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bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Projection will get you nowhere….loser. Your denial of a fact is a form of verification.

Again, every word I wrote is a verified fact, you can’t dispute a single fact so you just say “nuh-uh” like an idiot toddler told its bedtime.

Trump lost another delay, 3 in 3 days…Trump complains that his properties are worth 100 times what he pays taxes on…Trump’s CEO is BACK in prison for lying under oath for Trump, again…catch and killing news stories is exactly what he claims happened with Hunter’s (Russian fake) laptop and is what he did himself repeatedly and admittedly at this point…Trump is a well known speed addict and has been for decades, he takes it in pill form, this explains the constant 3am insane tweets….Trump’s whitehouse handed out more scheduled narcotics than every whitehouse in history combined…Trump’s fake bond has been rejected and if he can’t come up with another by Monday properties start going away.

Every word a fact.

Exactly what do you dispute?
Be specific. (Again, like the toddler you are, I understand you are incapable of making a cogent argument and will not respond, because I know you don’t have anything to say besides whining.)

Considering the plethora of baseless fact free insanity you have spewed from your fecant maw, having you say I don’t know shit is a compliment…you, sir, do know shit, and only shit…you know it so well you have completely replaced your brains with it.

And once again, I’m not Christ…if I was you would be in deep trouble.

Since you deny every fact I point out, here’s a few for you to look up….Google Kentucky Republican candidate Brian Ormes for yourself….more MAGA family values on display…notice the party has not asked him to drop out and stands with him saying he needs due process before they decide what happened despite the fact that his violent attack on a child and strangling the poor terrified kid in public leaving lasting marks on his neck was not only caught on security camera he also admitted it to police.

Then google Tennessee State Representative Gino Bulso who wants to make it legal to marry your first cousin.

Then google Jonathan Stone, Trump New Hampshire campaign head, child rapist, and disgraced cop who threatened to murder his workmates and rape the chief’s wife in front of him before murdering them both when he was reprimanded for having a 16 year old high school “girlfriend”.

Fun…Trump Media is being sued by its former CEO who claims his files were hacked and stolen by the new CEO in an illicit effort to oust the original CEO…all while the stock remains in freefall. At this rate by the time Trump can sell his stock it will be worth a negative amount. Already lost over half! A Typical Trump investment opportunity.

At the same time, Trump’s legal team is subpoenaing the wrong people, never thinking there might be two Mr Rosenberg in New York…and didn’t know for months because they’re so incompetent they put a disconnected phone number on the form so Mr Rosenberg couldn’t even tell them they got the wrong person, so he just wrote the court that he has no documents for them….they didn’t understand and complained he was stonewalling. The trial starts Monday, they haven’t subpoenaed their witnesses yet!

Sorry I’m spewing coherent facts, I know how that upsets you, but maybe one day you’ll join us in reality where a racist misogynistic delusional rapist and lifelong hypocritical fraud with dementia isn’t America’s best.

bobknight33 said:

Just quit posting your stupid slanted facts.

Christ you dont know shit
You just spew in coherent slanted 1/2 truths

Grow up and learn reality

This doesn’t make ANY SENSE!

newtboy jokingly says...

Do you really want me to cousin Vinny it? I can. HINT- There’s a reason he holds it so unnaturally.

Edit- all right…the plastic piece slides sideways by his thumb exactly one hole width…so the ribbon goes back through the same hole in the plastic but the next hole in the wood.

ant said:

*wtf

Eminem Responds To Rudy Giuliani

newtboy says...

Shameless self *promote in celebration of the $148 MILLION judgement Ruby Freeman and Shay Moss were just awarded by a jury for Rudy’s dangerous lies about them. Half the award, $75 million is punitive damages which he can’t escape with a bankruptcy!
Bye you cousin fucking loser! Enjoy dying in the poor house in disgrace.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Oh fuck! Read the disgusting, abusive, horrific, misogynistic, human trafficking statements from the transcripts of the tapes of Giuliani abusing his assistant. You’ll have to look beyond blaze tv or catturd, but it’s easy to find the transcripts.
Here’s a taste…
https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=ytr7RaBw4twotNGaCSA9HQ==

Yep, she recorded him abusing her in the most vile, disgusting, debaucherous manner. 😂

Then he told her to lie to the fbi and say she didn’t know him, and refused to pay her the $1 million salary she had been promised.

