Had to share this one on FB: "...even the so called "rabid atheists" (Dawkins et al) of the present day simply aren't comparable. The lunatic fringe of religion is well documented (WBC, al Qaeda, etc) as is the harm caused by even mainstream religion (ban on condoms, hiding pedophiles).

There simply isn't anything comparable from even the most evangelical of the new atheists. Even dickheads like Pat Condell are small potatoes compared to the other side.

The reason why atheism is unique over other belief systems is because it isn't one. There is no atheist tract or creed that must be upheld. There are simply people who reject attempts by others to force them to comply with their particular belief set.

Now, if an atheist terror group appears tomorrow and starts bombing churches or even if an atheist political party* demanded the outlawing of religion, I would condemn them, but that hasn't happened.

Put simply, I've never had an atheist knock on my door and say "have you heard the word of Dawkins?"

*what would that even look like, given that atheism has no political affiliation?" ...because I enjoyed it that much. Thanks C.

It's not so much that dangerous fundamentalist atheism is impossible. As you said, Stalin and Mao proved otherwise, although an argument could be made that their zealotry was politically based, but I digress.

It's more that even the so called "rabid atheists" (Dawkins et al) of the present day simply aren't comparable. The lunatic fringe of religion is well documented (WBC, al Qaeda, etc) as is the harm caused by even mainstream religion (ban on condoms, hiding pedophiles).

There simply isn't anything comparable from even the most evangelical of the new atheists. Even dickheads like Pat Condell are small potatoes compared to the other side.

The reason why atheism is unique over other belief systems is because it isn't one. There is no atheist tract or creed that must be upheld. There are simply people who reject attempts by others to force them to comply with their particular belief set.

Now, if an atheist terror group appears tomorrow and starts bombing churches or even if an atheist political party* demanded the outlawing of religion, I would condemn them, but that hasn't happened.

Put simply, I've never had an atheist knock on my door and say "have you heard the word of Dawkins?"

*what would that even look like, given that atheism has no political affiliation?

Ugh, Pat Condell.

This guy's not interesting, insightful or funny. He happens to be right some of the time, but that more by coincidence than anything else. He's really just a dickhead.

For the 1st country in the Arabian peninsula to afford women the right to vote, member of the United Nations, blah blah blah, 2013 and these Shia-stone-age cunts fuck their own children-....Throwbacks kept in the dark and fed shit instead of knowledge. Thank you, Islam.

Forget the uncle, this girl should go and live with Pat Condell!

Damn Buck, that just about covers it-I'm Pat Condell, and I'd like to buy you a few pints and some virgins!

Srsly, what you hate about Islam and Muslims-at-large lies in the root developmental-disability: Something so hard-wired into a culture it would take several generations to correct or, as I have mentioned before, a collective world-wide experience that flips the paradigm on it's head.

An alien invasion or worldwide catastrophe would go a long way towards sobering us monkeys the fuck, RIGHT up! (world shakes fist at sky with one tongue, "Fuuuuck yewwwwwww, Gaaaaawd!")


Besides Buck and myself, I wonder how many people's first reaction when they heard what this guy had to spew was to want to take one of those sticks to his mealy, little mouth???

The gawking and do-nothing actions of bystanders....This shit would never happen here in the states, and especially not here in Texas-And who in the FUCK, besides an out-of-touch voyeur piece of shit, films this cunt after such an episode. Answer: A Programmed Briton

Bet if Pat Condell had been there things may have gone a bit differently....

Personally, I would have procured a piece of pipe and commenced to beating this out-of-touch thug senseless until the "constabulary" arrived. Problem is, the CO19 Force Firearms Unit would probably kill me for having done so, or place me on some undesirables list until I was finally out of the general population. Fuck all, Britains' turned to a complete shit hole and you have the absence of firearms in the hands of her citizenry and the cunts who made it so to blame.

>> ^A10anis:

Atheists cannot, even in a jocular fashion, be remotely compared to any cults like those of Koresh or Jones, they are the very opposite. In fact, atheists have no agenda other than freedom from the shackles of dark age myths. They do not want to have to confront religions/cults but have no choice when, daily, the destructive nature of them blight so many lives. If a "believer" wants to be a slave to some god and/or preacher, that's fine, they can do so in private. But they must keep their poisonous, controlling, brainwashing, tenets, out of our schools and government.


I believe the gray bloke is being snarky and referential, namely referring to the misogyny of the second two "preachers" and their hordes of MRA-holes (one would need to be up to date on the FtB/Reddit affairs). Condell must be in there for his perceived xenophobia.

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Thanks, Gundam. It helps to hear that sometimes!

>> ^SDGundamX:

>> ^draak13:
Why is this getting upvoted?
To condemn the entire religion is extremely juvenile; the majority of the people in this religion are not the extremists who are rioting in the streets.
Instead of condemning entire religions, it'd be much more accurate to condemn religious fundamentalism or extremism. The majority of muslim people condemn these violent actions.

You've been registered since 2007, so surely you must know that there exists a segment of Sifters who are hardened Islamophobes (though they hate being called that). You'll find lots of Condel's videos (and other anti-Islam videos as well) have been Sifted. I used to comment on them about the absurdity of condemning a religion (which, like Christianity, has numerous different sects and faction and is practiced by people with widely differing cultural and educational backgrounds, not to mention political motivations) based on the actions of some of its members but I mostly got shouted down as a "cultural apologist/relativist."
I will say that the frequency with which these types of videos get submitted and Sifted has decreased over the years, which seems to indicate that other Sifters got as sick of the rhetoric as I was.

>> ^draak13:

Why is this getting upvoted?
To condemn the entire religion is extremely juvenile; the majority of the people in this religion are not the extremists who are rioting in the streets.
Instead of condemning entire religions, it'd be much more accurate to condemn religious fundamentalism or extremism. The majority of muslim people condemn these violent actions.


You've been registered since 2007, so surely you must know that there exists a segment of Sifters who are hardened Islamophobes (though they hate being called that). You'll find lots of Condel's videos (and other anti-Islam videos as well) have been Sifted. I used to comment on them about the absurdity of condemning a religion (which, like Christianity, has numerous different sects and faction and is practiced by people with widely differing cultural and educational backgrounds, not to mention political motivations) based on the actions of some of its members but I mostly got shouted down as a "cultural apologist/relativist."

I will say that the frequency with which these types of videos get submitted and Sifted has decreased over the years, which seems to indicate that other Sifters got as sick of the rhetoric as I was.

Pat Condell downvoted this video.

no offense taken. true, pat condell has some weird views I completely disagree with but ... the message of this video cannot be ignored: religion fucks up everything if people let it and sharia law is fucking retarded

nice....
so to anybody who sees the palestinian/isreali situation different from pat condell... you are an idiot.
his crtiticsim of the untied nations and other islamic countries aside,might i suggest mr condell read a book and not base his assumptions on his hatred of islam.

because this rant was chock full of ignorance.
here is a phrase mr condell should look up:balfour declaration (amended sept 11th 1921).
maybe he should start from there.

i usually enjoy his rants but sometimes he does tend to wade in to tin foil waters.

Condell is usually a staggeringly stubborn and biased blowhard, but in this video, I think he's mostly just a staggeringly stubborn blowhard. I hear little exaggeration in what he's saying about the UNHRC. It's a complete farce, with the worst behaved kids in the daycare deciding together that the red-headed kid always needs a time-out and they never do. Even UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon has said so.>> ^kir_mokum:

i've never been a big fan but this seem really dumb.

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