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Oakland CA Is So Scary Even Cops Want Nothing To Do With It

Trancecoach says...

Fast. The US is highly militarized. And its military/police are much better funded than in Mexico.

"a mob of random untrained angry armed strangers"

If they are my friends and neighbors, I would not call them a mob (I don't know how you view your friends but I don't see my friends like this) and I would trust them more than the police. So did the American Revolutionaries. They trusted their fellow colonists more than the "well regulated and trained" British Army. But even then, many trusted the establishment, the Red Coats.

And who are you even talking about? Because, to each other, they are not "random strangers." The police are the "random strangers!" For most people, anyway.

This scene comes to mind.
Like Corleone implies, it's good to know where your loyalties lie. And that of those who engage with you.

"I will trust the police. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. (and make no mistake, I don't trust the police much at all) That's just me."

Yep, that's just you, and some others, for sure. So what?

"I don't know about you"

Now you know.

And like I said: Good luck with that. I wish you the best and that you never have to 'rely' on the police to 'protect' you.

newtboy said:

How fast do you think the army/national guard would be involved if that happened in the USA? That said, if things were as bad in Oakland as they were in Mexico, I might change my stance. I don't think they're anywhere near that bad, they're just not good
I don't know about you, but between a well regulated and trained police force (ours needs better regulating and training, agreed) and a mob of random untrained angry armed strangers, I will trust the police. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. (and make no mistake, I don't trust the police much at all) That's just me.

What do the Godfather and Henry IV have in common?

Glenn Beck, 6/10/10: "Shoot Them In The Head"

quantumushroom says...

The left is shocked---SHOCKED I TELLS YA----about any suggestions of media-promoted VIOLENCE!

To wit:


A new low in Bush-hatred

by Jeff Jacoby
The Boston Globe
September 10, 2006

SIX YEARS into the Bush administration, are there any new depths to which the Bush-haters can sink?

George W. Bush has been smeared by the left with every insult imaginable. He has been called a segregationist who yearns to revive Jim Crow and compared ad nauseam to Adolf Hitler. His detractors have accused him of being financially entwined with Osama bin Laden. Of presiding over an American gulag. Of being a latter-day Mussolini. Howard Dean has proffered the "interesting theory" that the Saudis tipped off Bush in advance about 9/11. One US senator (Ted Kennedy) has called the war in Iraq a "fraud" that Bush "cooked up in Texas" for political gain; another (Vermont independent James Jeffords) has charged him with planning a war in Iran as a strategy to put his brother in the White House. Cindy Sheehan has called him a "lying bastard," a "filth spewer," an "evil maniac," a "fuehrer," and a "terrorist" guilty of "blatant genocide" -- and been rewarded for her invective with oceans of media attention.

What's left for them to say about Bush? That they want him killed?

They already say it.


On Air America Radio, talk show host Randi Rhodes recommended doing to Bush what Michael Corleone, in "The Godfather, Part II," does to his brother. "Like Fredo," she said, "somebody ought to take him out fishing and phuw!" -- then she imitated the sound of a gunshot. In the Guardian, a leading British daily, columnist Charlie Brooker issued a plea: "John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinckley Jr. -- where are you now that we need you?"

For the more literary Bush-hater, there is "Checkpoint," a novel by Nicholson Baker in which two characters discuss the wisdom of shooting the 43rd president. "I'm going to kill that bastard," one character fumes. Some Bush-hatred masquerades as art: At Chicago's Columbia College, a curated exhibit included a sheet of mock postage stamps bearing the words "Patriot Act" and depicting President Bush with a gun to his head. There are even Bush-assassination fashion statements, such as the "KILL BUSH" T-shirts that were on offer last year at CafePress, an online retailer.

Lurid political libels have a long history in American life. The lies told about John Adams in the campaign of 1800 were vile enough, his wife Abigail lamented, "to ruin and corrupt the minds and morals of the best people in the world." But has there ever been a president so hated by his enemies that they lusted openly for his death? Or tried to gratify that lust with such political pornography?

As with other kinds of porn, even the most graphic expressions of Bush-hatred tend to jade those who gorge on it, so that they crave ever more explicit material to achieve the same effect.

Which brings us to "Death of a President," a new movie about the assassination of George W. Bush.

