenaline and drugs are attributable. Shot placement is trumps. Anything but a CNS. central nervous system, shot is not efficacious in safely stopping the threat. Not an easy or sure target sans movement, stress, etc.

Law enforcement put their lives and safety in harm's way every day. They are not there to die needlessly. An individual with suicide by cop or a LEO's death in mind is a serious threat to be dealt with with prejudice.

By the way, research knife wounds vs. handgun wounds. There is much data, ER, medical examiner, law enforcement. The deadly seriousness of knife wounds are well documented.

Tasers...I would not want to risk my life behind one or anyone about whom I care.

Denny - Concept Uban Utility Bike

Denny - Concept Uban Utility Bike

Questions for Statists

st0nedeye says...

Isn't there some sort of right-wing video site that you can post your nonsense to where the audience will appreciate it, form in a circle, and jerk each other off?

This new-age libertarian crap is about as stupid of an idea as I've ever come across. It's nothing more than hippie-esque "Give peace a chance" horseshit, without the excuse of being a drug burnout.

It really doesn't take much to recognize some commonalities in "government-less" places: Tribalism, Warlordism, Violence, and Death.

Wanna fuck with a libertarian?

1) Ask them if they owe society for anything.
2) Watch the instantaneous "no" fly from their lips.
3) Point out that thousands, maybe millions, of people have sacrificed themselves to their benefit.
4) Sit back and watch the squirm.

This reminded of the a scene in Always Sunny. S02E03, first 60 seconds. Dee and Dennis are the Libertarians.

World's First Kim Jong-un Impersonator

chingalera says...

He's entitled to those balls I mean...just look at him. I wouldn't fuck with him! He's more handsome than Kim is the real problem! He should tag along with Dennis Rodman the next time he visits...stir some shit up....flirt with Kim's ol'lady!

ugh said:

Personally, I would worry at least a tiny bit that the wrong someone would actually think I was the real thing and try to kill me. Balls of steel this guy has.

Drunk Mayor Ford's Extremely Inebriated Secret Violent Rant

Krupo says...

The description was getting awfully long - but here's the additional context, worth reading this:

"Moments after the Star published the video online, Ford emerged from his office and apologized.

"The Toronto Star just released a video that I was very, very inebriated."

"All I can say is, again, I've made mistakes. I just wanted to come out and tell you I saw a video. It's extremely embarrassing. The whole world's going to see it. You know what? I don't have a problem with that."

"I hope none of you have ever or will ever be in that state. Obviously, I was extremely, extremely inebriated."

The target of the mayor's anger in the video is not in the room and is not known to the Star.

"I'll rip his f--king throat out. I'll poke his eyes out . . . . I'll make sure that motherf--ker's dead," Ford says, then hitches up his pant legs as if bracing for action.

His ire appears to be directed at someone who has called him, and brothers Doug and Randy, "liars, thieves."

The Star purchased the video from a source who filmed it from someone else's computer. The person with the computer was there in the room, the Star was told.

Wednesday, Ford's chief of staff Earl Provost said he could not speak to the Star about the video. "I am sorry I cannot talk to you about this," Provost said.

Also on Wednesday, the Star sent a transcript of the video, a description of the video's contents and an offer to show it to the following people in the mayor's circle: Ford, his brother Councillor Doug Ford, Provost, deputy chief of staff Sunny Petrujkic, spokesman Amin Massoudi, and to Ford's lawyer Dennis Morris.

The Star invited all of them to view the video, either at their office or the Star's office, and provide an explanation for Ford's behaviour. None of them took the Star up on its offer as of Thursday.

Last week, Police Chief Bill Blair announced that investigators recovered two video clips relevant to extortion charges laid against the mayor's "close friend" Alexander "Sandro" Lisi. One of those videos is of the mayor smoking what appears to be crack, which two Star reporters viewed in May.

There is no suggestion that this video is the second video Blair referred to in his press conference."

Dennis Leary - "I'm an Asshole" (Possibly NSFW)

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Great Moments in Irish History with Dennis Leary

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MERRY FU@%ING CHRISTMAS-a children song (DENNIS LEARY)

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the ref-mary..gag your grandmother (spoilers)

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The Gospel According To Rock Music - (no, seriously)

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Busket!

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Bitchy Resting Face

Bitchy Resting Face

William Tell Overture - Rossini



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