Calling her “big tits, come here big tits, I own those tits, those are my big tits, I want to claim my tits, I want to claim my tits, I want to claim my tits (yes, he said it 3 times in a row), I own you, you are my slave, my bitch, my whore, my fucking slut. I need some time alone with my daughter. My little girl. I want to own you, officially. Legally, with a document,” Forced her to work naked or in bikinis, forced her to perform oral sex and intercourse while he made phone calls so he could feel like Clinton. And there’s more. 😂

And never forget he knowingly married his cousin.

Party of debauchery….all of you. 😂
Proven again daily. 😂
Sex slavery, incest, kiddy porn and child rape, abuse, and rape under every stone and around every corner. From every official. All of MAGA is a child rape cult….I think you know it. 😂

Trump to be arrested

kir_mokum says...

fox news: "we relentlessly lie for ratings because our audience are idiot, cousin fucking terrorists"

bobknight: "this is a great source of information"

Color video of Albert Einstein actually explaining E=mc2

luxintenebris says...

well...i'd say 1/2 m is an 'n'; v2 was a rocket; and K.E. is my cousin's initials...if that helps?

newtboy said:

Hmmmm….
K.E. = 1/2 m v2
E = m v2 (only when v=c)
Does equation 2 include equation 1 or not?
Does total system energy E = 1.5m v2 (kinetic energy + mass-energy) or is the equation really E = 1/2m c2 + (K.E.)?

Anybody?

Let's talk about Republican reaction to the SCOTUS leak....

newtboy says...

You don’t need to be a lawyer to know that if you lie or intentionally mislead under oath, even to congress, it’s perjury.
You also don’t need to be a lawyer to know that 99.9% of undeniably proven perjury isn’t prosecuted.
I’m not a lawyer, but I grew up surrounded by lawyers and judges in the immediate family. Grandfather, uncle, and 3 cousins were lawyers, 2 of them judges….all Republicans btw. I’m no stranger to the law, thanks.
Trump lied on every question he answered under oath and nothing….but justices are SUPPOSED to be above reproach, no longer true.


(Edit; it bears noting, the petitioners claimed “ The legislature (not scientists or doctors) then found that at five or six weeks’ gestational age an unborn human beings heart begins beating“. But reality and science say “ the heart has four clearly defined chambers in the eighth week of pregnancy, but does not have fully organized muscle tissue until the 20th week” meaning it’s not a heart until 20 weeks in, so can’t possibly be a heart beating 14 weeks before there’s a heart…it’s a muscle cluster pulse, not a heartbeat anymore than a spark plug test firing is a running car.)

Did every justice in that 1954 Supreme Court say in their confirmation hearings under oath that Plessy was settled, reaffirmed precedent they respected? Was Plessy repeatedly challenged and upheld by multiple supreme courts? If not, I call red herring.

Your intentional pedantry is tiresome and uninteresting. Enjoy your beliefs. Bye Felicia.

dogboy49 said:

Your opinion about perjury duly noted. I assume that you are a lawyer, and know exactly what you are talking about. Since all of their testimony is public record, shall I expect to see the appropriate prosecutor convening a grand jury to address this crime?

Your other opinion as to "how it works" is also duly noted. I guess SCOTUS should not have overruled Plessy vs Ferguson (decided in 1896) when they heard Brown vs Board of Education (1954).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separate_but_equal

STUDY: $500 Per Month Life Changing For The Homeless

newtboy says...

Ok. I admit that’s unnecessary and confusing.

A bit more than a rewording, a complete overhaul from the current American system. Never expect us to be reasonable or simple in our plans like our northern cousins can be.

I agree, without a means test, income limits for participation, assistance programs can’t be funded enough to actually help the needy and hand out the same amount to the well off. Those plans are nuts IMO.