Written and directed by British filmmaker Gabriel Range, the movie premieres this week at the Toronto Film Festival and will air next month on Britain's Channel 4. Shot in the style of a documentary, it opens with what looks like actual footage of Bush being gunned down by a sniper as he leaves a Chicago hotel in October 2007. Through the use of digital special effects, the film superimposes the president's face onto the body of the actor playing him, so that the mortally wounded man collapsing on the screen will seem, all too vividly, to be Bush himself.

This is Bush-hatred as a snuff film. The fantasies it feeds are grotesque and obscene; to pander to such fantasies is to rip at boundary-markers that are indispensable to civilized society. That such a movie could not only be made but lionized at an international film festival is a mark not of sophistication, but of a sickness in modern life that should alarm conservatives and liberals alike.

Naturally that's not how the film's promoters see it. Noah Cowan, one of the Toronto festival's co-directors, high-mindedly describes "Death of a President" as "a classic cautionary tale." Well, yes, he says, Bush's assassination is "harrowing," but what the film is really about is "how the Patriot Act, especially, and how Bush's divisive partisanship and race-baiting has forever altered America."

I can't help wondering, though, whether some of those who see this film will take away rather a different message. John Hinckley, in his derangement, had the idea that shooting the president was the way to impress a movie star. After seeing "Death of a President," the next Hinckley may be taken with a more grandiose idea: that shooting the president is the way to become a movie star.

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Who's the better actor? (User Poll by Throbbin)

fford says...

>> ^rottenseed:
Every actor on this list except for De Niro has played the same character every movie they've been in.


You tell the angels in internet heaven you've never seen pwned so singularly personified as in the comments that sent you there. Are you completely fucking stupid?

Pacino: Corleone, Serpico, Sonny, Roma, Lefty, Lowell, Shylock.
Eastwood: Harry, Preacher, Gunny, Frank, Everett, Dunn.

Pacino wins, because he's the only one of them that makes me forget the actor and only see the character.

"Incomplete Submission" [OMG THE SIFT HAS FIXED BY JESUS!!] (Sift Talk Post)

The Godfather - Baptism and Murder

The Godfather - Baptism and Murder

PBS: Bugsy Siegel and the Mob arrive in Las Vegas

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Which Soulja came first? Admin? (Sift Talk Post)

MrFisk says...

Good question. I'd like to know the answer to that as well. I'd bet money mine was first. Although, I believe the other has subtitles. I left a comment on the other quoting Fredo Corleone, with the implication I'd been passed over. Get it? Anyways, whoever was first should get the others upvotes. Oh, and for the record, I thought this was awful and in hindsight I should have posted and downvoted it myself. It's supposed to have occurred in Atlanta. Drudge report had it up for about 30 minutes before it vanished.

Audi Will Make You an Offer You Can't Refuse

lucky760 says...

Moe Green was shot in the eye at the end of The Godfather during the baptism where Michael Corleone was renouncing Satan, not part 2. In part 2 there was only one reference to Moe Green and that was by Hyman Roth in a Cuba hotel room when Michael asked him who killed Pantangelli (who, incidentally, survived that attempt on his life by the Rizotto brothers who were working with Hyman Roth).

Interestingly enough, though, for the flashbacks in part 2 with a young Vito Corleone (played by Robert DeNiro) there were scenes shot with a young Hyman Roth and Moe Green, but they were left on the cutting room floor.

Corleone Pays For His Sins: The Ending to The Godfather III

Sarzy says...

This is an amazing scene, but it loses some of its lustre because Sofia Coppola is so epically horrible as Mary Corleone, you can't help but feel a bit of relief when she dies (because you won't have to see her attempt to act any more). I think she's an amazing director, but I just wish she had discovered that before she ruined the Godfather III.

jonny (Member Profile)

Alberto Gonzales: Lying Liar Mashup

plastiquemonkey says...

he's not "fredo", he's frank pentangeli. :

SENATOR KANE
Mr. Pentangeli, you are contradicting your confessions to our investigators; I ask you again, were you a member of a crime organization headed by Michael Corleone?

PENTANGELI
No. I never heard of it. I never heard of nothing like that. I was in the olive oil business with his father a long time ago. That's all.

SENATOR KANE
We have your confession that you murdered on the orders of Michael Corleone. Do you deny that confession and do you know what denying that confession will mean to you?

PENTANGELI
The FBI guys promised me a deal. So I made up a lot of stuff about Michael Corleone. Because then, that's what they wanted. But it was all lies. Everything. They said Michael Corleone did this, Michael Corleone did that. So I said, "Yeah, sure."

He makes a big grin to show how he has made fools of everybody.



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