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harlequinn says...

Just about any competition shooter can keep up 0.3 splits for 10 minutes. Go to a three-gun competition near you and ask someone to show you.

Aiming is relative to what you want to achieve. From "spray and pray" to taking many minutes per shot in Palma and F-class. You might take 10-12 shots per minute with a semi-auto at this distance. Others will aim and shoot at 5 to 10 times that rate.

"Shooting with your finger at maximum speed is always far less accurate and slower than full auto with the same gun. You have to prove it to me that I'm wrong, because that's simple logic."

No. That's not how it works. I don't have to prove anything to you (as much as you have to prove anything to me). How about this though - first go read "On Killing" by Dave Grossman, which covers this topic, then go search on Youtube for the many videos (I checked just now and there are plenty) showing how full auto hits much less, (and the shots where you do hit are mainly sub-optimal) compared to aimed fast shots in semi-auto, then go join a gun club and try some competitive shooting. I'd be surprised if at the end of that you still imagine full-auto is what you think it is.

Also fun to watch are videos of guys like Jerry Miculek who can fire in semi-auto at insane rates of fire.

Now, lets be clear, I'm not saying full-auto doesn't have its uses, because it does. I'm taking umbrage with your claim that you have more control in full-auto (you do not) and that you get more hits on target with full auto across a series of targets (you do not).

newtboy said:

I don't believe for one second that you could keep up that rate for a full minute, much less over 10. If you take the time it takes to aim a 300 yard shot accurately, you're talking 10-12 shots per minute.
Shooting with your finger at maximum speed is always far less accurate and slower than full auto with the same gun. You have to prove it to me that I'm wrong, because that's simple logic. Full auto is a more stable rate, so easier to adapt to, and doesn't require you to vibrate one hand, shaking the gun, dividing your attention, and tiring you out.
It's silly to imply the full auto functionality didn't exponentially raise the number both wounded and killed. Without the crowd, it might have made less difference. With the crowd, absolutely not imo.

The greatest piece of filmmaking you'll see this week

chingalera says...

Yeah, saw this and was very, very impressed-Great finale to the episode and this is a very well-acted show with the chemistry between M and H-Have to watch it again now knowing and remembering why this scene was so tight...
Setting up that shot must have been incredible-

Another one that comes to mind was Snake Eyes (1998)
Director: Brian De Palma
Steadicam operator Larry McConkey's 12.5 minute opening steady-cam shot is pretty incredible-An otherwise mediocre film but one of my favorites-Watched the long shot again and and the set-ups pretty insane...
http://vimeo.com/3235512

Baby trashes bar in Las Palmas

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Baby trashes bar in Las Palmas

Baby trashes bar in Las Palmas

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Frankie goes to Hollywood - Relax (alternative Version)

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Mafia Weekend - DeNiro as Capone

QRUEL's latest oeuvre: 'The Evil Inside'. Sift's got talent!

Sarzy says...

Wow! Very nicely done, qruel. I loved the slow building of tension, and the use of the zoom (very few directors know/care how to make good use of the zoom lens these days). I can definitely see the De Palma influence (in fact, you're doing De Palma better than De Palma is doing De Palma these days . I also really liked the long POV shot. Good stuff, qruel.

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qruel says...

since you'all are talking about suspense/horror flicks... I thought I'd share a few that I was involved in and see what you'all think (be gentle:-)

The Evil Inside - (inspired by Audition & Brian De Palma)
http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=4333376

Hindsight
http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=4333855

In reply to this comment by smibbo:
holy cow i forgot the movie i saw at midnight showing every time it came around... the first movie I ever bought shwag for (T-shirt and poster) the first movie I owned the sundtrack to...

Eraserhead

holy smokes I loved that movie...



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