I understand your issue with UBI. I support it in the sense of a safety net, no one should be forced to live on less than $X and IMO there should be no requirement besides no/low income….but to function that requires those who already make over $X to get nothing and just be happy they won’t be mugged for food money. I don’t support the “here’s a free $500 for everybody”, inflation would make it meaningless in a year, more circulating dollars with no more in the treasury/total value = inflation on top of your valid points.

bcglorf said:

Yeah, the crutch of it for me is the UBI moniker.

What you describe at the end of your post, minimum income, is really just a rewording of the existing social security and welfare systems across the western world. I know they look different in each, but here in Canada what you describe is more or less our already existing system's design goal. Welfare money exists for those that straight up can not work, and an employment insurance system exists to protect those inbetween jobs, meanwhile other multiple programs are aimed at distributing financial assistance to the lower income groups.

Despite all of that already existing, UBI is still being heralded up here in trials as well as a replacement. The problem being that for the needy the UBI pitches are generally a step backwards.

Eg. $500/month is the UBI pitch, and they say it'll be great because everyone gets it no matter what so it's simple and fair and nobody is left behind. The trouble though is that the reality is the truly in need people were already benefitting more than the $500/month under the existing systems, and the cost was much less because it was targeted.

I here UBI and get very worried about folks just selling snake oil 'solutions' that in the end are just a demand to adopt their own particular flavor of wealth redistribution.

joe scarborough on wednesday jan 6 2021 maga riot

newtboy says...

I think if they tried to legally leave the union, we should let them. It would save trillions in welfare and other federal funding that comes from places like New York and California and is redistributed to the southern states that never pay as much in taxes as they take.
I would like to see all American assets pulled like military and federal properties sold to those states at current market value, then let them try being a nation. It would be like divorcing cousin Eddie, a clear win for America.

If they get their way Texans better learn Spanish, Mexico wants their land back and without the army to stop them, they’ll get it. The rest should learn Mandarin.

BSR said:

"The South Shall Rise Again!"

Still not doing it right. 🤪

newtboy (Member Profile)

Kentucky Man Cleans Snow Off Driveway With Flamethrower

Borat 2 - The Rudy Interview

newtboy says...

Nobody made Giuliani flirt with the young woman, no one made him touch her repeatedly, no one made him go to the bedroom with her for "drinks", and no one made him marry his own cousin!
No one made him sit for a Borat interview either.
Giuliani created the Giuliani controversy. Duh Dmitry. Such desperation lately. Хуй тебе́!

bobknight33 said:

How Borat FABRICATED Giuliani Controversy

Meanwhile In Alabama...

Joe Biden, You Are Lying, Sold out Americans

newtboy says...

Bwaaahahahaha!
This stupid hoax has failed miserably, but another succeeded brilliantly.....and it was fucking Borat!!!

You want to trot out some faked files from random computers to try smear Biden...and are outraged that no one believes it (maybe shouldn't have destroyed your credibility by lying constantly)....but Borat comes out tomorrow where we will all see Guliani flirt with someone introduced as a 15 year old, go alone with her to her room for drinks, ask for her phone number and home address, grab her ass repeatedly, flirting shamelessly the whole time, then lie down and start touching himself in front of her only to be stopped by Borat who barges in and tells Giuliani to stop, she's too old for him....he admits it all happened but claims he was just tucking in his shirt (just ignore all the flirting and invitations for private meetings, the groping, the lying down on the bed, the movements in his pants, and the embarrassment when he was caught).

More real pedophilia in Trump's inner circle. First, decades of picking up YOUNG girls with his best friend Epstein, then he intentionally chose a well known incestuous lawyer.
Now he's also proven to be another pedophile too, not with fake Russian photo shop, but professional multi camera video. Streaming tomorrow. Enjoy!

Republicans, the party of pedophiles and incest (let's not forget Giuliani also married his young cousin).

bobknight33 said:

Funny his crack head son's laptop will be the family downfall

Least not to mention picts of Hunter having sex with underage girls.

Democrats, the party of debauchery.

eoe (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Moved this to profile pages, better late than never.

I'll try to be brief....and fail miserably I expect.
I accept the fact that some theories I hold will be wrong, and cause failure. At least theories can be tested and discarded when proven false. Yes, some are so engrained it would take TNT to dislodge them, but they aren't unchangeable, beliefs are immutable.

No morality in that claim. Moral excuses might be 1) I minimize any suffering by buying mostly family farmed meats and 2) those lives only exist for human pleasure and substance. If no one ate cows and pigs, they would be extinct nuisance animals. (And chickens rare) If the animal has a nice, pain and stress free life, but in trade that life ends early, as long as the end is humane I'm not bothered. That's life it otherwise wouldn't enjoy at all.
Factory farms don't meet those requirements.
They're tasty is why I eat meat. It might be snide, but it's honest. Yes, I'm obstinate, I like meat, I'm not claiming it the most moral, ethical, ecological, or empathetic thing to do, but if done thoughtfully it's not the worst either.

My meaning with "it's not the worst t thing people do" was to reply to " I believe (assuming humans survive) humans will look upon this time of killing billions of animals for nothing but human pleasure with disgusting disgrace." with a few other examples of things worse that we will be judged for, not to distract or excuse. I'm not sure how that's a logical falicy. Tens of Billions of animals are killed horrifically for pure greed and not even used as food, that's a disgusting disgrace I could denounce.

I read the WHO study he was referencing and it said no such thing, I told him, showed him, he kept repeating the bullshit lies. I'm not receptive to people who blatantly misrepresent science. I don't rely on any industry produced studies for any decisions, that would be dumb. The study said certain highly processed and preserved red meats had some carcinogens, not any meat at any level is equivalent to two packs a day. My degree is general science, I can read a study.

Oh shit, nutritionfacts.org is Dr Gregor, the one who outright lies about scientific studies, and the one who made the false equivalency between tiny amounts of meat and constant chain smoking, he also loved to misuse "plant based" to mean vegan and claim the studies on plant based (not plant exclusive) diets proved vegan benefits when they really proved a mixed diets benefits. I've been deep down his rabbit hole, and found him incredibly unscientific and dishonest. I don't trust him one bit, sorry.

I've only known a hand full, including the one who introduced me to Dr Gregor, my aunt, uncle, and cousins, and a few here in hippy central where I live. Not one was honest, they acted like it was religion and took statements as gospel with no investigation and were forceful in their insistence that everyone agree.

I once ate fish and thought it was fine. Three years of marine biology cured me of that, so my theories are changed by facts. I promised myself to never learn too much about chicken, pork, or beef because I don't want to know what's in them unless it's broken glass. That's a conscious decision. There is no hell hot enough to scare me away from good bacon. That said, I do care that they have a good life before being harvested.

I'm willing to change behavior and thinking. I previously thought the fda was good at protecting us, I decided I couldn't trust that.

I make some decisions based on MY morality, some on self interest, some on group/global interest, etc. I'm not willing to make any based on someone else's morality, especially if they're pushy.

I have no clue who visits, but this is where I come, so it's where I speak up.

I always make the mistake of thinking people will be logical.

eoe said:

Woo boy, this is a doozy! The fact of the matter is a video comment section is not the place to have this conversation. There's too much to discuss, too many questions from one another that are best asked soon after they're conceived, etc. I frankly just don't have the time to respond to everything you said. Don't take this as acquiescence; if you'd like to have a Zoom chat some time, I'd be down.

In any event, I'll respond to what I find either the most important or at least most interesting:

Having theories is definitely the best way to go about most of the things you consider fact (for the moment), but the fact of the matter (no pun intended) is that at some point you'll need to use some of those claims as fact/belief in order to take action. And it's just human nature to, if one believes in a claim for long enough, it becomes fact, despite all your suggestions of objectivity. It's easy to say you're a scientist through and through, but if you're really someone who doesn't believe anything and merely theorize things, I think you'd be a sad human being. But that's a claim that I leave up to the scientists.

> Yes, and I eat animals because they're delicious.

You think that's a defensible moral claim? I find that disgraceful. If you truly think your own pleasure is worth sentient beings' lives then... I don't know what to say to you. That strikes me as callous and unempathetic, 2 traits you often assert as shameful. This is my point. You sound pretty obstinate to at least a reasonable claim. To respond with just "they're tasty". You don't sound reasonable to me.

> You may be correct, but eating meat is hardly the worst thing humans are up to.

Aw, come on @newtboy, I thought better of you than to give me a logical fallacy. The fact that you're resorting to logical fallacies wwould indicate to me that either you're confronting some cognitive dissonance, otherwise why would you stoop to such a weak statement?

> I gladly discuss vegetarianism with honest people, but I'm prepared when they start spouting bullshit like " eating any red meat is more harmful than smoking two packs a day of filterless cigarettes" ...

There is a lot of scientific research (not funded by Big ___) that is currently spouting this "bullshit". What happened to your receptive, scientific, theory-based lifestyle? It's true nutrition science is a fucking smog-filled night mare considering how much money is at stake, but I find it telling that a lot of the corporations are using the same ad men from Big Cigarette to stir up constant doubt.

Again, I find it peculiar that you are highly suspicious of big corporations... except when it comes to something that you want to be true.

Again, this is my point. Take a moment, take a few breaths, and look inside. Can you notice that you're acting in the exact same fashion as the people you purport to be obscenely stubborn?

Check out NutritionFacts if you want to see any of the science. Actual science. I would hope that it would give you at least somedoubt and curiosity.

That's a true scientist's homeostatic state: curiosity. Are you curious to investigate the dozens (hundreds?) of papers with a truly non-confirmation-biased mind? How much of a scientist are you?

> I've never met a vegan that wasn't a bold faced liar in support of veganism, so I'm less likely to give them a full chance at convincing me.

This, for me, raises all sorts of red flags. That's quite a sweeping claim.

> Again, that would be long held theories in my case, and it's not hard to change them. Mad cow disease got me to change until I was certain it wasn't in America. No, I'm not recoiling. I'll listen to anyone who's respectful and honest.

So, you're willing to make decisions based on self-interest and not morality? Well, duh. Everyone does that. It doesn't sound like you had a self-reflective moment. It sounds like you merely had a self-interested decision based on the risk to your own health.

And finally, all your talk about Bob -- of course he acts, consistently, like a twat. I just don't like feeding trolls. I don't think there's anyone on Videosift who's on the precipice and would be pushed over into the Alt-right Pit by Bob's ridiculous nonsense.

> Edit: in general I agree that dispassionate fact based replies with references are better at convincing people than derision, there are exceptions, and there are those who are unconvinceable and disinterested in facts that don't support their lies.

Ironically, I think science has disproved this. Facts don't change minds in situations like this. There are lots of articles on this. I didn't have the wherewithal to dig into their citations, but I leave that (non-confirmation-biased) adventure for you. [1]

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I knew I wouldn't make this short, but I think it's shorter than it could have been.

Lastly, I'm with @BSR; I do appreciate your perseverance. Not everyone has as much as you seem to have! Whenever I see Bob... doing his thing, I can always be assured you'll take most of the words from my mouth. [2]

[1]
Why Facts Don’t Change Our Minds | The New Yorker
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/02/27/why-facts-dont-change-our-minds

This Article Won’t Change Your Mind - The Atlantic
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/03/this-article-wont-change-your-mind/519093/

Why People Ignore Facts | Psychology Today
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/words-matter/201810/why-people-ignore-facts

Why Many People Stubbornly Refuse to Change Their Minds | Psychology Today
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/think-well/201812/why-many-people-stubbornly-refuse-change-their-minds

Why Facts Don't Always Change Minds | Hidden Brain : NPR
https://www.npr.org/transcripts/743195213

[2] This comment has not been edited nor checked for spelling and grammatical errors. Haven't you got enough from me?



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